Shrubmoney ~ is it worth it?
Fri, 01/13/2012 - 03:45
There was a thread a while back about someone collecting data on crowns/heat drops in floors and generally which maps were more worth the cash etc.
What I've come to wonder lately is simple; assuming you're not worrying about energy costs (let's say you're on an ele pass, or have ME, or are making enough to buy back the ce regardless), are the crowns from shrubs worth the time it takes to run around and collect them all?
I mean, I know there's a chance for higher crowns, but the liklihood is so, so small it's not even worth considering.
Like, running around your map, you get your dropped crowns. But then stopping and tearing up every bush and bookcase for a mere single crown each (maybe!) is adding very little to the runs total payout. In the time it takes you to collect them all, you could have moved onto the next floor. Over the course of an entire tier (especially ifyou go through aurora isles or wolver dens) this can add a susbtantial amount of time to your runs, potentially setting you back floors at a time, ifyou're putting a few solid hours into the game and running continuously.
May see like a stupid question, but when you consider that you're stopping for at least a couple of minutes per floor to collect essentially 10/15 crowns, is it really worth the time? Is it just a false economy, when time is the only factor?
And yes, to reiterate, I'm aware that if you're paying elevator costs and/or time is irrelevant, then the shrubmoney is certainly worth the time, making the most of your limited runs, but that's not the circumstance involved here.
Anyone tested this out before, or wondered it themselves?
Fri, 01/13/2012 - 04:06
#2
They sometimes drop GOLD
They sometimes drop GOLD COIN! Must.... collect.... allll!
Fri, 01/13/2012 - 04:15
#3
Ik they can drop golds, but
Ik they can drop golds, but that's like saying that breaking boxes is only worth it 'cuz they might drop gear; it's so rare it's hardly worth putting into consideration. If indeed it is more profitable to skip them and speedrun, then you'll make far more than your 50cr worth than waiting for that one in every thousand shrubs that pays out better. You're more likely to get a 50cr from the prize wheel than a shrub.
Fri, 01/13/2012 - 05:26
#4
They also sometimes drop
They also sometimes drop hearts, which can be worth a lot more than the coins...
It also somewhat depends on your choice of weapons. If all you have is slow, two-swing swords, bleh, that would take forever. Antigua line guns, on there other hand, can clear bushes very quickly (but not the low plants) and bombs such as the DBB/nitronome can clear lots of brush *while* killing monsters.
Fri, 01/13/2012 - 05:37
#5
Well I am specifically
Well I am specifically talking about clearing bushes *just* for the chance of crowns drops. Obviously clearin' them lookin' for hearts is going to be done anyways, similarly to bushes bein' cut while you're attacking lichens that spawn inside, but I'm wondering about finishing the room, being full hps and then actively goin' out of your way to chop down every bush in sight for the crowns.
I suppose with antiguas and such the difference in time would be minimalised, but even then...
Fri, 01/13/2012 - 05:48
#6
I usually make an effort to
I usually make an effort to clear all the low bushes/plants (which seem to have a higher chance of dropping coins). With the larger bushes I just take pot shots as a run past, and if anything more than 1cr drops I'll go out of my way to pick it up.
Fri, 01/13/2012 - 05:50
#7
It's not about the crowns.
It's not about the crowns. It's about getting lichenous lairs neat and clean with the minimal possible amount of nitro dropped and eliminating every single patch of grass before the swordies are done with those boring jellies.
Fri, 01/13/2012 - 06:23
#8
Zelda
i usually dont even bother with minerals, but in parties it may be better to have them wait for u rather than waiting for them(to finish doing whatever weird messed up time consuming stuff...)
Fri, 01/13/2012 - 06:40
#9
For me it's worth it
When I solo i clear a lot more bushes than in a group. I think this is the #1 mistake new players make. The game isn't about killing things , it's about getting crowns. You are better off taking advantage of the opportunity.
Fri, 01/13/2012 - 06:59
#10
Well most single mobs will
Well most single mobs will drop more crowns than an entire rooms worth of coins from shrubs, so if getting crowns is the answer then..well, you should be asking the exact same question as me:
"Is it actually worth it to collect shrubmoney, or is it just false economy?"
We know monsters pay out, and they're not exactly option anyways, but runnin' around takin' time out to actively assassinate flowers for the potential of a single crown doesnae seem like good money in the grand scheme of things, especially when moving deeper pays better and better just for the kills alone.
Fri, 01/13/2012 - 07:02
#11
Zelda
as a new f2p player id grab every single crown as well
Fri, 01/13/2012 - 07:06
#12
gold coins from bushes is not
gold coins from bushes is not nearly as rare as items from boxes. Even then, everyone gets the gold coin (200 gold for the party) vs 1 person getting the item and it is never you.
Either way, it isn't worth it, but I will if I'm looking for hearts or if people are straggling behind.
Fri, 01/13/2012 - 08:22
#13
Ultimate Scavenger
I'm clearing all shrubs, bushes, buckets, stacks of books, couches and braziers (tall and short) because that's how I play and I'd feel bad doing otherwise. But I'm usually going solo so I'm not a burden for rush-zergs. Once some guy wanted to kick me for clearing shrubs, but sadly I was a party leader :-D
And yes, I'm usually playing with guns only so I have to do the harvesting with Callahan/Valiance/Polaris....
Well, at least I can play on Mist Energy for hours ;-P
Fri, 01/13/2012 - 08:51
#14
Most new players don't have an elevator pass
so I try to show them thar's gold in them bushes! by clearing as many as I can while they're watching.
If I fall too far behind, I'll stop and catch up (usually).
I really hate when there's beggars in the group asking for free crowns and they don't ever bother to chop a single low-bush, which have high probability for crowns (or if they completely miss treasure boxes because they're rushing through).
Fri, 01/13/2012 - 09:25
#15
Zelda syndrome!
As someone who is F2P, every single solitary crown may (and possibly will) make a difference. When it comes time to purchase 800 energy to craft that 5* armor, only to find you're a few crowns short of being able to post an offer, it's definitely not a time to party.
This is why I take as much time as I can to whack the bushes and cut the grass, scraping up any crown I can get.
On the flip side, it would be kind of rude to hold up a party.
"Hey, what are you doing?" "Cutting the bushes for money!" "We've been waiting on the party button for a while now."
... Now, if you're someone who has an elevator pass, you might as well not even bother.
Fri, 01/13/2012 - 10:26
#16
"... Now, if you're someone
"... Now, if you're someone who has an elevator pass, you might as well not even bother."
If you read the OP, it does actually say that non ele pass players will obviously benefit more from the money; it was directed more at players with ele passes really, when ce isn't the issue, just time.
Fri, 01/13/2012 - 11:24
#17
Everytime you kill a Bush
Everytime you kill a Bush your killing parts of Boswick remember that next time you blow up or strike a bush.
Fri, 01/13/2012 - 12:31
#18
In Wolver Dens & Lichen
In Wolver Dens & Lichen Lairs, it's almost always between 50 to 200 extra cr. I do it for the hearts, but I'm not OCD about destroying every bush and tree.
Even the ones on the first levels can drop big gold coins.
Now if it's worth taking an extra 15 seconds to go to the side of the arena and destroy the two lights between waves... that's a no.
Fri, 01/13/2012 - 12:51
#19
I do the torches in arena.
I do the torches in arena. The team usually runs off for boxes and such, and i can finish the torches while everyones healing. I'm usually a few ticks behind in healing, not 15seconds.
Fri, 01/13/2012 - 14:14
#20
If your solo its probably a
If your solo its probably a good idea to squeeze every bit of value out of each level, but if your in a group and everyone is waiting on you its better to stop trimming the hedges and keep up instead of risking getting kicked (especially true for wolver dens).
That's true but.... gaming OCD. Must kill ALL the bushes. I do this in every game. I don't care it doesn't have a good payout. >:O