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The Theory of Ragecrafting

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Thu, 12/08/2011 - 23:32
Etendue's picture
Etendue

As you might know, ragecrafting refers to crafting large quantities of items in hopes of obtaining UVs(Unique Variants). It may seem pointless, but… it’s actually quite profitable. But without anyone telling newbies about it, I don’t imagine you guys will just “find out” somehow. Anyway,

The theory works like this:
1. Choose a good ragecrafting item (e.g. brandishes, wolver coats, wolver caps). Good ragecrafting items are items which will be useful with a wide variety of UVs.
2. Bulk buy materials for that item for cheap prices. Search around on the forums, or in the trade channel.
3. Craft said item (I’ll use the brandish as an example)
From my calculations (assuming that you bought the brandish materials for 500 crowns total), you will pay: 400 crowns+50 energy (4000 crowns)+ 500 crowns = 4900 crowns.
You will have a 1/10 chance of getting an UV, so this will be 49000 crowns on average before getting any UV. This may seem unprofitable, and that using 20000 crowns on the variant machine may be a better choice… but until CE prices rise to 5k or more, variant tickets will have no advantage.
4. Sell UV’d items. For the other items, craft them into 3 star items. 3 star items tend to sell for good prices, allowing you to approximately break even on your costs. You also get a 1/10 UV chance here.
As a result, the actual cost before getting a UV on your brandish will be about 49000/2=24500, and this INCLUDES the chance of getting those awesome double or triple UVs.
Using the variant machine for ONE UV: 4900 + 20000=24900 crowns, which is quite a bit worse than ragecrafting.

Ragecrafting is fun, and is a great way to satisfy your urges to gamble for money. If you know how to do it, you’ll definitely get a profit. Have fun ragecrafting!

~Etendue

Fri, 12/09/2011 - 00:25
#1
Sinistermackz's picture
Sinistermackz
Gambling is still gambling

Gambling is still gambling :/

there's no guarantee on getting a UV in 10 crafts

Fri, 12/09/2011 - 03:59
#2
Stavrosg's picture
Stavrosg
Wrong!

You don't ragecraft with CE, it's a waste.
You "ragecraft" with ME only, meaning 2 brandishes/22 hours with a total cost of 400-1000cr (depending if you farmed or bought the materials) and hoping for a good UV. If you want to craft more, then you should create multiple accounts and buy CE (with real money that is) at least once from all but one to separate their mist, then log in, craft, sell/buy, logout, repeat with the next account and so on.

Fri, 12/09/2011 - 06:27
#3
Juances's picture
Juances
Also

You can sell the failed products of ragecrafting to recover a little.

400 crowns+50 energy (4000 crowns)+ 500 crowns - 1300 recover from auctioning = 3600 crowns
That is with your numbers, I'd take backthe nergy, like Stavrosg Said and you don't lose anything!

That's if you find buyers! but what if you don't, so you juts sell it to NPC vendor?
2* items are worth 750cr to strangers
400+500-750= you only lose 150cr

Sat, 12/10/2011 - 02:24
#4
Etendue's picture
Etendue
I'm talking about f2p

I'm talking about f2p ragecrafting. not everybody spends money on this game, you know

EDIT: Ragecrafting typically does not refer to using multiple accounts to craft. That would be called multi crafting, or alt farming. At least, those were the terms initially used for such things.

Sat, 12/10/2011 - 09:21
#5
Juances's picture
Juances
Even then, you still forgot

Even then, you still forgot to substract the reselling of bad items. And f2p ragecrafting can still use mist.

Sat, 12/10/2011 - 11:06
#6
Stavrosg's picture
Stavrosg
In that case ...

In that case, ragecrafting with ce is even more wasteful if this ce is bought with grinding. A full RJP run barely makes 100ce and you can do at most 2 per day, if you're lucky to find friends to call you at the terminal to skip the unprofitable 3rd stratum. If you want to waste 2 hours of your time to craft 4 useless items, be my guest, but it is definitely not worth it.

Interesting note: A friend of mine is ragecrafting (on mist) freezing vaporizers. after 126 crafts, he has yet to come by a useful / well-selling UV. I've crafted more than 100 wover coats and about the same number of brandishes. The "best" I've got was beast high.

Sun, 12/11/2011 - 03:33
#7
Etendue's picture
Etendue
First.Proper Jelly King runs

First.

Proper Jelly King runs involve inviting at the terminal. It has always been thus. (jelly king run thread, guilds, having a wide friends list...)

Second

The haze bomb update was absolutely INFURIATING. I wanted to get a ctr vhigh for a reasonable price, and that's impossible now.

Third

It's a pity that only 1 uv type is worth having on freezing vaporizers, unless you plan on soloing a lot.

Fourth

You either sell failed products to friends, newbies, sell on the AH, or (as you probably should) craft to 3 star and then sell. The market is quite large for 3 stars, but supply is much lower, which will let you get a much better price for your stuff.

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