-Twisted Snarble Barbs do to much damage in lockdown even with piercing protection and are to fast.
-They should have there damage decreased OK.
-Twisted Snarble Barbs do to much damage in lockdown even with piercing protection and are to fast.
-They should have there damage decreased OK.
Too - "in addition, also ..."
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/too
If yer gonna troll, try to get it right first.
That is all.
*edit Guitarknight is faster on the draw. Snap!
...
i knew i shouldn't have sold my twisted snarble barb to a vendor...
/EPIC FAIL
it's because Snabrle deals full piercing, while all armor only have half pierce/half anything else
The thing is ALL piercing weapons do a lot of damage. The flourish is better in lockdown in my opinion. Nightblade, on the other hand, really sucks in lockdown(low range, very slow, charge attack does almost no damage).
ill make it short
it PIERCES thru defence
its FAST attack are hard to evade
i mean do u know why alpha wolvers are annoying to most people its cause they are fast and ignore ALL damage resistance and the best way to get rid of them is with a fast weapon that thay are weak to and thus the flourish line was brithedid no they are piece of cake no? well now imagin this and alpha wolver thats twice as fast with 1/4th shadow 1/4th piercing 1/2 normal max damage vs you asi ultra and yes it exists its called a snbolver or a skarby which ever you perfer but they are not weak to anything and are very fast but some times very stealthy instead of fast
point is the piercing lines dominate PvP cause there is no deference against them that is very useful and thats just the truth
any one get the pun? get it point flourish ahh i crack my self up
I need to lecture Lordnamechange , who uses words like "thru" and confuses "are" with "is", etc.
1) Take a typing class. Not a deliberate troll, just a point of advice. No one is gonna take you seriously.
2) I find alpha wolvers quite easy, and I'm sure many people do as well.
3) They do not ignore any ressistance or attack. They are weak to peircing, ressistant to elemental, and deal peircing and normal damage. Statuses vary, of course.
Though I do agree with the analogy you presented. A alpha wolver with very high ASI, extra defense, and a jetpack would be much more difficult than the snarbolax. Also, you make a good point on how there is no pure-peircing armor to defend against final flourishes. If I'm fighting someone with a full-normal troika, I can just equip plate mail, that has full normal ressistance. However, the flourish lines deal only peircing, and there is no armor that has maximum peircing defense. The best you can do is jelly, but about a third of your defense is normal, and is wasted completely since the thorn blade dosen't deal any normal damage. So the thorn blade deals more damage and has more speed all at once.
Pretty obvious choice to make, a fast strong sword is better than a slow weak one.
Also, Zephyrgon, don't underestimate the charge attacks of brandish lines. Watch my nightblade charge attack demolish frozen players who have the red recon mark. Prevaling a striker with a snarble barb dosen't come up from below the screen give me a nasty jab to the crotch, slag guard style.
zephrigon, you are wrong.
3* brandish swords hit like a truck. In my experence the brandish line swords do more damage per hit, and there charges are prety much the best in lockdown (at least at t2 were they dont have to commpete with DA and GF), they just have less lateral motion. Its the lateral motion that gives barbs and flurishes their advantage in lockdown.
i lol'd at ''no deference against them''
lemme see if i got this: no t2 armor has full defence against anything (split resistances) (xcept plate mail that defends full normal)
no t2 weapon deals full damage that isnt normal EXCEPT flourishes and snarble barbs.
something wrong with this banana.
Hey Grievos!I remember your hatred thread on Alpha wolvers that dont need to be nerfed! See! --> http://wiki.spiralknights.com/File:AlphaWolverofPeace.jpg
They dont hurt us!
Now for a serious answer:
If I see you in Lockdown I will unleash Piercing with Barbarous Thorn Blade on you.
And to counter your argument, Twisted Snarble barb is 3* as opposed to the other reportedly OP weapons such as DIVINE AVENGER or GRAN FAUST.
Not to mention just wear full skolver. Still 2HKO? Then try defending the GF or DA with full Vog or Snarby. Still 2HKO? Then try guarding piercing with Skolver. Still 2HKO?Look i can go on for hours and tbh everything is basically a 2-3hit kill if you're a Striker and even still about 3-4 hits for a Guardian/Recon. You are screwed either way since you cant guard all damages and be invincible.
Why do you argue about a 3* in Lockdown?
EDIT:
Now to throw my thoughts in, Devilites and Alpha Wolvers are only hard when theres ANOTHER ENEMY TYPE in the battle as well (Kats, Gun Puppies).
Otherwise I've soloed and noticed its easier to defeat them when they are the sole monster type/family in the battle.
The twisted snarl barb may be overpowered, but hence, the second hit barely finds target, and the third hit doesn't hit at all in lockdown. I tried many computers, but the problem isn't the lag or glitch, it's the way the weapon is designed. The third hit only hits if it's the only hit used.
You need to have your forum license removed stop complaining you unskilled child
I'll make sure to stab you with my DTB
I LD, I got repeatedly killed by a guy with TSB. I applauded him many times and said this guy was good and sent him a freind request. Months later flamberges and snarbles attack me, I didn't say anything. The next game I used a SB and killed a crapton of people.
Don't get it? Just go with the flow and SB your way to victory!
IDK what your talking about I used the shock burst brandish for a long time (Before I sold it *sob*) and I was slaying TSB guys left and right and only had wolver armor! so stop whining and get you a shockburst.
@Grievos
Stop complaining please. There are many solutions to this, in order.
TOP 10:
10. Wear full Skolver/Dragon Scale.
9. Use a striker, easier to dodge them. Use a guardian even.
8.Get your own BTB.
7. Learn to dodge them, quite easy IMO.
6. Get a Gran Faust, and go *WHACK* when the try to hit you.
5. Don't go alone, get others to help you and gan up on them.
4. Run away from them.
3. Run around them until help comes, and let them go *WHACK* at them.
2. Don't play Tier 3 Lockdown.
And 1... Get better. :/
Now if you'd please stop complaining and acting sp childish (No offense, just seems like it. :/), I'd support you, and help you.
The whole point of having so many things in a game is to get you to work your way around your problem.
You run into a problem, find a way to beat it.
I got pwned by JK 9001+ times. Did I complain that he was too OP and demand that he be reduced to half size? Maybe a little. But then I revised my gear and strategy, and soloed him before he was changed.
Don't demand that the block in front of you move out of your way, just jump over it! It's more fun that way too. Try it sometime ^^
/Jumps over a bench to prove the point
"You run into a problem, find a way to beat it."
Exactaly, but there's just not a full peircing armor to combat a dark thorn blade. If I use jelly bands, opponents will just use damage trinkets.
Personaly, I just play T1 lockdown, without flourish lines or haze lines.
Shut up! You're being rude!
This whole topic is pointless. Just calm down. Oakgear is right.
I hate all you sticks you dare be mean to the mighty rock!
I can't be bothered to even awnser back with a snipe! You're immature.
we will hear what the masters have to say!
Again, why should I bother, I have better things to do other than a immature brat.
So you just need to get a snarble barb and upgrade it so you have a heavy advantage.
You should really lock this thread. I will watch,but not reply, to you comments so you loook stupid.
Have a nice evening!
@Orangeo: That's my point. Not every answer lies in the gear you use.
My suggestions:
Use a gun, coupled with striker or recon. Shoot from a distance (never the whole clip at a time, it'll slow you down and leave you vulnerable), then run/hide before he can get you, presuming he is also striker.
Use a Graviton/electron charge/bomb/vortex. Have a gun handy, with recon. Plant bomb. Gets stuck in bomb. Shoot him. bomb explodes. Hide. Reapeat or shoot him while hiding periodically. (again, never use the whole clip. Slows you down, leaves you vulnerable etcetc)
Team up. Pair up with a guardian, grab a powerful weapon, he attacks you, Guardian puts up his shield, smash him into the ground.
All else fails: Rally your whole team up to smash him.
Provided they listen anyway.
Edit: Or just do as all others do and get the weapon they use. Don't walk into a sniper fight with a pistol, get a sniper!
I just got a twisted snarble barb and im killing people
@Psychodestroyer
That does make sense, but it would still be easier to defend against, say, a gran faust. I was assuming you could apply an equal level of tactical-advantage to each weapon, but only a certian amount of armor advantage.
"Provided they listen anyway."
Haha! Nope.
Ah well.
Doesn't think to solve his own problems until he's caused others problems -_-
That was a nice definition for grievo xD. Also that little ruckus between grievo and atrum was very funny how atrum belittled grievo . "A alpha wolver with very high ASI, extra defense, and a jetpack would be much more difficult than the snarbolax". xD completely off topic but funny :3
That does make sense, but it would still be easier to defend against, say, a gran faust. I was assuming you could apply an equal level of tactical-advantage to each weapon, but only a certian amount of armor advantage.
Well, I suppose the advantage depends on a combination of everything. our gear, weapons, teammates co-operative effectiveness, and, well, how much your opponent pwns.
I mean, I have Dusker currently, so I can't really say much for switching between different armour sets for different advantages, and my gear is pretty much mediocre.
It just irks me a little when people whine about their problems instead of trying to find a way around it.
Kid: "Muuuum! Someone hacked my SK account and is stealing everything!!!"
Mum: "Then change your password before everything is gone!"
Kid: "But that would be the smart thing to do! I'll just email Support and ask them to give all my stuff back."
Support: "I'm sorry, but an account hacking is not our fault, and so therefore we cannot compensate you for your loss. Change your password or something."
Kid: ".../mails self. Stop hacking my account!" /Proceeds to beg everyone to help him track down this hacker and take back his stuff. Response is the same.
Everyone: "CHANGE YOUR PASSWORD!!!"
Kid: "...The whole world is against me...T_T"
Joke story over, but some people really don't look for a solution, they expect the solution to be given to them. Yeah, I know some solutions are harder to get than others, but some people don't even try. That's what really irritates me.
God helps those who first helps themselves etcetc (I'm not actually Christian, I'm just citing.
But I didn't say the wolver stuff, Orangeo did. I called him immature. Yet I hope this gets locked after my post. Though in my point of view, I used snarble in a construct lv and I just hated the thrust in a danger room. In GW, with FV(freeze) It worked like a charm. Though Psycho, Im a bomber with 2* and I havent though about a gun with GB, would it be fine with a sword?
I don't know about you guys... but I like cheese. It's pretty good.
I also like cheese. It goes great on tacos.
There's a difference between a trouble-maker and someone who is a complete and utter moron.
Unfortunately, I digress, you are the latter.
"God helps those who first helps themselves etcetc (I'm not actually Christian, I'm just citing."
Even the Devil may cite Scripture to suit his own purpose.
And I should know, I'm born in the year of the rat! :D
@Atrumvindex: Sorry, my knowledge of SK abbreviations is still a bit tacky. What does GW and GB mean? I can guess FV is Freezing vaporiser, but otherwise, I'm stumped.
EDIT: Could GB be graviton bomb? And do you mean it plus gun, or it plus sword?
In either case, here's what I'd do:
- Plant bomb. Charge sword. Bomb sucks in opponents. Release charge. Charge smacks all opponents who were sucked into the Graviton. (calibur line is good). This strategy if better for weapons with a formidable charge attack, but is a bit harder to secure your target. Secre them with the bomb, then hit them with it while they cant move.
- Plant bomb. Sucks in opponents. Fire all ya lazors at them. Before it runs out, plant another. Repeat. Again, this strategy just helps to keep your targets immobile, so you can hit them and they can't evade.
Tell me if this is for PvP strategy, of PvE. Cuz I may have to modify my explanation a bit depending.
Edit edit: @Bluedigit: *GASP* What are you implying... ^_- ?
@Psycho
That's what I was thinking when I first made my Graviton Bomb. But actually, the bomb is also very useful for keeping those dang Menders away from their patients and keeping Gremling Bombers in one place (preferably in a corner, where you can get in a Calibur charge :D)
As for PvP. People can still turn around. If you're going in with a calibur charge attack, expect to get killed. However, it is good for Recon, by setting a bomb down, cloaking, getting near them, then whacking them with a heavy Sword and retreating again.
I have been practicing my charge attacks in LD, its a lot about predicting how people move, I got some realy nice barb and sealed sword charges in yesterday. I am almost done heating my shock brandish so very soon I will have a third sword to smack folks with. Yay.
"Kid: "Muuuum! Someone hacked my SK account and is stealing everything!!!"
Mum: "Then change your password before everything is gone!""
Haha, happened to sirkibles.
Seems the best way to hit someone with a charge is to just come up from the bottom of the screen to me.
Anyhow, I sometimes play T2 pvp with a brute helm, dusker coat, heart pendant, and a twisted snarbe barb. I can agree that it is fair, but it's very simple and grey. I don't want T3 pvp to be everyone in full sklover with a dark thorn blade and as many sword and heart trinkets as possible! Now, that is an overstatment, but the fact that this is even being debated proves a point itself. A handful of people think gran faustsare underpowered, but those fourms aren't ussualy at the top of the list for obvious reasons.
Well I changed my password it seemed to work, but then again hes prolly using a cyper hack. O yeah and Bump. :3 I bumped it :P
I'm doing homework with cyphers and matricies, you don't really know how confusing they are. :U
Well, sometimes.
You just mean a random password guesser, that runs through each possible combination. You're pretty safe if your password is long. I'd think O_O.
cheese is good :D i love tacos,and no I am not taco lover.
CAUTION: FOLLOWING MESSAGE PROBABLY HAS ALMOST NOTHING TO DO WITH ORIGIONAL THREAD. THANK YOU.
my shockburst brandish destroys everyone so badly. noobs especially.
on sat-sun, I was doing lockdown. On the other team, there was a noob with no teir 2 gear except an autogun, which he kept charging.
I kept killing him. The funniest kill was when he marched out of his locker room with his autogun charged. fortunately, i happaned to be right where he came out of, with my shockburst charged.
noob: walk out
*1/4 second later*
me: unleash charge
noob: blasted back into locker room, dead.
whole play took only 1 second.
I'm ashamed to admit, however, that, somewhere else in the game, he killed me. =P
my super blast bomb is very good for mob battles. my team kept engaging the other team in ginormous mob battles, and I just kept bomb spamming. everyone on the other team kept taking so much damage. so fun.
peircing swords in LD = /die
I killed a guy wielding a piercing sword, and Shadownox said that that was the most epic moment ever in lockdown. =P
*too *too
*their
cool story bro, just not cool enough.