i am wondering if:
Nitronome
Valiance
Levi
any of those are good against VANADUKE?
my current WEPS:
Master Blast Bomb ( undead med.)
Master Blaster
Ascended Calibur
Avenger
nightblade (3*)
Grand flourish
VANA GEAR
Fri, 11/11/2011 - 17:30
Fri, 11/11/2011 - 19:27
#2
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Fri, 11/11/2011 - 19:29
#3
I've been told the Levi is
I've been told the Levi is good on the mask phases of the fight.
Sat, 11/12/2011 - 00:30
#4
I use my Levi on the mask
I use my Levi on the mask phases, since DA is too slow and sometimes I don't time well enough with the countdown (I tend to epically lag in that place) and get caught on fire.
The bomb, definitely not. Bombs (especially Blast bombs) really shine when there's more than just a couple of mobs around, and the DPS is severely lacking when you focus fire on one target. The charge time is just not worth it, not to mention the others in your party will hate you for the blue screen and the screen shaking.
Valiance would work for the body phases, but Blitz Needle is generally considered to be the best gun for him then. If you don't have the extra slot for Blitz (I think they're going to patch the Blitz-through-screen in FSC soon, since I was just there in the testing server and couldn't get it to work ;c), you can use Valiance if you use it as a general-purpose gun.
I've never tried it, but people have apparently used Polaris on Vana?
Sat, 11/12/2011 - 01:00
#5
@Kickthebucket
He is not "immune," he take normal damage from everything, but is weak to Piercing. Normal damage is good because the MASK PHASE is resistant to all damage types except normal, which does... normal damage. There are no enemies that are strictly immune to any type of damage that are currently in the game. Swarm turrets don't count, as they cannot be interacted with in any way.
Sat, 11/12/2011 - 01:33
#6
@Myllakka If I make it down
@Myllakka If I make it down to Vana one of these days, I'll be packing either a Gigawatt or a Polaris. I'll let you know how charred my corpse is after I try it. ;)
Sat, 11/12/2011 - 01:45
#7
Heh, I usually pack a Polaris
Heh, I usually pack a Polaris too, since I'm not too great of a gunslinger and tend to either miss with my Storm Driver or not have the ricochets hit. If I get a team who don't mind me doing random tests (FOR SCIENCE), maybe I'll pull mine out and try it out too. We can make it a competition to see who's crisper in the end. ;)
Sat, 11/12/2011 - 01:58
#8
The Polaris does nothing
The Polaris does nothing useful against Vanaduke, short of maybe the shock which can be pulled off with the Storm Driver in a much less annoying manner.
Sat, 11/12/2011 - 02:46
#9
on vanaduke u neeed
levi for mask phase (good to agro vanaduke in 1 phase too)
elemental sword (i use combuster) to kill slag guards and skeletons quickly
shiwermist 5* to freze vanaduke in 5th phase
blizz nedlle to kill vanaduke quickly
use grey owlite shield, with elemental and fire defense vanaduke with his firebals can charge trougth u and u can block it
armor : vog armor;)
Sat, 11/12/2011 - 07:16
#10
Don't use the Nitronome line
Don't use the Nitronome line anywhere if you're not solo. I don't think I've ever met anyone who likes playing with someone who has that bomb, it's a complete pain.
Valiance is a meh weapon. It's okay if you're just starting out and can't afford to get specialised weapons, but there's really no reason to be upgrading as high as 5*. Get an elemental gun for FSC. A lot of people favour the argent peacemaker or the polaris. I personally hate the polaris and would beg you not to get one, but everyone seems to want one. :[ I wield a storm driver and never go anywhere without it (yeah, even IMF and shock stratums). Alchemers are brilliant if you learn to use them effectively (i.e. use the ricochets correctly - you can one-shot or nearly one-shot anything weak to elemental with a well placed alchemer shot). I would definitely advise an alchemer; storm is my favourite, fire is going to be nothing but a weak prismatech in FSC; cryotech is useful (although I think the storm trumps it if you're running with someone who has a shivermist). If you're not interested in a status inflicting gun, the prismatech deals higher damage to compensate and that's also a very valid choice.
Hint, especially @Myllakka: if you use auto target, you're not often going to be able to use ricochets effectively. You need auto target off so you can aim into the middle of a mob or to the left of a monster (the ricochets have a tendency to all fly off to one side so if you shoot to the other side, most if not all of the ricochets will hit the monster even if it's a single monster).
Plenty of people use the leviathan for FSC and it's certainly good for the mask phase. It depends what you want to be gearing up for and how many weapon slots you use. I have four slots so I take a DVS purely for the mask rounds but if I had less slots, the DVS would be the first weapon I dropped. The DA or glacius or some other kind of elemental sword is more important, IMO. So it's up to you.
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Sat, 11/12/2011 - 11:53
#11
i only saw a nitrome once in
i only saw a nitrome once in FSC, and that guy was using it good, wasnt annoying at all, he knew where to place itand when
as for the best FSC gear, i would recommend Vog set, Grey Owlte Shield, DA, Polaris, Blitz and Shivermist
Sun, 11/13/2011 - 08:54
#12
i would actualy recomend
i would actualy recomend using a divine VEIL (because only it has damage bonus VS fiends) and the vog coat instead of the full armor
normal defence? check
shadow defence? check
fire defence? double check
ellemental defence? check
slag walkers do SHADOW damage AND can set you on fire but seeing both vog and the divine armor have fire resistance it's a breeze (believe me my friends with VOG take tons more damage)
for a shield you can eighter use an owlite or even a skelly shield (if the shadow attacks brake your armor so this is up to you) Crest of Almire also looks like a good shield but by the time you get it (you have to buy it with vana's tokens haha) you'll be so used to the other shield you won't need it.
Sat, 12/03/2011 - 12:38
#13
Great Vanaduke Gear
Hey, if you are going to be doing vanaduke, the absolute best equipment by far in my opinion would be:
Cap: Divine Veil (for shadow defense, and it has the same fire defence as vog)
Armour: Vog Cub Coat (for fire resist, and normal defence that Divine set lacks)
Shield: Id reccomend the Grey Owlite shield. (It has good fire defense, and good normal defence.) Another good choice is Volcanic Plate Shield.
Weapon #1 Id recomend, as anyone else would, to bring a Divine Avenger (for Knockback, and good swing range to keep enemies off you, good dps too)
Weapon #2 Something not many ppl would agree with, the Dread Venom Striker (for trojan backs, and great DPS vs Vana, first stage, and all mask phases
Weapon #3 Final Flourish, (for basicly everything, from trojan's to Slags to Vana. A good all around sword in FSC)
Weapon #4 Blitz Needle, (for Vanaduke's stages 3+5, the charge attack does lovely)
If you have already beaten Vana a number of times, and gotten a Fang of Vog, i would use it instead of Final flourish, its charge attack does great vs huge mobs, and Vanaduke. This also goes for Crest of Almier, That would be the best shield to use too.
As for trinkets, do CTR, ASI, or Fire/shadow resist :)
And thats basicly all you will need. Some beginners would rather have shivermist instead of Dread Venom, that would do okay as well, but not quite the most usefull edition. But yes, DVS is hard to master in FSC. Anway, thats what i would bring along :) Enjoy!
Sun, 12/04/2011 - 02:41
#14
My permanent FSC loadout.
My permanent loadout is as follows:
Vog Cub Cap (Snarbolax coat with a decent fire UV is better)
Vog Cub Coat (Snarbolax coat with a decent fire UV is better)
Barbarous Thorn Shield/Crest of Almire (Usually carry BTS. If my group is a pug or a relatively bad group, or if i solo, the Crest of Almire. the only elemental damage in fsc comes from the flamethrower puppies and duke's mask phase - IMO hardly a reason to carry owlite over crest)
Elite Slash Module x2
Divine Avenger (Mostly for the main part of FSC - although useful for taking down zombies in duke's fight)
Blitz Needle (for trojans and fighting duke phases 1, 3 and 5, this does more damage than any other weapon.)
Leviathan Blade (Very useful for slag guards, as well as duke's phases 2 and 4 - his mask phase resists everything except normal damage, and using charge attacks my group can down his mask with only one use of water.)
Shivermist buster / Polaris (Shivermist is very useful when our dedicated bomber goes down, or if you don't have a dedicated bomber. If you have someone who is always using one, Polaris is useful instead.)
My setup covers all the bases for FSC. I can effectively solo it (with relative ease), and I never find myself wanting a different weapon.
i use my DA even against vanaduke (but most people prefer levi because he's imune to everything but piercing) you can also use a piercing sword i guess