So, nobody is manipulating the price, right, right?
Manipulating the ce price, proof here
Sat, 11/19/2011 - 06:30
Sat, 11/19/2011 - 07:34
#2
If you've been following the
If you've been following the news and events in the SK universe, you should have a fairly good idea of what these bids are and who they might belong to.
Regardless, what's the point of this thread altogether? I find no entertainment or informative value in this?!
Sat, 11/19/2011 - 07:42
#3
Its to to show all those
Its to to show all those "smart" people who keep saying "stfu" on CE rant topics and keep instisting that "market lives with its own life, there are no manipulations" that they are wrong. Markets "life" is manipulated. OP players with unknown whereabouts are adjusting it to their needs ignoring majority of players and hurting new players mostly.
Sat, 11/19/2011 - 09:55
#4
This is not evidence of
This is not evidence of manipulating the market.
This is evidence that there are people who have yet to get their money back from the million+ crown bids from the previous super rare accessory hunt in the Auction House. We've been seeing these really large blocks ever since then, and it's the really obvious answer as to why this is happening over "manipulation conspiracy theories", especially since you'd never find this "evidence" before the end of that AH auction (or at the time when the crown/CE duping glitch was occurring). In fact, I'd dare you to if you really are so adamant about your theories.
If anything, we have recent evidence already to the contrary that manipulation doesn't work:
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/33812
We keep going over this every 2-4 weeks...
Sat, 11/19/2011 - 10:05
#5
There is no way to manipulate
There is no way to manipulate the CE prices unless you somehow make people no longer want their CE, or make people want tons more CE. One person, even with MILLIONS OF CE, cannot do this.
Please take an economics course or something...
Sat, 11/19/2011 - 10:09
#6
@OP, you don't understand how
@OP, you don't understand how manipulating the market works.
You do not see the offers of people manipulating the market.
Sat, 11/19/2011 - 10:10
#7
Ty Kwizzy
Ty Kwizzy
Sat, 11/19/2011 - 10:22
#8
Yeah, right
Yeah, right, like no one can buy the 20000 CE option, sell them and then put a wall. Try harder to defend the elitists that put price walls. And I have already seen posts of many of you saying that they have got lots of crowns for "little things" like rolling UVs.
Oh, but Kwizzy already stated that he was part from the people who "estabilize" the market. So we don't see the people who manipulates though he stated he does it in another topic.
Sat, 11/19/2011 - 10:25
#9
There is no way to manipulate
There is no way to manipulate the CE prices
That depends on what you mean by "manipulate". Everyone who buys/sells/lists orders on the market will change the price point a little bit in one direction or the other. The larger the transaction, the larger the change. I'm amazed at the number of people who think that $20 worth of CE is somehow "huge", or even $250 worth. It isn't.
I put a sell order ro 200 blocks of 100CE onto the market a few days ago. I watched it marched right through in about 30 minutes time. Even this block of (apparently) 1000 blocks of 100CE can be marched through quickly, *IF* the market price is headed down. If the market price is headed up, well, even 10 blocks is a "wall".
Sat, 11/19/2011 - 10:30
#10
That is also true
That is also true, I have seen walls even disappear in a matter of seconds, though that may be the action of someone with many crowns (p2p player) who wants to get back CE. I also know that there is actually benevolent people who try to truly estabilize the market, not everyone is evil if is a p2p player... just thought I had to point that out.
Sat, 11/19/2011 - 10:35
#11
Aumir, I suggest your read
Aumir, I suggest your read this topic again:
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/33812
Kwizzy was only reporting of someone else who bought 100,000 CE that couldn't even change the outcome of the market. I saw it myself first hand, and also saw it was a time for me to finally trade in my excess crowns, and I'm sure a ton of people followed suit. The wall that someone with 100k CE could do had done nothing against the population of this game with millions of excess crowns that see CE as more important.
Sat, 11/19/2011 - 10:35
#12
Thats not against rules....
Thats not against rules....
Sat, 11/19/2011 - 10:50
#13
Notice how nobody complains
Notice how nobody complains whenever the cost of crowns relative to CE goes up?
Come on, folks. As long as people value CE more than crowns, cost of CE will always go up.
Sat, 11/19/2011 - 10:57
#14
The block is 900 something
The block is 900 something and by a single player as it disappears in a single moment as soon as they start attacking the wall, it then waits a bit lower while the price climbs again :D It uses existing bids at that price point as shield so its a bit hard to chip away unless there was someone targeting them.
Yeah, nobody is manipulating the price. Right, right.
http://www.bestweekever.tv/bwe/images/2011/03/nod.gif