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Should I record a set of videos aimed to help new players? And give me ideas for them.

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Tue, 11/15/2011 - 08:39
Chris's picture
Chris

Being one of the oldest and most learned players in the game, I thought I might make a set of videos aimed to help out new players. Let me know what kind of videos you think I should upload.

I'm thinking my first video will explain what somebody should do after they get out of the starting camp, as far as how to get into tier 2 the fastest to begin farming jelly king.

Give me suggestions!

Tue, 11/15/2011 - 08:45
#1
Iamnoone's picture
Iamnoone
*comes in and giggles*

PORN!!!

Tue, 11/15/2011 - 08:51
#2
Aumir's picture
Aumir
Shield bumping

I think you should make it about the most important skill in the game, shield bumping. Shield bump like Jim-Dale in his Lumberbowl video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-vzsqKMZeo

Tue, 11/15/2011 - 08:52
#3
Silphius's picture
Silphius
Take items, the alchemy

Take items, the alchemy process (recipes), the auction house, how CE and crowns relate to one another and explain them. I'm finding myself explaining this quite often and perhaps the wiki could use some video tutorials.

Tue, 11/15/2011 - 09:02
#4
Sir-Sprocket's picture
Sir-Sprocket
I think when you just reached

I think when you just reached Haven you're immediate goal is not to reach the JK, unless you already know what you're doing anyways. If you really want to start from there I'd probably start with a video covering the basics. How to buy energy, many new players probably don't understand that you could post lower bids for CE without clicking the big buy 100 CE button. Or that you could buy smaller amounts from players.

Or some other things:
- How trading with players works (as in - don't get scammed)
- What those symbols in the arcade mean, how gates are constructed, how the gate map works.
- How the AH works (sorting items, not just looking at the next items to expire)
- What gear is good (should I buy 1 star gear? should I craft or buy? What do the different defense values mean?)

Well and then there's combat of course.
- Using the shield at all.
- shield bumping.
- use remedy capsules. Well, maybe not that much of a problem in tier 1.
- focus on the healers if you can't really cut through the enemies fast.
- don't get cornered, kite the enemies.

I'd only go to the more advanced lessons after that. Then again that just might be too much work to cover all. :>

Tue, 11/15/2011 - 09:15
#5
Juances's picture
Juances
Something new players don't get:

Spawn management, specially on arenas.

Tue, 11/15/2011 - 09:58
#6
Xombie's picture
Xombie
Snarby & Tokens

All a new player needs to know at first is which gate to go to (Snarby) and how to get Tokens and where to spend them for the token upgrades. Run Snarby over and over.

It gives them a sword and a shield to work towards. By the time they have it. Most of the rest of the knowledge is learned and they have enough mats/crowns to start making T2 gear.

*edit:

This link: http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/10297

and the wiki (which is in that link as well). The wiki is where its at.

Also this thread should prob be in the "New Recruits" section of the forums, due to its subject matter. The new players may well give you good ideas concerning what they need as well.

Tue, 11/15/2011 - 11:45
#7
Chris's picture
Chris
Not going to go over common

Not going to go over common sense things.

Tue, 11/15/2011 - 13:03
#8
Evilduck's picture
Evilduck
^I really think you should

^I really think you should given the quality of lots PUGs. You'll need to go over spawn management and don't-bump-zombies-into-other-people's-faces because people can be plain stupid. Are you thinking complete newbs who aren't going to know where the AH is or newbies who play but want to get past the hack n slash that is T1?

Tue, 11/15/2011 - 13:36
#9
Evilduck's picture
Evilduck
I think anyone who doesn't

I think anyone who doesn't need to be taught about spawn management and told how not to screw team mates over are the sort of people who are going to figure everything out for themselves anyway so I definitely think that's the kinda things you want to be mentioning. I think the important thing to get across is that, unless you're running solo, you really need to have good team awareness because if you don't, your team will be carrying you. Or you're all going to suck.
I've had people wipe an entire party in arenas because they ran into trouble and changed directions - leading half the mob into everyone else and getting everyone sandwiched. Their excuse was "but I was going to die" to which I say "then you should have died instead of killing EVERYONE" and I really think that's the kind of thinking a lot of people lack. HP is essentially shared.

Wed, 11/16/2011 - 07:30
#10
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Whitelancer
Hi

All the boss fight video guides are already here with someother depth guides like the Jelly King Palace depths and someother useful stuffs...

>>> m.youtube.com/profile?gl=US&hl=en&client=mv-google&user=KyrosQuickfist <<<

Try a gear guide.

Wed, 11/16/2011 - 08:03
#11
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Kalaina-Elderfall
I've never looked on YouTube

I've never looked on YouTube for Spiral Knights stuff. I also never looked on the forums when I was a newbie. Wikis are far and away better than videos and forums so I wouldn't waste your time.

That said, things that new players need to know are mainly money. My biggest newbie mistake was spending too much time in the Bazaar rather than the Town Square such that I didn't find the auction house and actually bought a piece of equipment for 7500 crowns. Here's some things I'd cover:

- Mist and CE are basically the same thing.
- CE and crowns are basically the same thing.
- Materials and crowns are basically the same thing. How to use the auction house and why the auction house is the most important part of the game.
- Some floors are more profitable than others. Any floor that earns more than 650 CE basically didn't cost you any energy to run.
- The profitable floors are arenas and boss areas.
- How the gate maps work, waiting for elevators to change, and how to make sure you get to arenas.
- You should never be taking damage. Dodging and shielding are everything.
- At 1-2* your equipment doesn't matter much, but beyond that you should have 5* plans.
- What armor is best (offense > defense in a game where you should not be taking damage)
- Make friends with anyone who talks to you in a remotely intelligent way because they will probably be competent and you should adventure with them.
- Try to join a guild to get more friends. If you're like me and basically got no guild invites ever then use the forum and pick one that sounds good.

Once a player's got a handle on all that, they don't need any hand-holding about jelly farming or anything like that. Let the newbies enjoy the early game at their own speed, get acquainted with the enemies, and do jelly when they get there. In my opinion, the longer a player goes before they start farming jelly, the better, provided that they're enjoying the game rather than trying to farm regular clockworks floors or something.

Wed, 11/16/2011 - 08:32
#12
Delvro
You should ask Corny to do a

You should ask Corny to do a Lockdown strategy video so that they can learn from the best.

Wed, 11/16/2011 - 12:49
#13
Evilduck's picture
Evilduck
I've never looked on YouTube

I've never looked on YouTube for Spiral Knights stuff. I also never looked on the forums when I was a newbie. Wikis are far and away better than videos and forums so I wouldn't waste your time.
That's a little close minded. Youtube is the first place I go to when I start playing a new game or am considering playing. Actually I didn't touch the wiki for anything except recipe info. Any gameplay tips I didn't get from friends ingame or gain my experience were found on youtube and the forums so it's not fair to say a video would be a waste of time just because you wouldn't use it.

Wed, 11/16/2011 - 13:10
#14
Zinqf-Post
Hm...

I know I made a guide on Jelly Palace D15 / D16, Royal Jelly, and Roarmulus Twins. And the guide was done in 2* gear to demonstrate that tier 2 content can be done smoothly and fairly quick even with the absolute bare minimum for gear...and mostly done because the quality of Guides in this game is terrible lol.

D15 Jelly Palace 2* Guide
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dybgGwD8EmI

D16 Jelly Palace 2* Guide
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gfIFOsviUo

D17 Jelly Palace 2* Boss Guide
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4boOeuDkxK4

D17 IMF 2* Boss Guide
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55OjknaHykY

I was gonna do FSC in 4* gear, but there's already a run of a player using 5* weapons with 0* armor and 5* trinkets doing it...not sure if using the bare minimum to enter T3 (4* helm, chest, weapon, shield, no trinkets) would be a better guide or not.

Aside from that, the only real guide I was looking to put out for this game was one introducing new players to the economy of Spiral Knights so they can play most or all of this game for free. Maybe this is the important place to start Chris?

Wed, 11/16/2011 - 15:05
#15
Kalaina-Elderfall's picture
Kalaina-Elderfall
@Evilduck I stand corrected.

@Evilduck I stand corrected. Whenever I play a game I always look to see if it has a wiki. The reason for that is that you can search them for the information you want. You can't search videos and watching a video requires you to wait to find out what you need to know and you usually have to listen to somebody talk which is annoying because most people have bad voices. But if you look for videos first then I'm sure there are plenty of other people who do as well. To each his own.

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