Spiral Knights - Skolver or Snarbolax?

Skolver or Snarbolax?

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Tue, 11/01/2011 - 18:36

Bigfootm

For just a second, let's say that the Snarby doesn't have that poison resist.

I have a Ash Tail Cap Elemental High. I'm debating whether to make it a Skolver or Snarby item. (I do have Shadow Keys)

I'm going to use this both in PvP and the Clockworks. (But mainly PvP) I already have a Skolver Cap Shadow High.

IMO, I'm leaning towards Snarby just because I already miss my 1st [Snarby] set. I'm also leanin toward it because I'd THINK this wouldn't be a bad combo in PvP:

Snarby Cap Ele High
Snarby Coat Ele High/MAXIMUM
Royal Jelly Band x2

As opposed to my current PvP set(s)

Skolver Set (Various UVs)
Various Trinkets

And

Skolver Cap+Vog Cub Coat (Various UVs)
Various Trinkets
••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••

So Snarby>Skolver right?

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 19:13

Adenocel

Skolver>Snarby

For balance reasons, defense does not reduce damage in PvP. I have personally tested this, and I took the same amount of damage from a Polaris bullet in both Proto gear and Vog Cub. This should still hold true so long there has not been a recent stealth patch related to the issue. Status resists on armor do still apply however. Due to the fact that freeze is much more common in PvP than poison, Skolver>Snarby, unless the Snarby has freeze resist UVs that would push it near the resist cap.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 20:28

Shadownox

u already have skolver and

u already have skolver and vog, so just get the snarby.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:27

Duskdash

Defense and PvP?

Whoa, that's news to me. So there's no reason to bring more than one sword other than the difference between 2-swing and 3-swing swords?

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 10:03

Spyash

snarby set

snarby coat and cap are the coolest items ever id get them in a heart beat

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 10:18

Spamisalreadyinuse

can you retest this with

can you retest this with melee and bombs?

i distinctly remember taking less damage from weapons when i wore a piece of an ancient set. maybe the extra health is messing with me.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 10:41

Juances

@Duskdash Defense may not

@Duskdash Defense may not matter, but damage/speed/status it can inflict of the weapon does.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 10:47

Sypsy

If you have a skolver cap

If you have a skolver cap elemental high, why would you make your current ash tail cap elemental high into a skolver? Sell off one? Or did I misunderstand something here? Maybe you meant you already have the skolver coat w/ ele high....

IMO, your "various" trinkets contain important weapon bonuses like sword asi & dmg. Not sure what you like to play in lockdown, but I would prefer getting max dmg then max asi over a well rounded defense.

If you're on the pointy end of a lvl 10 final flourish with max damage having the standard hp (no trinkets, completed armor/helm), I think you will die in the same number of hits if you wore a vog and a skolver. If not, the difference is very little. 2 vs 3 hits. If you're on the business end of a max damage gf/da, it's still going to be 2 swings to death.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 10:55

Spamisalreadyinuse

oh just wanted to add that if

oh just wanted to add that if what adonocel said is true, then recon death mark is basically worthless.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 11:35

Retrofit

Death marks

Death marks have always had a noticeable effect on how much damage a target takes. If Adon's report is accurate, then the mark either bring defences into the negative or applies a damage modifier rather than an actual defence debuff.

That's assuming his report is accurate, of course.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 14:29

#10

Bigfootm

...Oops.

Sorry, typed that Skolver uv wrong, I was tired.

It's SHADOW high.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 16:38

#11

Adenocel

I stand corrected.

It would appear that defense does affect damage in PvP, at least now anyway. I just now tested and I took 10 blocks of damage from a DA in Proto, yet only around 5 blocks in Vog. However I am still certain that when I previously tested that the damage values were the same for Polaris, so there must have either been some sort of bug or a stealth patch. I would still recommend Skolver for the piercing defense, since BTB is the most common weapon you will come across.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 19:38

#12

Bigfootm

What dark Ritual?

I can avoid BTBs/GFs fairly easy. Not only do I use striker, but I also BTB about everyone, Skolver or not.

Either way, I've decided to make this a Snarby Cap for various reasons. I hvnt crafted it yet, but probably will this Saturday. Feel free to make me still make this a Skolver. :3

Thanks again everyone.

~Bigfoot

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