Well I've been wondering why people can't join automatically at later stages.
I'm currently in depth 16 jk palace, but my whole team left, I'm already waiting about 40~ minutes and no one joins.
So why can't people join at these stages?
Oh and btw, if someone wanna help out, message Baerstrike ingame.
Past Basil the random "Join a Party" button does not send people to that depth. Lots of reasons for that, here are a few:
When you are stuck all alone at D16, invite a friend! Better yet, invite them at D13 so they get the full allotment of Jelly Tokens.
Also note that nobody will be able to join your party at all if someone went solo, or if the party leader kicked someone. The party will usually unlock at the next level, with the exception of boss or shadow levels.
Everyone is right but....
Yesterday I was in FSC. The leader opened the party so I could invite a guildie to the 1 open slot. I was next to him, ready to invite, and the 3rd guy was disconnected.
Party gets opened...
4* player pops in from nowhere.
You can guess my reactionn to that...
Everyone is right though, especially Nicoya-Kitty in this case. You DID check to see the party was Restricted, right?
Xylka, a 4th person can pop in anytime post Basil if the party is opened if they're a friend of a friend in the party or a guildmate of one of your party members. Some people are casually scanning their friends to see who's in FSC or similar places and they see a spot, they jump...I do that :P Sometimes I ask but with go solo and whatnot and also having a sorta ok relationship with even the randoms I add, I usually don't bother.
I've had people join after basil. Indeed, I've had people join near the very end of the level before going down to vanaduck. I had it happen to me this morning, I forgot I left the party open, and was soloing the FSC and in pops someone in the middle of the second to the last room before vanaduck (the room where the totems spawn). And, no, they weren't my friends/guildmates, nor anyone else's in the party.
Where do people get the ideal that you can't get new party members after basil?
I suspect the game adds people to the open party with space that is highest in the clockworks. By the time you get to down basil, *usually* there will be a party above you that will qualify, but not always.
Negima, people like you are why I lock my groups to my friend list. Also, why I don't accept random friend requests from Burger Kings.
Well it quite sucks when the whole part leaves and you can't do JK alone (I can't :p).
Just wanted the Jelly Gems so badly, but oh well.
@ Negima
I know anyone on your friends list can, but i checked mine and he wasn't there, and the other guy didn't know him either.
Everything turned out fine in our case, but meh
@OP
If you cant solo JK then you might want to avoid randoms, they usually wont go the full way.
That happened to me a lot when going to Snarby the first time. I was so happy to finally reach him and hear the boss music etc. etc. or the first time. But i was REALLY disappointed at some people saying it was too hard for them (in wolver -.-)
But that's how it goes, i guess. That's why I found a good guild that wouldn't bail on me.
I jump into a gate from haven elevators a lot, and I've never ported into a party past Basil. I think what may have happened in the exceptions mentioned here is either some sort of glitch, or likely that whoever else in your party overlooked or lied about them not being their friend, lol.
I was ported into a Snarby run that was on (what is it depth 6th?) the floor before Snarby.
I was a bit bummed because I had just enough energy for the day that I wanted to do all of the Snarby area for fun.
After completing a shadow lair, we ended up at the core ( like always) and right before we went onto the elevator a random joined our group AT THE CORE. We were all like ahhh wtf?
The second half of a tier is more profitable than the first half. The main reason you can't randomly join parties in the second half of a tier is to prevent you from earning too many crowns for the energy and time put in.
Friends allow you to work around this issue.
The main reason you can't join a party after someone has gone solo or got kicked is because too many people were abusing that mechanic.
I jump into a gate from haven elevators a lot, and I've never ported into a party past Basil.
This may be the difference between our observations. I generally start closed parties and wait until I have my three health pills and a few key vials before opening the party up. I usually don't sit and wait for people at basil either. So, depending on how things go, I often have free spots after basil.
And as far as being mistaken about the people joining being friends/guildmates, I can assure you that I'm not lying to myself when someone joins my solo party after basil.
Based on what other people have posted, it is pretty clear that randoms joining your party after basil *can* happen, it just might not happen often. If just over 25% of the players create open parties from the start, then most off the time, there will be open parties with empty spots high in the clockworks.
Yeah, I noticed more people posting about the post-basil teleport too, though not for the reasons I initially suspected. I do understand this should happen when someone joined if the party went from basil to the floor after it, as it just means that they joined as the party was heading down on the elevator. That I've seen and done plenty of times.
I believe post-basil-pug ports aside from the situation I mentioned earlier are either a glitch or something new. I feel that if this ever was on purpose, that I would've observed myself porting into post-basil parties. If that actually was a feature, it would end up being much more profitable to do random-pug-delves as you have a better chance to land in-the-money depths, which I'm all for.
I feel that if this ever was on purpose, that I would've observed myself porting into post-basil parties.
It is in OOO's best interest to put people as high up in the clockworks as possible, but it is also better if, when someone asks to join a party, they get to go with a party. I'm pretty sure I've been added to a party that was post-basil a couple of times because I remember equipping myself with the top half theme and being equipped wrong when sent to the bottom, but I start vastly more parties than I join, so it has been a while.
In my situations at least, in the down times during the middle of the day, I have a lot of difficulty finding an open party to port into. A lot of times I just get stuck with "no party available", where I wait till any actual party opens up. And these were in the popular gates and tiers as well, such as tier2-JK and tier3-Vana gates.
I'm also the type of person who gets impatient sometimes and just wants to hop as deep into their tier as I could for JK and Vana, so I routinely leave parties to go back to have if they're nowhere close to Basil. This happens around half a dozen times (that I can bother tolerating repeat pug-ports) for each gate-entry attempt, and I usually have 2-3 boss runs a day, so even with my 12-18 attempts a day I can't report that I've ever pug-delved into the middle of a JK or FSC run.
Although this is well too late, its just a part of the system that random players cannot join past Basil. I suppose a possible reason is so that people don't unwittingly miss the recipes he has or start boss stratums late.
However, friends and guildmates are not subject to this rule, they can join at any level. Make some random friends, they'll tend to drop by, or join a guild.
There is one exception to this rule and that is if the party is restricted for whatever reason (boss level, treasure vault, going solo, etc), nobody can join you.