Spiral Knights - Best helm/gear for FSC

Best helm/gear for FSC

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Mon, 11/28/2011 - 15:24

Boringsmasher

someone told me divine veil, but i cant see anything that does elemental damage in FSC (unless im being [a nitwit])

is it worth getting DV anyway for shadow lair usage? or fallen crown (normal+shadow seems best, but no stun resistance)

ATM im using:
Mad bomber helm with fire rez medium (negates fire res pentalty from it) but im going to swap it out as its useless atm (only use 1 bomb and it already has high CTR)
Armour of the fallen with 2 crappy UVS, i like this for the fire resistance and gives nice defenses.
and Barbarous thorn shield but considering switching this for volcanic plate shield (however i wont be doing FSC forever, so not sure if it would have use after that)

Mainly im a bomber in fsc and CC while others kill, so what other bomb could be useful too?
i heard poison stops vana's orbs spawning but i cant see it being useful anywhere else
maybe shock bomb? combined with freeze bomb it could be useful, or even stun bomb?

opinions?

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 15:36

Fauxhownd

Vog Cub is one of the best

Vog Cub is one of the best armors for FSC. Oilers, Red Rovers, Vanaduke himself, and even Slags cause elemental damage (though Slags mostly hit for Shadow, which is also helpful to have defense for, but not mandatory). Divine Veil works good in its place too, but if you're using Divine Avenger, the ASI from Vog Cub will help you more.

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 16:15

Theirillusion

Vog cub is the most used due

Vog cub is the most used due to its sword ASI combined with having elemental and fire res.

list of elemental dmg in fsc + vana that come to mind:

- fire. (Caused by fire hazards, slag walker, shadow fire, oiler on fire, fire orbs (vanaduke), turrets)

- fire hazards

- shadow fire

- rocket turret, flame turrets

- vanaduke mask + its projectiles

- vanadukes fire orbs + fire attack in 5th phase

tip: dont use divine veil in fsc, normal defence is more important than shadow + shock.

list of normal dmg in fsc + vana that come to mind:

- vanadukes mace

- slag guards

- trojans

- spike wheels

- i think slag walkers do shared dmg shadow and normal

- some other shared dmg normal + X maybe

edit: if u wanna go veil do so, any gear can be a success. But trojan hits are gonna hurt.

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 16:06

Dark-Fantasy

Divine Veil

People use the Divine Veil because it has dmg bonus against Fiends. I see a bunch of my friends use it and I wonder why... Do they hate trojans in FSC that much?

Vog Cub would be best to use because swinging a fast Divine Avenger helps. Slags probably cause elemental damage because of their breath.

Armor of the Fallen is another good choice but I rarely see them that much. It maybe from the cause of the penalty against Fiends.

I suggest sticking with the freezing bomb if you are cooperating with your team. I have seen people use the Radiant Sun Shards against vanaduke when they solo but know if it is really effective to use.

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 16:13

Boringsmasher

i dont really want or like

i dont really want or like vog, everyone uses it and i refuse to :P
also as i said im mostly a bomb user, though i do use DA and BTB if necessary.

DV seems like it would be useful for shadow lairs as of curse resistance aswell.

ALSO: is it worth it to upgrade my vile striker to dread venom? i already have lvl 10 4* one. It seems quite useful for killing vana's mask phases but otherwise im not sure.

Cheers.

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 16:22

Giannii

The armor of the fallen will

The armor of the fallen will do good on FSC (not for use on ufsc though), just keep in mind the cons of it.
Deadshot or Heavenly set with max fire uvs will be optimal in both fsc and ufsc.
Vog or any volcanic set will do great in fsc.
Divine Veil plus vog coat will do good in both fsc and ufsc, although won't be optimal.

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 16:24

Theirillusion

you are right about dvs being

you are right about dvs being good against mask. if u mainly use bombs, vog may not be ideal. and since u already have high uv ctr i recommend making fallen set. u have fallen armor already and full sets tend to be better in defence. (one elemental+two shadow+one normal= good shadow def, and lame normal and elemental def)

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 16:52

Boringsmasher

im not that rich so i cant

im not that rich so i cant have diff sets for lots of stuff, and already have fallen armour so not sure if its a good idea to get fallen crown aswell (no dmg to fiends ftw)

if i get divine veil then i have shadow + normal armour (fallen) normal + pierce shield (barbarous) and elemental + shadow helm (DV) and gives me nice mixed resistances.

anyway, it looks horrible :P lucky i have mad bomber mask for costume!
and thought on bombs?

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 17:47

Myllakka

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Since you're a bomber, I'd switch that BTS for an Owlite or a shadow shield (VPS is okay too, but IMO making this shield solely for FSC isn't really worth it). BTS doesn't have as much health, not many monsters do piercing damage down there, and since that sword bonus is mostly wasted on you, the Owlite would work well--it's better on Vana than shadow shields too.

As for bombs, Shiver is a must, which I assume you already have. I'd say take Voltaic and alternate between Shiver and it. The zombies take shock damage, and while it does break the ice, you can drop Shivers fast enough that they wouldn't really move. Stagger is pretty useless since zombies are already quite slow, and while Venom Veiler is more useful than Stagger, I don't personally like it since poison doesn't do any damage. You can probably keep two statuses running on all zombies, and I'd pick freeze and shock over, say, freeze and poison. If you're running 4 slots, one of those should definitely be a sword (preferably DA so you can have projectile ability) and the last is up to you. A gun could be useful, but if you want to stick with bombs, a Vortex bomb can be fun with Brandish charges. You can always use Vortex --> Shiver so that the zombies are in a very nice clump, too.

Tue, 11/29/2011 - 03:16

Mbcscp

my current setup and a question

weapons
> Divine Avenger: vh ASI + h CTR
> Blitz Needle: vh CTR + low Contruct
> ShiverMist: vh CTR
> Argent Peacemaker: vh ASI

Shield
> Creat Of Almire: max ELEMENTAL + med NORMAL
> Barbarous Thorn Shield: med SHADOW

my current armor/helm setup
> Divine Veil: max NORMAL + low CURSE
> Vog Cub Coat: max NORMAL
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think my weapons are solid but armor not so...

so what armor/helm should i have for FSC and then for uFSC ?

Tue, 11/29/2011 - 06:38

#10

Kickthebucket

@Mbcscp i don't think you

@Mbcscp i don't think you can find anything better for FSC then that... i use the same but i DO NOT have uv's and it works great for me (fire status only lasts about 2 or 3 seconds) if it's not working for you, you are just getting hit to much xD

also for damage types search the wiki on FSC monsters (and for sl FSC)

Tue, 11/29/2011 - 08:27

#11

Kombatkamote

Argent

is it worth getting an argent for FSC?

like a loadout of Levi, shiver and argent good enough? :)

Tue, 11/29/2011 - 14:46

#12

Boringsmasher

Thx guys, i think ill go for

Thx guys, i think ill go for divine veil (just trying to make/find a good magic hood T.T), stick with my fallen armour and keep my BTS for now.

Will try and get the lightning bomb as i was thinking of that too, spamming 2 freeze bombs a second gets boring.

Tue, 11/29/2011 - 15:16

#13

Slayzz

Vog cub armor was custom made

Vog cub armor was custom made for FSC it seems. You will take the most damage from shadow fire, which is elemental. But since you are not rich (I most certainly am not either), then make sure to get something with normal defense. If you enter Jelly Palace with divine set, you're screwed.
My suggestion is Vog cub coat + Dread Skelly Helm (Both start at 2*, so fire UVs should he not that hard to find for those alchemy lines). Has good elemental and shadow defense in addition to normal, and it looks pretty decent. If you avoid fire, you will be fine.

Ps: Having both VH ASI and H CTR on a weapon probably means you spend way too much time playing this game.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 10:00

#14

Negroidamus

FSC

im the same way that i refuse to use anything wolver, everyone and their mother has a vog set.... so i went with dragon scale instead, yeah its piercing instead of normal. but it works fine in FSC because the only thing im really worried about is Fire dmg, and it gives you the same fire res that vog would.
and i use Voltaic Tempest in FSC it absolutely owns zombies. if youre a mad bomber and have VT and Shivermist you'll be useful to anyone. isnt there a mad bomber set that has fire res?? if there is get that.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:22

#15

Boringsmasher

bomb set with fire rez is

bomb set with fire rez is volcanic bomber, already got mad bomber helm and rather get something else or just use my mad bomber instead of a lower bonuses bombset imo.

although not much difference, volcanic is pretty good. only thing is it doesnt have bomb dmg ++.
MEH, mad bomber like a boss.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:15

#16

Arvandor

Divine Veil gives shadow and

Divine Veil gives shadow and fire resist, along with being the difference between being able to one-shot Trojans or not with a Blitz Needle charge, which can be handy. Especially since I tend to gun more than anything in FSC, so the lack of ASI from vog cub helm doesn't affect me. Then I wear Vog Cub coat purely for its defensive values =P

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