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Dilemma: Bomber or Gunner

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Sat, 11/05/2011 - 12:28
Breedlove

I have committal issues...
I'm currently a pure gunner, but every time I party with a bomber, I have the urge to unbind and sell all my gear so I can start working on a bombing set finding bombing to be much more interesting (plus Demo sets look infinitely better than Gunslinger sets; I wear a 2* Cobalt set as a costume to cover my gear)

This is my current gunner set:
Nameless Hat
Nameless Poncho
Polaris
Umbra Driver
Blitz Needle
Cryo Driver

I did the same thing with swords last week going so far as building up a Gran Faust, Glacius, Dark Thorn Blade, and Ash Tail set...
Needless to say, I sold off all my sword gear when I decided I wanted to go back to gunslinger...

I picked up the Freezing Vaporizer recipe line the other day and now carry the upgrade bomb in lieu of of my Cryo Driver...
Can someone give me advice as to what to do (or convince me not to drop everything and start over as a bomber)...

It's not too late for me as a Shivermist Buster would be a great addition to my gunner set but at the moment I'm seriously contemplating selling off my entire Gunner set to go Pure Bomber (keeping the Polaris and possibly Blitz Needle and Umbra Driver)...

If I do go Bomber here is what I'd eventually want to end up with:

Volcanic Demo Helm
Mad Bomber Suit
Shivermist Buster
Electron Vortex
Dark Briar Barrage
Polaris

Is there anything else I'm missing as far as weapon choice goes? I'm avoiding the cloud DoT lines as AoA is useless in FSC and VT doesn't really seem that great compared to an EV coupled with the Shivermist Buster (Vacuum up the mobs while applying shock then freezing them in place leaving me to do whatever I want from a safe range). The DBB, of course, would save me a lot of stress on Beast strata. In these cases I'd use my gun(s) to deal extra damage while CC is still active before repeating the process again.

(I do see a lot of people running full Mad Bomber and was wondering if I should avoid that as I do run a lot of FSC)

Insight and suggestions are highly appreciated!

Sat, 11/05/2011 - 13:32
#1
Glowing-Ember's picture
Glowing-Ember
Don't sell your stuff.

I recommend you first get either the armor, or two Elite Bomb Focus modules. From there, heat up one bomb at a time and keep most of your gunner gear. Once you have Max CTR and max radius on three or so bombs, you can start as a full-time bomber.

I started a bombing alt with nothing but bombs from the beginning. Can't recommend it. Bombs not only have the highest learning curve, but are extremely hard to use unless they are 5* with max CTR.

Sat, 11/05/2011 - 13:38
#2
No-Thanks
Zelda

bombs are worst in fsc, while guns are best, so its not really that great to go with bombs in fsc unless u want a challenge

Sat, 11/05/2011 - 13:39
#3
Glowing-Ember's picture
Glowing-Ember
Um.

That's really not true. At all.

Swords are best, followed by bombs, then guns. Unless you mean Vana, in which case, yeah, obviously guns are best.

Sat, 11/05/2011 - 13:44
#4
Nicoya-Kitty's picture
Nicoya-Kitty
Good advice: quit unbinding

Good advice: quit unbinding and selling your gear. Unless it has really good UVs, you won't be able to sell it at a profit compared to the CE cost of unbinding. Just sell your CE on the market if you're desperate for cash.

Your proposed bomber loadout is a good start. I'd add in an RSS, Nitro (for solo only, unless you really know how to use it), and keep the umbra driver around.

The RSS and Polaris both work splendidly on turrets, but having an umbra driver around can really take the frustration out of dealing with gremlin menders undoing all your hard work. You could also use a Callahan for covering both menders and silkwings.

Your loadout doesn't include any weapons that deal a decent amount of knockback at close range. If you're not very careful and/or have a good team, you might find yourself getting swarmed. Consider taking along a high-knockback sword like a Levi in cases where that could be a risk. The Levi's charge attack is also good against turrets.

Basically, you want to put together a list of wants, and then figure out how best to cover them. These should include: Bread and Butter DPS, dealing with turrets, dealing with menders, dealing with silkwings, dealing with getting swarmed, general crowd control and team support. Which of those are most important to cover depends on whether you're going solo, or with what the rest of your team is comfortable with covering.

A nice solo loadout could be: Nitro, RSS, Callahan, Levi. Or: DBB, VT, Polaris, Levi (great for fiend and undead levels). With a team to keep you out of trouble you might go: SB, EV, RSS, DBB. For RJ with a team a great combo could be: AoA, VT, GV and Umbra. For FSC with a team you might want: SB/VT, DBB, RSS, Polaris/BN.

Sat, 11/05/2011 - 16:19
#5
Glowing-Ember's picture
Glowing-Ember
Venom Veiler turns menders

Venom Veiler turns menders against mobs, adding to your DPS rather than subtracting. I'd go with that instead of an Umbra Driver.

And Levi isn't a bomb. I wish bombers would stop calling it one.

Sat, 11/05/2011 - 17:50
#6
Nicoya-Kitty's picture
Nicoya-Kitty
@Glowing-Ember VV is a good

@Glowing-Ember VV is a good option too, should have mentioned it.

And face it, the Levi is just a sword-shaped Nitronome. ;)

Mon, 11/07/2011 - 16:28
#7
Breedlove
Update

So I decided to go ahead with the bombing set.

Here is what I have so far (haven't sold any of my guns or other armors at the moment):

Heavy Demo Helm
Heavy Demo Suit
Freezing Atomizer UV Undead Low
Toxic Atomizer
Electron Charge
Ascended Calibur UV CTR Low

So far I'm not a big fan of the Electron Charge (but this could be because the radius at 3* is annoyingly small) and I'm thinking of dropping it in favor of the Spine Cone line or just using my Polaris/BN.

I'm really going for an all-around set that I won't have to change up very often. Am I on the right track?

Mon, 11/07/2011 - 16:49
#8
Nicoya-Kitty's picture
Nicoya-Kitty
The electron/graviton bombs

The electron/graviton bombs don't really come into their own until the 5* versions, at which point they start sucking up nearly every mob on the screen into a nice little easily-attacked wad in the middle. That said, they're also primarily combo weapons: you'll mostly be using them to hoover up enemies in order to unleash some other sort of attack on them (either yourself, or your teammates).

With your current loadout, though, you'll probably want to equip a DBB-line bomb first and leave the Electron Vortex for crafting later as you suggest.

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 22:35
#9
Breedlove
So I've just realized that I

So I've just realized that I don't have nearly enough time in my life to farm Lockdown for the Electron Charge recipe line.

On the other hand, most of my bomber gear is now 4* and I have exactly 800 CE to spare.
I was thinking of either upgrading to Shivermist Buster or Mad Bomber Suit as the first 5* pieces of my bomber set, does this sound about right? Or should I just work on getting alternate bombs to 4* ie: Spike Shower?

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 23:14
#10
Nicoya-Kitty's picture
Nicoya-Kitty
Cooking up a spike shower

Cooking up a spike shower first would probably get you a better payoff in the short term. After that I'd go for the Volcanic helm, then the Mad suit.

It's tempting to go for the Mad suit first, as you get both CTR and Damage bonuses, but if you go Volcanic Helm first you won't need to worry about the fire vulnerability at least on the Mad suit.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 05:58
#11
Cherubrock's picture
Cherubrock
all of the best players have

all of the best players have a mix of swords bombs and guns..

Tue, 11/15/2011 - 01:51
#12
Breedlove
and add kicks in again...

and add kicks in again... dropping bomber ><

Tue, 11/15/2011 - 04:00
#13
Batabii's picture
Batabii
The EC recipe is cheap, man!

The EC recipe is cheap, man! 50 krogmo coins? You could easily get that in a day if your team didn't lose constantly.

Otherwise use the AH

Tue, 11/15/2011 - 04:47
#14
Cleverpun's picture
Cleverpun
get a cata be both :D

get a cata be both :D

Tue, 11/15/2011 - 23:43
#15
Windsickle's picture
Windsickle
@Breedlove

Don't forget, there's Blast Network also. We know how much you love it.

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