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Amber Skull Gate Depth 17 - Ice Maul Arena: Cadaverous Clash

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Tue, 11/22/2011 - 07:26

Paweu

Cadaverous Clash right? Right, so it will be either Undead or Fiends since the game likes to swap around enemies dealing the same type of damage around in Clockwork Tunnels/Arenas. So, since there are arsenal stations put in the game who needs 2 weapons slots, right? Right. So lets go with Barbarous Thorn Blade instead of Divine Avenger as they both work well on both enemy types but BTB is better at Fiends who provide more danger and Polaris for the Mechaknights and turrets, got covered all that i can meet, haha, so easy. Damn, arsenal stations made the game so easy. As for the armor and helmet i'll just equip the Snarb Cap and Vog Cub Coat, use Crest of Almire as my shield, get one Elite Quick Strike Module (because i'm really attached to VH ASI and can't stand it being higer or lower than that) and one Elite Trueshot Module to comply my Polaris. What could possibly go wrong, right? All set then, lets kick this party off!

(10 minutes later)

Whoop, whoop, so easy, haha oh wow. Lets enter this 3rd subarena. All goes well, then comes the 8 turrets spawn - when i saw that, i couldn't believe my own eyes; is it an illusion? Did the game mistakingly loadthe wrong models? It has to be, here i come with my BTB and wow, i do only grey numbers. No, this can't be possible... no... they are real. The horror that has spawned to my surprise, was real. It was no illusion. In the confusion and the awful visibility of the battlefield i had fallen. Remember kids, evil can spawn all kinds of evil especially when you are being too careless and delusional about Arsenal Stations making the game easier and rendering weapon slots and armor mixing useless.

TL;DR
Game adjustments will be made accordingly to any significant change (this time its Arsenal Stations) so stuff like difficulty will be still there, just in a form of a nasty surprise (another example: Thunder Fist Arena - Robo Rampage had Quicksilvers spawn) so its safe to assume that monster spawns will be corelated to the monster theme and also status theme (Polars on Ice Maul Arena: Cadaverous Clash and Quicksilvers on Thunder Fist Arena: Robo Rampage) so no, weapon slots aren't useless and mixing armors is certainly viable.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 07:42

Juances

Turrets always get mixed.

Turrets always get mixed. Even before the arsenal update.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 07:46

Paweu

"Turrets always get

"Turrets always get mixed."
Provide a picture of a Howlitzer outside of Cadaverous Clash/Fiendish Fray then, pretty please.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 08:21

Juances

Tell a Gm to check my

Tell a Gm to check my reports, I notified this countless of times. What I'm saying, this isn't new.
Arenas don't always spawn what they are supposed to since I started playing the game months ago.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 10:40

Asthix

Hmm

Technically its two waves of four but I don't think I've been in a room 3 that hasn't had turrets (or polyps) in a long long time. I assume they're in every 3rd room in arenas...

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 11:00

Paweu

@Asthix

You provided nothing but some tidbits of information, i can go as far as assuming that you only were frequenting Beastly Brawl and Slimey Showdowns. I won't deny that Gun Puppies could spawn in the place of a potential Polyp or Howlitzer (so in all arenas, since they added Howlitzers and Polyps to the game) but never the reverse (Howlitzer in Beastly Brawl/Slimey Showdown/Wrench Warfare/Robo Rampage or Polyp in Fiendish Fray/Cadaverous Clash/Mechanized Mile/Wrench Warfare) before the update
And of course, there will always be turrets there, not denying that either.
@Juances
Nice excuses.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 11:02

Bluedigit

Probably just a bug in the

Probably just a bug in the model.

I've seen it happen as well with Gun Puppies spawning in supposed Fiendish Fray arenas, and normal polyps/Puppies/Howlitzers spawning in a specific status arena. (e.g. poison, shock, fire.)

I've never seen it happen with Polyps and Howlitzers spawning in the place of Gun Puppies.

Maybe Gun Puppies are the "Default" choice in turret selection?

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 11:04

Juances

What do you want me do? it

What do you want me do? it does not happen all the time, but i swear i saw howls in wrench warfare.
I don't see pics on your post anyways so why should i provide one?

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 11:15

Paweu

"Maybe Gun Puppies are the

"Maybe Gun Puppies are the "Default" choice in turret selection?"

Thats how it always been since they added Howlitzers and Polyps, instead of one those a theme-variant Gun Puppy could spawn. And no, it was no model bug, i saw grey numbers pop out when i used my Barbarous Thorn Blade on them.

@Juances
Because your excuses are really poor, like "Tell a Gm to check my reports" - seriously? Do you really think bug reports go to GMs?

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 12:12

No-Thanks

Zelda

u were smart enough to pick a dmg type other than piercing, yet u dont mention using it or even attempting to use it

idk what ur assuming or knowing about arena themes, but obviously the majority of players including me either doesnt know and/or doesnt give a damn

not sure what to think of this, its neither a discussion nor a troll attempt. according to the thread title and the way the 1st post is written(like a little story of an incident), maybe it belongs in here. the wiki would be a nice place too or maybe a blog..

anyway, thers nothing to discuss, im just curious what kind of responses ud expect considering the way u react to the responses uve gotten so far..

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 12:50

#10

Paweu

@No-Thanks

The easy to read version is the TL;DR.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 12:58

#11

Sypsy

Weren't you going to use the

Weren't you going to use the polaris vs turrets anyway. So if polyps spawned.... you're in the clear right?

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 13:04

#12

Geekfox

The REAL TL;DR

Never stand in the center prior to turrets spawning.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 13:05

#13

Chris

Dude I'm selling you... Karma

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 13:13

#14

No-Thanks

Zelda

#10 ive been aware of that before i posted #9

#13 lol.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 13:47

#15

Paweu

@Geekfox In case you've

@Geekfox
In case you've missed the turrets that spawned were Polyps, those have a 360 degree vision, no matter where you stand (in my case i was in bottom right corner when they spawned) you will have at least 3 to 4 Polyps sending spikes to you. They are also barely visible when you combo them with the freeze theme particles/floor textures.
@Sypsy
Pure elemental guns deal to slimes/fiends 2/3 of the damage they would deal to a construct/undead, and like i said, i was in a corner. Out of the 4 aggroed the 2 closests ones were not far enough for the shots to expand so the 2/3 became a little bit more than 1/2. I have had also a dead guildie in my party who after that wave had the disconnected icon over his head (he said he had network problems after he came back) so the monsters had more health, it was impossible to go berserk and just kill fast any Polar fast, not with the puny damage i was dealing, freeze locked me three times before i ran out of capsules, not to mention my shield broke after 3 hits. Any more inquiries?

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 15:56

#16

Sypsy

No more questions sir!

Ah yes, I agree. A sword is helpful to take out the two closest turrets, then take your time using the gun.
I passed that wave of polyps with the help of a DA... so if I had to think back and imagine myself without it****... not so fun. =\

At that point, you invite someone who a) wants FSC access to bypass the 500 crown fee or b) has a pass and doesn't mind jumping in midway.

****EDIT: I also has a FF & Polaris, so it was very similar to you.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 15:14

#17

Bluedigit

@Sypsy Actually, the

@Sypsy
Actually, the Leviathan blade is quite good for ALL turrets. They're not mobile and don't get knocked back, so in lower T2 you can easily do 450+ damage.

And then quickly run away to charge again for a different turret.

Although I hate how Polyps can see you no matter where you are.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 15:55

#18

Sypsy

Whoosh

Except he had two slots, and neither was a levi.

How did you...

I don't even. Why are you even.. Did you even read the thread?

PS. Elemental swords are great against all turrets as well since they do bonus to two types and normal to one type.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 18:00

#19

Geekfox

東方弾幕～ Art of Dodging

@Paweu

This is the part where you diagonally move a foot to avoid curtains of spike projectiles. Polyps make me excited. :v

Wed, 11/23/2011 - 07:31

#20

Juances

a pic for you

HEY ROBO RAMPAGE; CURRENT TWINS GATE
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/13/spiral20111123112003.png/

not a howl, but a polyp got mixed so...

Wed, 11/23/2011 - 08:02

#21

Paweu

Well, no ship Sherlot. You

Well, no ship Sherlot. You were claiming this happened before the update, this does not prove it in any way. Shovel comes up the chimney.

Wed, 11/23/2011 - 08:08

#22

Juances

The joke is on you, post

The joke is on you, post #5

"I won't deny that Gun Puppies could spawn in the place of a potential Polyp or Howlitzer (so in all arenas, since they added Howlitzers and Polyps to the game) but never the reverse"

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