Spiral Knights - This forum is a one-sided battleground

This forum is a one-sided battleground

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Sat, 10/08/2011 - 12:59

Tersakoff

Or a dramma movie.

It always seems like everybody is attacking OOO for every single update.
Yes, the silver keys are expensive, but they did not design the accs to be something that every noob would run around with. And nor are they forcing you to pay money for them.
Yes, the lag is ruining lockdown. Yet a server change implies more than most of you think.
Yes, some mobs will kill you easily.
Yes, some features are addicting, I am addicted myself to ironbox gambling and have spent all my savings and more just to get more boxes to open.

The general feeling I get from reading this forum is "BLARGH WHY IS THIS GAME SO HARD WHY DOES IT TAKE SO LONG WHY DID THAT KILL ME QQ BAWWW OOO YOU SUCK. YOU SUCK FOR EVERYTHING BAD THAT HAPPENS."
Have you ever considered the hard work that goes into every new feature? Probably not. What you're asking for is a perfect game. Yet sk comes closest to that, with active updates, amazing gameplay and diversity, friendly staff, outstanding style and music, and more.
You think they don't listen to our suggestions? Have you considered that there are things they wanted to implement for the longest time? And some get done faster than others.

And yet, in-game, everybody was like "omg my goooooood accs :DD must get all the accs /o/ " yet on the forum "WHAT IS THIS? THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS. 750 FOR SOMETHING RANDOM? I SHALL NEVER PLAY AGAIN."
Why man, why? Even the OOO appreciation thread is buried now.

tl;dr: You're all jerks for attacking OOO for their hard work.

I just felt the need to post this. Graveyard or not, whatever.

Sat, 10/08/2011 - 16:44

Agrimony

I disagree. It is most

I disagree. It is most definitely NOT one sided. Many times you have the OP a whiner, however he is then assaulted and barraged by game veterans and CE buyers.

Trust me, if you read the entire thread of most of these 'one sided' OOO basher threads you can see many people stick up for OOO or, in contrast, simply go against the whiners. Whether or not the veterans arguments are actually logical and adept of explanation is another thing, although many times they are.

You have to look past those people to see the ones who appreciate OOO. This is another problem with your thread. Sometimes these 'whiners' are people who DO appreciate and love OOO for what they've made, but they simply want to help the game get better. Whether or not THEIR arguments are called for is also another thing to discuss, but not all these threads you talk about are threads of hatred. (although it seems like most are).

Sat, 10/08/2011 - 13:08

Xylka-Mkii

Rawr

I agree so much. I'll admit I attacked OOO a bit in the past, but I think we all do that before actually knowing or getting used to the new features (I.E everything implemented in the last month and a half.

I know I sometimes rage, but I really shouldn't. And I always remember that OOO is doing great, they just need less complainers, than again, what else do we do to spark conversation in the forums.

I'm with you Tersakoff.

EDIT: I agree with the poster above me more. :P Still we should all stop complaining after EVERY update :/

Sat, 10/08/2011 - 13:07

Xcleb

i agree with tersakoff

very well said. sure not everyones a hater, but the people that quit because of accessories went overboard, and i appreciate seeing people stick up for OOO, and a very excellent game.

Sat, 10/08/2011 - 13:08

Bigfootm

So true guys, it's always

So true guys, it's always like this.

Examples:

Players: We want a AH!
OOO: New Patch, AH is out.
Players: I hate the AH OOO, you guys are lame!
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Before LD:

Players: We want PvP!
OOO: PvP is out now! :)
Players: LAME! It's just a ripoff of bomberman!
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Other:

Players: We want this and that!
OOO: Here's some new content that you asked for!
Players: Wow, this is so lame and boring.
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Give OOO a break guys. Did anyone notice what always happens? You guys ask for stuff, OOO gives it to you, and you tell them it's terrible. Go make your own game if your gonna criticize.it's not easy designing games like this. Until you make one this popular, stop the criticism.

To be honest, there's only one thing I didn't like, but even still, they fixed it and it was never a problem. That thing is the day everything 4*+ bounded upon crafting. /cry

So players, give OOO a chance, there doing great as is.
OOO, You guys rock, keep up the great content.
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(I'm not a complainer Tersa. I just love how OOO gives us awesome content. :D)

Sat, 10/08/2011 - 13:09

Hova

You people are wrong, it's

You people are wrong, it's how Agrimony described it.

Sat, 10/08/2011 - 13:17

Tersakoff

@ Angrimony By one-sided I

@ Angrimony
By one-sided I mean, posters are attacking OOO while most of the time they keep quite, I do believe they are reading it though.

Yes, people like me do stick up for OOO, yet OOO themselves don't do anything, that's what I meant.

@Xylka-Mkii
Yes indeed, I have whined about monsters and ce system before, but after some time, I realized why that and why the other one.

Nawr, there's always people to complain and people that have nothing better to do than spam, and people that defend OOO. And some that just watch.

@Xcleb
The only person I know quitting because of the "accessories" was Laverna. But his reason was the massive gambling. UVs and now accs too. But it's all your problem if you're addicted.

@Bigfootm
You portrayed that perfectly.
And yes I agree.
The 4* binding is something I am still trying to understand. Currently I believe that's how they try to prevent people from jumping to 5* too soon. The high ce prices for unbinding still keep that while allowing us to trade 4 and 5*. Rather fair and a nice solution to both what they want and what the community wants.
And the content may not be perfected right when they implement it, but still, they fix it in time.

(I don't see the complain in your post lol.)

Sat, 10/08/2011 - 13:47

Heavy-Duty

Oh OOO

While SK may not supplement everyone, don't go to those places which u think it's hard. Don't buy costumes unless you are EXTREMELY sure u wanna buy stuff w/ CE. OOO will not take over the market, either, to make 2k energy available again. People will always complain, whether for a stupid game (which is fun in any term) or over the President himself. We can't stop players constantly complaining, but some players can't get their complaints to be accepted either. Oh well.

Sat, 10/08/2011 - 14:56

Actin

I think a lot of the forum is

I think a lot of the forum is people airing grievances as loudly as possible no matter how minor it is because there's very little developer feedback and people are just hoping to be heard. There's been a few of those 'what we're up to this month' threads but in general we have little concept of where the game is heading and every time a change rolls out without any kind of context as to why it normally just looks like added grind to line pockets. The crafting changes, every specialty item and service has been an energy sink instead of a crown sink, reduced stratum and danger room payouts, vintage equipment in desperate need of buffs remaining unchanged or worse outright replaced by a new item, every new item since the flourish is token based instead of starting from a standard basil recipe, the blurry line between skipping floors to maximize profits and bannable looping and a fix that prevents either, the dreaded 10th thing we don't know about spiral knights you cryptic son of a bi- but i digress. I can see valid reasons for everything but it isn't really my job to try and interpret changes and white knight the overall positives to unhappy forum posters, but a lot of veteran players do just that so they can keep the interesting discussion based threads floating on page 1 and quickly shoot down the uninformed or complaint threads and that can turn quickly into flame bait. Just add a paragraph or 2 onto patch notes talking about why x needs to be y because we think the game should feel like z and try to keep us posted as much as you can, OOO. You have a real gem of a game here.

Sat, 10/08/2011 - 15:30

Algol-Sixty

I agree with Agrimony,

I agree with Agrimony, especially the part where he(?) said: "Sometimes these 'whiners' are people who DO appreciate and love OOO for what they've made, but they simply want to help the game get better."

If OOO hadn't made the vast majority of decisions well, none of us would be here. There isn't any real point in starting a thread that says "way to go OOO, your decision on how large the shield radius should be was well done!", or "I would like to thank OOO for making the level sizes not too long or too short!". Of course people talk about what they think is either wrong with the current game, or what they think could be made better. Sometimes people do a poor job of expressing these ideas (too much whining, not enough facts/details), but that's to be expected.

Sat, 10/08/2011 - 16:52

#10

Lordnamechange

ima hater

lol i dont hate OOO but i do hate alot of the things they do the main thing is gambling i know when i say that your prolly thinking here we go again another noob ima have to bash down so people will think im cool -.- but i do say every thing is evenly placed if u wanna be the best u gotta be lucky determined or have a job buy a bunch of snipe poo then sit in the baazar with all the proto noobs licking you "batteries" i understand buying CE its kinda needed and people are always whining about prices goin up but they fail to realize that the people spending their money are wanting more cr per ce then it comes into the account of green this entire games is based off greed i mean have you ever noticed that? whens the last time you saw a beggar in haven game him 5k cr or 200ce once never yea i mean who cares itll prolly come and bitcha in the butt in lockdown but back to topic what im trying to say is that this is way more that a 1 sided forum there's a set of teams
the kiss ups always hanging on OOO potatoes sack hoping that maby theyll make friends and and get to put their snipe in in OOO umm ring fore free energy
the C.E. buyers whom are usually one of the following no life, live with parents, get a gril man, or obviously live in such a luxury they can manage to pay for their girlfriend rent and a game designed for 9-14 year olds
the complainers they completely fail at everything so they blame OOO lag every one else yea so what hes using skolver and a grand faust be smart come in with Valkyrie and a freaking Polaris o wait i forgot these people are usually poor cause they have trouble in T1 for crists sake
all the others who dont give a flying these people are the smart people leave the work for the devs and have fun hay every one take a page from this book itll make things easier on ya quit this stupid war
then there are the haydurz these people just hate all those above they dont have the free money for easy energy they have other things to do SK is not their life (this is also a book you should take a page from) and they are always mad (next comment is most-likely gunna be a you mad bro w/o spaces)

and finally the devs and i cant say much they are basically nothing i dont know if they never post to calm a quarrel or they only post when its something they are proud of

but when it comes down to it i wouldn't know much unlike most the people reading this with their rage faces on cause i so disrespected their momas or something like that what ever the kids say these days i am not a fourm rat i enjoy playing the game i absolutely hate it when i lose but i take my loss as knoledge on what part of my skill zone i need to work on un like most people who loss sit in town square saying how they won complain on the forums how they lagged and cry rocking back and forth in the corner cause their girlfriends dumped them cause they choose a child's game over them you know who you are --> lord name change (cause im stupid) but ima stop there b4 i end up going so far off topic that i start talking about the moon from black ops and omg that map is so fun i made it 15 rou
(edit: i made alot of spelling errors

Sat, 10/08/2011 - 16:50

#11

Jim-Dale

Team Fortress 2

Sat, 10/08/2011 - 17:05

#12

Bumbling

It's the nature of how forums

It's the nature of how forums work, really. When people are dissatisfied with something (and there will always be people unhappy with a new update) they have a much stronger urge to give feedback on that than if they were happy with something, or worst of all: everything works perfectly, which is something that's most of the time just taken for granted.

Most people who play this game don't use these forums at all, and they couldn't care less unless they have an issue with something.

Sat, 10/08/2011 - 17:17

#13

Lordnamechange

basicaly what i said just alot shorter

Sat, 10/08/2011 - 17:27

#14

Character-Name

The best way of approving is playing

I am one of those who just come to the forums to say when I don 't like something and why, and like everyone who does so, I believe my reasons are reasonable, and state them here as such.

When I like something? I just play the game. Why bother their ears with inanities, when the best praise I can give is to actually have fun?

Sat, 10/08/2011 - 20:29

#15

Richy

Majority of your complain

Majority of your complain threads are just posted by raging morons who think they are trying to help OOO make a better game when they don't think it through. Then basically the post gets taken apart by most people. Rarely(but it does happen) where you find people who are complaining about something that actually does make a good point.

The forums may seem one sided because many of your rage posters don't know how to actually check another thread and they create their own, giving the illusion of being one sided.

Not all complain threads are bad, just 99% of them ;)

Sat, 10/08/2011 - 21:05

#16

Nicoya-Kitty

Happy people don't whine very

Happy people don't whine very loudly. This has always been true.

Sat, 10/08/2011 - 21:11

#17

Richy

Yeah but they do get mad when

Yeah but they do get mad when you break their nice happy tranquility with 20 complain threads after each update.

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