I'm a slow sword user and i m thinking of upgrading my ash set to skolver(but sadly it doesnt give ASI),so think about vog cub before(but it was kinda useless seem i dont do FSC run much..bt it give ASI)..so asi or sd?idk if sword damage increase boost my DA element or not:P..
Speed or damage?
Mon, 01/16/2012 - 02:47
Mon, 01/16/2012 - 08:44
#2
Vog isn't useless just
Vog isn't useless just because you don't run FSC. Vog has elemental defense and fire resist, vs Skolver has pierce defense and freeze resist.
The only problem with Vog is the lack of pierce defense which isn't good for the JK addict. Otherwise there is a lot of elemental damage in the clockworks.
EDIT: I currently have one piece of Vog and one piece of Skolver so I have both pierce and elemental defense. Eventually I want to craft entire sets of both, but that will probably take a while.
Mon, 01/16/2012 - 09:01
#3
You could always do what
You could always do what Nordlead said and use Skolver armor and Vog helm or Vog armor and Skolver helm.
I've been using Skolver armor and Vog helm and it's worked fine for me but it really depends on where you plan
on doing most of your runs (FSC, IMF, or RJP).
Another option to consider is getting the Barbarous Thorn Shield. It gives you a damage bonus and is a pretty
good shield.
The one and only, Guardianknight.
Mon, 01/16/2012 - 09:12
#4
Asi helps with recovery from
Asi helps with recovery from swings, not just comboing faster. Most swords faster than the heavy one have a fast enough recovery that shielding from an attack after hitting is easy enough. But heavy swords do have a long delay. Thats where asi comes in, pulling up that clutch shield to save u from a lumber to the face.
Of course, that can all be negated by just playing well, which means skolver for the people who are skilled enough to hit without being hit.
But most people take one or the other, then get the trinks for the asi or damage they don't have.
Mon, 01/16/2012 - 12:57
#5
the best (in my opinion) is
the best (in my opinion) is Vog set with a DA. you get the extreme damage of the DA, along with the very high asi of the Vog.
Wed, 01/18/2012 - 19:01
#6
If you don't plan on doing
If you don't plan on doing FSC, consider a swiftstrike buckler as well. Its defence is really bad, so you have to be careful in T3 (to be honest, unless you are pro, it's not really viable there), but it gives a good ASI boost.
Wed, 01/18/2012 - 21:52
#7
Well,i sold my avenger and
Well,i sold my avenger and change my main weapon to brandish.:P they got good dps but still cant beat avenger..
Sun, 01/22/2012 - 03:58
#8
If you now have a brandish then...
Go for the damage increase because it will be very useful against monsters that are resistant to elemental (if the brandish is going to be your only sword) because the brandish is already a very fast weapon.
Sun, 01/22/2012 - 09:29
#9
Brandish is not "very fast".
Brandish is not "very fast". It is, as a medium speed 3 swing, measured as the base speed. And the argument for using damage increase so your swords can fight resistant enemies is... why would you not have 2 specials damage weapons anyways? Barring that, no normal damage either?
Sun, 01/22/2012 - 14:48
#10
Shadow Lair...
Just a random thing thrown in...
Vog not only is useful for FSC, but it is also ideal for the Red Roarmulus Twins. On the other hand, Skolver is perfect for the Ice Queen.
Wed, 01/25/2012 - 01:45
#11
Yo YO Yo
@OP:Imo,Since FSC is a cakewalk,get damage,the ASI is hardly noticeable,ASI just increase how fast you swing by like a few milliseconds,Rather you use Skolver since the damage helps you clear rooms faster.To counter what everyone says the fire protection,trust me,in time once you become experienced with fsc, 1 grey owlite shield is suffice to protect you.To your question,to me it would be DMG.
@Others Dont start a brandish vs DA :) Both have their flaws and good points
Depends how you currently run your swords. If you have trouble getting off a full combo and get interrupted a lot, then ASi is probably your friend, letting you keep the damage/KB while being able to keep up.
However, if you're well practiced and can pull off combos safely as things are, and know your shield-cancelling timing et cetera, then going Skolver and upping the damage percentile on a high damage sword that works well for you will probably work out better overall, requiring less attacks.
Then ofc, you can just toss on some ASi/CTR trinkies to balance it off...or one more damage one to maximise damage, depending on how it goes.