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Tue, 10/25/2011 - 12:58
Ccrusader's picture
Ccrusader

Hey everyone! I am not new to SK in the least... but I only own two 5 star swords...
I have just mainly been upgrading armor / helms / shields for the past few months...
I only have a Leviathan / Acheron / Vile Striker / and recently a Sealed Sword (I have a Valiance handgun).
Thats it... Those are my weapons. :)
The Levi and Acheron have been awesome for me and i use them everywhere... I have CTR max trinkets and my ASI is either Ultra or High depending on the gear im wearing.

1. I got the Vile Striker for use in slashing up the Royal Jelly... But now that he is weak to shadow, my acheron does just fine. Is it worth leveling up to Dread Venom? I feel i am fairly vulnerable using the striker because it is so fast... but its fun to learn and get used to. Is the DVS worth it as an ALL-AROUND sword in the game?

2. Should I level up the sealed to Divine? or get some other kind of Elemental sword? (Glacius?) I definitely like speedier swords... but it seems the DA is an awesome weapon... but im thinking if Glacius would be better? Im already used to the Acheron so Glacius would not be much of a learning curve whereas the DA is a slow sword so relearning with it would be different...

3. What Piercing sword should i get? It seems the Barbarous is the best bet...

Thanks for the tips!!

the gear i have and wear are:

ARMOR:
Fallen, Vog, Skolver, Radiant Silvermail, Valkyrie
HELM:
Fallen, Vog, (eventually Skolver cap)
SHIELD:
Barbarous, Volcanic Plate, and Grey Owlite

Thanks again!

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 13:12
#1
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Bopp
some answers

1. No, the DVS is not worth it. It has some fans, but for Tier 3 Cutters are hard to use (albeit fun). For Tier 2, the 4-star version is about as good, due to weakening of weapons above their tier. Even for the old version of JK, I did not recommend upgrading Vile Striker.

2. I use Glacius more than DA nowadays, but I still like DA, and I use it in FSC. One of my favorite features of Spiral Knights is that different weapons, and in particular swords, actually feel different. So I recommend that you give slow swords a serious try. You're right, of course, that Glacius is more similar to Acheron than DA is to Acheron. To me, this is not an important consideration. I usually play with three swords, and often they are swords of entirely different feels (e.g. DA, Acheron, BTB), and I have no trouble switching among them.

3. Piercing swords have been compared in many threads. The short version is that FF and BTB are equally good, and identical in regular attacks. FF's charge hurts one monster badly, while BTB's charge hurts a few monsters less badly. The other two piercing swords offer status effects at the expense of some damage. The conventional wisdom is that you'd rather have the damage than the status effects.

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 13:24
#2
Ccrusader's picture
Ccrusader
Thank you Bopp! I really

Thank you Bopp!
I really appreciate the input!
I agree with you about the striker and think that i will let the vile striker sit in my arsenal... :)

anyone else want to weigh in? :)

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 13:34
#3
Skaiwalka's picture
Skaiwalka
1. Like Bopp said, I wouldn't

1. Like Bopp said, I wouldn't bother.
2. DA is very good and has a lot of fanboys (me included haha), but I'm not so ignorant to dismiss the other brandish swords. Before I got my DA and Faust I was rolling around with Combuster and Nightblade. It's all preference here. DA = Glacius, it's just whichever style you prefer, and since you mentioned you like speedier swords, I'd go with Glacius. It really is just as good, even in FSC.
3. Bopp is legit again, FF or BTB, it's really just preference. I personally go with BTB, takes down wolvers easily enough and one-shot's Trojans in FSC solo. (I actually have the 4* Thorn Blade)

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 14:24
#4
Ccrusader's picture
Ccrusader
Thanks Skaiwalka! I

Thanks Skaiwalka! I appreciate it!
I think i will definitely level up to DA...
and i just bought a fireburst brandish with UV High vs Fiend... I wont be using that in FSC obviously, but allaround im pretty happy about it...

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 14:37
#5
Skaiwalka's picture
Skaiwalka
My pleasure, and good luck.

My pleasure, and good luck. =]

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 20:49
#6
Tennis's picture
Tennis
@Ccrusader

Just a friendly note...

Since the latest update, the Divine Avenger has gotten patched.
It can no longer hit through walls, which is useful a couple times in FSC.
But now that it can longer do magic tricks, the Brandishes are an even more viable option.
Not saying that the DA is unnecessary to have! It's still a great weapon!
In fact, IMO, the DA's new and improved charge is better for crowd control and damage!

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 06:28
#7
Bopp's picture
Bopp
DA vs. Glacius in FSC

Tennis is right of course. DA is no longer magical in FSC, but it is still quite good. I've also used Glacius in FSC. I think I prefer DA for FSC.

When doing regular (not charge) attacks against a single enemy, Glacius does more damage per second than DA. However, DA has a much broader swing. So if you have multiple enemies standing close together --- as zombies in FSC often are --- then DA can do more total DPS. Additionally, DA has much bigger knockback, so it's better defensively (i.e. getting a crowd away from you).

Glacius' freeze is awesome, but in the hardest, tightest fights (e.g. last fight of depth 27), it's hard to maneuver to make full use of a Glacius freeze. I mean, even if you have time to charge, you may not be able to position yourself perfectly with respect to the enemies, so that multiple enemies are frozen. But maybe I need more practice. And I've never used Glacius against Vanaduke himself, admittedly.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 08:50
#8
Ccrusader's picture
Ccrusader
Great to know guys! I heard

Great to know guys! I heard the DA was patched but wasnt sure if it really nerfed it per-say...
Glad to know it's still a good sword... I just bought an Avenger recipe...
Ill be leveling up to DA, Combuster, and Barbarous Thorn for the next couple weeks...
Thanks so much for all the help!! Truly appreciated

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 11:17
#9
Julienxh's picture
Julienxh
Brandish line is my all

Brandish line is my all around fav sword but u should focus on DA and Glacius. Barborous is awesome and so is acheron btw.

Thu, 10/27/2011 - 16:41
#10
Backstar
k I think I got a good sword

k I think I got a good sword the screaming blade like? its charge does a large black face then screams and gear set can be all cure any shock anyway can it be 5 * and plus can i get a test gear of it if its ready soon

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