Spiral Knights - DA and GF in lockdown

DA and GF in lockdown

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Thu, 09/15/2011 - 21:35

Tomori

Way to overpowering.

I'm sorry but 1 hit killing someone isnt skill....its just plain stupid and makes lower players just hate it more.
Remove the ability to 1 hit kill people make swords do set damage to player and make guns do set damage.

Is there need to make everything power heavy?

BTW I really dont care what people have to say about how unfair it would be to take this away.
Frankly if thats the case make all weapons 1 hit kill not just just a few.

Even with 5* eq your still dead 1 hit. This isnt skill this isnt fun. Its pointless and should be fixed.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 21:40

Psychorazer

ah..

do you think it's because they were wearing striker? That lowers your defence, and wearers have sword+ damage.

I haven't encountered this problem yet

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 21:53

marles

Legacy Username

I haven't had a proble

I haven't had a proble either. I normally pick striker (lowered health) and still can survive the first hit. If they lowered the damage of GF and DA that would cause it to be imbalanced if you had either of those weapons because they only swing twice and are slow. If you're having problems with dodging, that's not a problem of the sword that's a problem with your gameplay.

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 05:52

Extred

1 Hit kill?

with My Skolver set I can survive the 1st hit of a GF or DA, but I don't see the point of nerfing them. It's true that I can 1 hit kill people in 4* armors because I have MAX sword damage with striker but heck, I seen people with 2-3* gears in t3 lockdown, I mean why bother joining t3 lockdown when you only have gears like that? In t3 Lockdown, only guardians are suppose to survive some hits(with the shield up, but when shield is down 2 hit KO). You are not suppose to guard all day or survive like a tank, you are suppose to dodge attacks.

By the way, its not only DA and GF have high damage, if you use Glacius/combuster/Archereon/Fang of Vog on a 4* armored knight, they basically die in like 2 hits. Callahan/polaris/sentenza can do quite large damage as well provided that you hit the target.

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 08:23

Facejuances

I think the problem is that

I think the problem is that some people (not me!) prefer longer and slower fights instead of the fast action with 2 hit kill combos.

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 12:12

Brownknee

if every sword did the same

if every sword did the same damage, the swords like wild hunting blades and dread venom strikers would be the new OP b/c of the speed

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 12:47

Uber-Nerd

I think he's saying that each

I think he's saying that each weapon class should do the same damage. Example: heavy swords (DA, GF, Avenger, Faust) should kill in 2 hits, normal speed swords (Acheron, Leviathan, CIV) kill in 3, etc.

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 14:45

Tomori

Well i like Ubernerds idea

Well i like Ubernerds idea thats a good start to even the playing field but I must agree fast action is fun but it is very annoying to die 1-2 hits.

Id like to see each set class striker, scout, guardian get a damage mod that keeps the damage on a more level playing field.

Guardian = tank - 3 hits kill
Scout = midrange - 2 hits kill
Striker = power house - 1 hit kill

something like this not exactly this...if that makes sense lol
Basicly the way it is now those that have money to burn are ruling and I do believe that yes you should get a bonus for your money
but 1-2 hit kills is a bit much compared to someone like myself that doesnt have extra money to toss at the game to make myself
bigger and badder.

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 16:07

Brownknee

its not necessarily ppl that

its not necessarily ppl that have money to burn. not everyone got equips specifically for this, lots had them already for T3 runs and FSC. if u generalize all the weapons and classes, the game loses a bit of its spontaneity. if ur gonna say that the damage is unfair then how about status effects? ppl that have full skolver armor hardly get frozen and stride right through the ice, those without are sitting ducks unless the bomber messes up, leaves, or their knight in shinning armor gallops along and slashes the crap out of the bloke with the shivermist. should they rebalance the armor resistance as well?

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 18:57

Extred

I think its pretty balance right now

@Ubernerd Yup Yup that's what i meant. It pretty balance right now and since people use shock and freeze in lockdown, you cant be immune to both unless u have UVs so I see no point of rebalancing armor.

If you get shock, you are 95% dead. Freeze isn't as bad as shock if you are a guardian but for recon and striker you are stuck there forever or till you are killed.

For the freeze problem I think it is good that if a teammate hits you when you are frozen, the freeze is canceled but currently it still stay frozen.

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 19:35

#10

Rage-Knight

A) 1-hit-killing is possible

A) 1-hit-killing is possible when you have no defense vs element, so grab some shadow defense armor or simply go into a lower tier (tier 2 doesn't have either faust or gran faust, they're both tier 3 weapons).
B) if you are marked to death, RUN AWAY!!! Or die from 1 hit xD

You can make a balanced armor, from several sorts of attack damages. This way you won't die from 1 hit at the very least, but most opponents will hit you 2nd time before you can escape.

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 22:11

#11

Psychorazer

What...

What DOES the Recon death mark do anyway? I haven't figured it out.

Unless it's in the mail I was too lazy to read, due to the 'OMG LOCKDOWN IS HERE MUST PLAY NAO!' thoughts running through my head.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 10:32

#12

darkmaster75

Legacy Username

...

well first of all the recon mark removes all defence from the victim so at that point ur dead from 1 hit of any sword.. Also DA and GF hits do not 1 hit kill unless ur defence sucks (like just piercing def) Charge attacks...yes. Or unless the user has full skolver and damage trinkets, then i could see that possible (but doubt a lot of people have that) I have no problem with the DA and GF users becuse the attack speed makes them vulneralbe to hits after the 2nd swing (well if ur dumb enough to get hit by both then ur dead ny then). My problem is the thorn blade users. They literally get their third hit in before you even know that they raided you by using the completly noobish striker skill. well any sword is overkill with the stiker class. PS: i once got raided by two stikers with DAs...it was a narrow path and they coming from oppsite directions and they hit me at the same time....instakill......
Also dont tell me "well just be a stiker noob urself" well i know its kinda my fault but i suck at swords in lockdown. so i stick with nitronome and silver six and going recon.

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 22:20

#13

Psychorazer

K thanx

Now I kno why I always get pwned by invisible recons. You sneaky assassins you...

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