Spiral Knights - Suggested Price

Suggested Price

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Wed, 04/13/2011 - 19:32

kamonsimon

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*What is Suggested Price (SP)?
It is a price for all people - especially for free play, to know a item should cost how much

to buy, and is it worth for that price.

*The formula?
Basically I would only take a look on all 3* or above weapons. Since I believe, 2* weapons

will mostly remain around 2k or sth.

For example, a Avenger SP would be something like this:
-4* Recipe = 15000
-Alchemy cost = 2500
-Energy cost = 200
-Market Price for 100CE = 3300
-SP for Avenger = (15000 + 2500 + 200/100*3300) = 24100 crowns

After watching the formula, and I will answear some of the questions you might want to ask:

1.What about the Materials cost?
-Well, first of all, there are tons of people are selling 0-5* materials already, as they

are full set of weapon and armor with 5* crafting. Beside, unless you are new player, bought

35000CE with your credit card at once. Otherwise, mostly you would got 90% of materials in

your backpack. Therefore you might just cost around 2-3k crowns to fix the materials problem

easily.

2.I am not A good man, I want to earn money by selling item?
-Ok, take a example again with Avenger. Sealed Sword are not able to trade in ANYWAY, if you

want to sell the sword, the only choice is upgrading the sword into Avenger/Faust, and here

is the condition:

a.Are you Full set of weapon already?
b.Are you going to use the weapon by yourself?
c.Are you going to sell the sword in order to buy other weapon?
d.Are you going to sell the sword untill it upgraded into Divine Avenger/Gran Faust?

And so, option A and C will make this weapon loadout into the market, while option B won't,

option D will make this item loadout into market in later time. That's mean there are 75%

for a normal person to sell ANY weapon that haven't bounded yet.

I saw someone sold a Avenger with 30k CE, and he is happy.
Let me take a look: 3000 CE = 99000 crowns, which is far away from 24100 - the suggested

price. The profit of this trading would be 99000-24100 = 74900 crowns.

And that's why, you could see why the marketing of CE are non-stop increasing. Since the

flowing of crowns are too much in the game already.

However, people who would able to buy this weapon with 3000CE, are:

1.A people who owned a Credit Card and too rich. Maybe 20% of players
2.A people who earned a lot by selling materials. Maybe 10% of players (However this is a

history already)
3.A people who F2P and just earning with normal method. Maybe 70% of players (Raid for

different gates, selling rare drops, mats. recipe etc.)

I mean, most of the money are focused on 30% of all players in the game. And of course, they are the master of controlling CE price in market, too.

I don't want the game are ruined by those 30% people, if 70% of F2P user trading with SP plus some crowns in the market.
The problem of market that currently made will be easily fixed, soon

Wed, 04/13/2011 - 19:40

Zedoshi

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In before the usual

In before the usual non-intelligent blabber about how 'you have to pay for the better rewards, you have to deal with it if you want to play for free, they're supporting the server so suck it up, etc.'

You know, stuff that ISN'T helpful?

Wed, 04/13/2011 - 19:47

Zeirnaton

your forgetting the cost of

your forgetting the cost of getting to jelly king going from floor 9 to to the king is like 80 energy plus if some1 gets knocked out atleast once which i'm sure atleast 1 person gets knocked out by the time they finish it

Wed, 04/13/2011 - 19:49

Profanity

Irrelevant. You get crowns

Irrelevant. You get crowns and other items for going to the Jelly King also.

Wed, 04/13/2011 - 20:03

Zeirnaton

not really you don't actually

not really you don't actually start getting nething good till floor 16 plus u gotta factor in the time spent grinding jelly king

Wed, 04/13/2011 - 20:11

Zedoshi

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Ok, you could've used better

Ok, you could've used better examples, so I'll merely examine yours.

You say someone sold an Avenger for an unusually high price, to someone most likely has energy via buying.

If free players like you don't do hard work to make a clean business by getting the avenger yourself, the rich people won't have anyone to buy from. You get more than 3k crowns running through one run of jelly king, buy 100 more energy, and by the time you're grinding royal jelly you should already have more than your mist energy. That cycle repeats until you have enough gems, AND if you don't die stupidly, you get 20 energy built up each time + extra crowns + all that heat.

Congratulations, you're what America calls 'the minority hard working lower class nobody wants to join but are the only people that actually matter'.

There's actually two much clearer choices: Work hard in real life for money (or beg from your parents like the child you are...Coughmagnuscough.), or work hard in the game. Either way, you need to dedicate time.

Stop whining.

Wed, 04/13/2011 - 20:14

Gonefishin

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If people want to take the

If people want to take the easy way out, there has to be a price.

For others, we can just craft our own gear.

Plus you never factored in the Sealed Sword.

Wed, 04/13/2011 - 20:13

Negimasonic

Thread derailing already. Not

Thread derailing already.

Not helping that the opening post was kind of...fuzzy. Pretty sure English is not the users native language, which is fine but makes understanding this a bit more difficult.

Wed, 04/13/2011 - 22:04

kamonsimon

Legacy Username

maybe i will get to the

maybe i will get to the point:

1. I am one of the people who have credit card, and money
2. SP always ignored something like -
The time that upgrading a weapon(ex. like 3* to 4* you need take time to level up to 5, etc.)
The time that materials are fully collected by one person
The UV, of coz
The reason to ignored those factor are simple: those are not able/easy to measure into crowns. For some people, he might runs a gate for 2-3 times and all the materials are collected (including 5*, of coz), but for some people, they might ran for 100 times but never able to get the final part of materials. As I said, this would be solved easily as there are many materials seller nowadays.
3. SP is assuming the one who are trying to sell a weapon, who is not going to use the weapon anyway. People like FULL SET WEAPON and Armor would mostly do that often.

The reason I make this post is to helping those F2P players.

Seriosuly, I like this game, and I want more and more people playing in this game too.
However, I don't want 30% players making other 70% players playing in a very hard day, like 60LVL Era World of Warcraft (A first online game that too reality, you just like working during playing wow).

A way to support Three Rings, is to encourage 70% F2P user keep playing and inviting others, in the mean time they also pay a little bit real money by the time.

A simple example, If the market gonna take 100k Crowns for 100CE, I sure those people like me with money won't think it is the problem.
However, for the F2P, I also pretty sure they would rage this game at once. In the end, all the server will only remain 5-10 people in the lobby.

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