Spiral Knights - Need an opinion on what to replace/get for my loadout

Need an opinion on what to replace/get for my loadout

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Mon, 10/31/2011 - 13:53

Wezz

Hi, im looking to get a new weapon here is my choices

- Ash Tail cap UV pierce low (should i get a skolver or vog cub, extra pierce defense or have a slight decrease in piercing damage done against me?)

- Ash Tail coat no UV (i might change this to suit my many guns)
now for my weapons, i have 2 weapon slots, but i have enough CE to get 2 more, im in need of a piercing weapon and a shadow weapon, but i need another sword.

-wise owlite shield UV poison resist low (not the best UV but it beats my non-upgrade able scarlet shield)

-Avenger (plan to get DA)

-Fiery Pepperbox (i got this because its fire makes up for its lack of damage, it is a good gun for JK)

-Prisma Driver (I actually found this on a t2 jelly palace run, i didn't have a 4* gun at the time, its great if you don't need a status effect for extra damage)

-Antigua (i bought this as i was planning to sell it, but didn't get enough CE to unbind it as i recently crafted my shield, got to get to floor 18 to get access to t3, should i sell or keep and upgrade?)

i need a piercing weapon and a shadow weapon, but not the blackhawk since it's a contradiction against slimes.

also, i plan to go on lockdown after i get these to 5* when the mist runs dry, so maybe that needed to be mentioned

TY in advance for any advice

edit: it should also be noted that i have a bristling buckler and a recipie for its 3* variant, ive heard good things about that shield

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 14:11

Yuyukosama

Just my two cents

Whether you go vog or skolver depends on how you do in the game imo. If you get hit loads, then vog is superior as it helps you finish attacking faster (allowing you to get your shield up, run away etc), protects against elemental (turrets, retrodes and the like) as well as protect you from fire. Skolver will probably see you killed more often should you take lots of hits but if you're skilled enough the damge bonus is superior to ASI (my opinion).

Owlite shield is a solid endgame shield, as most enemies do split damage (normal) or just elemental occasionally (turrets). Not to mention the fire/shock res makes it a viable FSC shield.

Pepperbox is.. interesting. In terms of normal guns, I would have suggested quite a few others before coming to this as I believe the blitz needle is far superior in terms of what its utility is (clearing out soft bodied enemies/vana as against anything else the recovery time is too dangerous). But if you like it, go ahead I guess.

For alchemers I believe that since the damage is pretty terrible anyway the status is far more useful. Never had a prisma before though so if it suits you go for it. I had a storm driver which I was very happy with, then switched to a polaris which I was even more happy with. Depends on your style.

Antigua is interesting, it's terrible in clockworks but if used well it's devasting in pvp. I suggest you hop in a few T2 LD matches and see if it suits you.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 14:14

Bopp

piercing, elemental, shadow

You have an elemental sword. So you need a piercing sword (Final Flourish or Barbarous Thorn Blade). You also need a shadow sword (Acheron or Gran Faust).

You have an elemental gun, which is good against gun puppies and howlitzers, and fine against polyps. If you want more guns, then get a piercing gun (Callahan or Blitz Needle or Plague Needle) and a shadow gun (Umbra Driver or Biohazard).

There are also bombs in Spiral Knights. Some are awesome. Consult the Bomber guide for a start.

By the way, my advice is PvE-focused. I'll let others comment on PvP.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 14:26

Bluescreenofdeath

Armor. If you want to run FSC

Armor. If you want to run FSC then Vog is the way to go, but ultimatly you will likely want both Vog and Skolver. I would personally rather have a Skolver Cap with a touch extra piercing then have a Vog Cap with a tiny little bit of piecing (that said its only low so you can always re-roll it later). I would gear up for T3 instead of T2 because the JK and Twins are very easy with any 4-5* armor. I took my Ash -> Vog for FSC and I still run JK no prob.

Owlite is great for FSC. I also love the 4* version of Bristling Buckler for JK runs or any Piercing heavy stratum.

Piercing weapon: I really like the Snarby Sword, just grind out a few more T1 boss runs. Also, this blade is great for Lockdown as it is the only pure non-normal sword (well it and the Flourish line which is basically the same sword with a different charge).

I don't think you are going to turn a profit unbinding an Antigua unless it has some killer UV. If you hate it & want rid of it you can sell it back to the vender (bound) for 750 crowns.

For a general use sidearm to complement swords that Prisma Driver would work the best because sword users tend to only get their guns out to take care of turrets from a distance.

As far as a Shadow Sword Acheron (brandish) vs GF really comes down to if you like 3 swing swords or 2 swing swords.

*edit I was slow to post this so, sry if it is redundant.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 14:33

Bluescreenofdeath

ASI vs DMG optimal DPS

ASI vs DMG optimal DPS depends on the type of Swords you are using. Heavy 2 swing swords (DA/GF) will see bigger gains from ASI while Medium to Fast swords (Calibur, Brandish, Flourish) will see more gains from DMG.

That said I think the best answer is to have as much of both ASI and DMG as you can, but I usually go for Max ASI with the 2 swingers and Max for DMG with the 3 swingers as I usually devote a trinket slot to CTR as well and can't always swing Max on both if I want optimal shield protection for the way ahead.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 14:43

Wezz

Ok, I think i found what im

Ok, I think i found what im looking for, would a flourish line and a Nightblade + my pepperbox (im i need of a status effect and dont want to deal with another elemental weapon with the status brandishes) or i can unbind one of my guns and trade for a pulsar -> polaris (or maybe a supernoava?)

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 20:34

Bopp

sounds good

So you're proposing (A) Final Flourish or Barbarous Thorn Blade, (B) Acheron, and (C) Volcanic Pepperbox or Polaris? That sounds great, yes. Very nice. (However, I'm expecting a lot of people to chime in saying that you should get Polaris instead of continuing with the Pepperbox.)

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 20:37

Wezz

yeah now that i got a

yeah now that i got a flourish and put my prisma driver+ fiery pepperbox in there, (got a bid on a decent UV nightblade atm), i think i got an idea of what my future loadout is going to be (weapons at least) TY for everyone that gave advice

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