Gear List Template - Suggest Change
Mon, 04/11/2011 - 02:03
As I did with the Monster Template and added the "Loot Table"
I was thinking adding a Alchemy Table for the Gear List.
Such as here: http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Armor
It will show the requirements to craft the item if it is available in recipe form.
What does everyone think?
Should I go ahead and make the change?
Propose change for Gear List would be :
- Replace Series Column with Alchemy Requirement List
Mon, 04/11/2011 - 11:53
#2
The table would not stretch
The table would not stretch at all.
When I first started playing this game, I look at the Gear List quite often to compare the stats but also to check the requirements to make them.
It just saves the player one click from looking at the material requirements.
But, perhaps you are right.
In that case, maybe I should make a new page.
The new page would resemble the http://wiki.spiralknights.com/List_of_alchemy_paths
However it would not only just show the path, it would also show the stats, the abilities, and as well as my proposed material requirement.
The table would be as follow.
1 Headline
5 Rows with 6 columns.
The 1st Row would list the Tier of the Item.
The 2nd Row would list the Name of the Item.
The 3rd Row would list the Stats of the Item.
The 4th Row would list the Abilities of the Item.
The 5th Row would list the Requirements to make the Item.
It will be similiar to the Alchemy Path template but with more rows.
[Edit] I have attempt to make the proposal in a Sandbox and it seem to extend the table futher than a regular monitor's screenr esolution (1280 width). I am going to now do a new proposal and this time copying the gear list.
Mon, 04/11/2011 - 15:36
#3
Just FYI, a regular monitor
Just FYI, a regular monitor for SK is 1024, not 1280.
Tue, 04/12/2011 - 11:54
#4
Keep it simple
Rather than list the whole ingredients per item, simply list the new ingredients, specifically the new "*" ingredient, but also possible changes, without the amount. Don't even make it a new column; combine with the Rating column icons.
So for example Cobalt Armor would show (when sorted by "Series") as:
* *
IG MS BS
* * *
FF
* * * *
HG
* * * * *
SS // Sun Silver icon
Whilst a Chaos Cowl might show as:
* * * * *
SS TH DS // Shadow Steel icon
They needn't even be clickable; going to the actual recipe will allow people to click through.
This would also allow people when sorting by rating rather than series to see what options they have if they do (or don't) want to use a particular colour of 0* shard.
Oh, and a hint to whoever maintains the forum: the tag is supposed PRESERVE SPACES, and NOT BREAK ON EMPTY LINES either.
Putting the recipe requirements in the list would make it way too long. The table is meant to just be a quick lookup tool where comparison can be done, rather than all inclusive. I don't know how a list of the recipe requirements would be easily compared between rows or sorted in a useful manner. Many players are interested in the alchemy path (series name). I'm not really a fan of the suggested change.
Edit: It's also fairly major to have to check all the recipes (over 250 of them) when just one copy of each is on the wiki, keeping in mind that the devs have said they will keep adding new equipment.
Edit 2: If you really wanted some sort of table with recipes, I would have it be unsortable and have the rows be of alchemy paths (one row per end piece of equipment), sorted by star ratings as the columns (plus path). Separate tables for each equipment type. That could be useful for folks trying to collect all the materials to craft up to a particular end piece. This would need to be on its own page. Again, it has the difficulty of updating the recipes in case of changes (admittedly, I don't know how often this will happen, but in the preview it happened a lot)