Spiral Knights - Elevator Passes

Elevator Passes

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Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:08

Motav

Anyone who bought one when they came out has had it run out already. And it sucks. It brings me back to why I stopped really playing very much, there is no reason to stay on after your mist is gone. Spiral Knights feels like some really repetitive daily quest in WOW, and after completing the heat on multiple gear sets (all 5 stars) there isn't much to do aside from Lockdown.

But when the Elevator Pass was out I was online for hours, playing with guild members, farming heat for new gear pieces I wouldn't have gotten without the incentive the pass gave me, or even just honing my sword skills all because I could freely do so and my mist was a self res counter. And I was not the only one, my guild had 15+ people online the majority of the day. Now... there's like 2 (counting me) and MAYBE 3 on at one time. I understand (from a discussion with a gm) that the pass was a temporary item and MIGHT come back another day, but I really like this game and buying CE or relying on my daily Mist just KILLS KILLS KILLS any replay value and any drive to sign on to play.

And as game designers not only is replay value a must but the more I was online the more times I may have been tempted to buy CE to go splurge on some shiny new thing. Just saying. You'd make money off the pass and money off the CE people would buy for new stuff just because they'd be playing more often.

TLDR: Bring the pass back, logging onto a game where my friends and guildmates aren't online and only playing for an hour or 2 a day gets harder each time it happens.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:11

Neodasus

>didn't buy 50 explorer packs

>didn't buy 50 explorer packs last month
>2012

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:14

Motav

I only bought one. That's a

I only bought one. That's a lot of cash when I would just ADORE being able to get a pass on it's own and would increase Three Rings' money all around.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:16

Dirt

Oh boy, time for these

Oh boy, time for these threads already?

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:20

Motav

I didn't say anything that

I didn't say anything that was a lie and didn't complain like a 12 year old girl. I stated my opinion in a mannered way and backed it up with my personal experiences. I didn't troll or insult anyone, nor did I say anything derogatory about the game.

If you don't agree with me I'm sorry but there's is absolutely nothing wrong with my thread and you never had to read or post in it.

Love, Motav

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:28

Sumomo

I find the elevator pass a

I find the elevator pass a little double edged. I think it's honestly the best thing they've released. If we could normally buy them at $5-6/month, I'd probably use it often.

That said, I think they'd probably have to adjust the way CE is used if it was to become a common item.

I have a feeling they're still "testing" the pass to see what kind of lasting effects it's going to have, and adjust things accordingly.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:49

Motav

It is double edged in that

It is double edged in that way but (imo) the most significant CE price change seemed to be the Explorer Pack because of the "collectible" Stranger Hats. Although to be fair when I started playing CE was 3000 cr, and since then it has stayed at over double that and no change in use to CE has really been issued. I spend it at the same rate as I did with my Elevator Pass, (rate meaning how much I needed to obtain the cr to purchase something) except when I had the pass I spent it more often.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 18:57

Neodasus

49.99 for a 1-year elevator

49.99 for a 1-year elevator pass is legit

I would buy that so hard if I wasn't cleared till next year

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 19:20

Dream-Harmonics

*Logs onto Spiral

*Logs onto Spiral Knights*
*Clicks Energy Tab*
*Clicks Elevator Pass Option*
*Elevator pass is $7.14*
*Come back to this thread*

I don't get it.

Wed, 01/18/2012 - 01:49

Nicoya-Kitty

@Razorlined You can only buy

@Razorlined You can only buy the standalone elevator pass once, ever.

Unless it's been stealth patched since I last looked.

Wed, 01/18/2012 - 03:01

#10

Asukalan

Your arguments are invalid.

Your arguments are invalid. You say bring back elevator pass.

Elevator passess are already and still ingame and will stay propably forever. Check out explorer pack.

Case closed, problem solved, elevator passes still in game.

Ps. Or maybe you are whinning that you were too narrowminded to buy some in advance at xmass promo? And now you are complaining that you want it but you want it for free? In this case this topic is just pathetic.

Wed, 01/18/2012 - 03:07

#11

Rubyeclipse

Should have picked up more

Should have picked up more Christmas packs - they were a great deal! Well worth it to stock up on elevator passes, and get free CE, silver keys, and heat amps along with them.

Not opposed to the OP's idea of having an elevator pass purchasable in ways besides the explorer pack, but it does seem a little odd to hear complaining about the price so soon after the Christmas pack was up for weeks.

Wed, 01/18/2012 - 04:10

#12

Psychodestroyer

...

@Asukalanforum

Dude, STOP RAGING.

You rage at EVERY thread you don't COMPLETELY AGREE WITH.

Just STOP.

Make your point, stop with the sarcasm EVERYWHERE and the 'oh, you were just too stupid and preoccupied with yourself to notice'.

REALLY MAN.

Wed, 01/18/2012 - 06:35

#13

Motav

I'm not complaining about the

I'm not complaining about the price of the Explorer Pack, it was a good deal during Christmas. On the other hand, I wasn't going to dump that much money into Explorer Packs, buying all that time ahead didn't seem to be a good idea especially since I would ONLY want the Pass out of it.

The Explorer Pack can be as expensive as it wants, I just want a standalone pass able to buy. I have the Sniped Hat, I don't need heat, and I just sell the keys. The rest of the pack is a waste to me.

Wed, 01/18/2012 - 06:48

#14

Moonsoon

Man i feel so bad for you. If

Man i feel so bad for you. If only there was some... thing... you could use to plan ahead....
oh right, brain, that's it. Gotta love that ~*foresight*~

Wed, 01/18/2012 - 07:20

#15

Asukalan

Oh and i think its in wrong

Oh and i think its in wrong forum section? But not sure, IMO this should go to suggestion.

Wed, 01/18/2012 - 07:29

#16

Poopar

who said this game was free

who said this game was free to play?? :D

Wed, 01/18/2012 - 07:46

#17

Metamare

@Asuka

Explorer packs suck. You pay 15 bucks for a TWO week elevator pass (As opposed to one for a WHOLE MONTH), 1000CE, a silver key which is like 750 energy and worthless to those who don't need one, and a stranger hat which really doesn't have value unless it has a snipe on it and a seven day heat amp which is pretty awesome but that's beside the point.

Now

1750CE which is about 5-6 Dollars, Plus half a normal elevator pass which is about 2 dollars and a seven day heat amp which is 5 bucks.

So, 13 Dollars out of 14 but!!!! Oh wait doesn't the disclaimer for explorer packs say it's a 25$ deal?

Honestly a standalone 31 day elevator pass would be a nice option to have then to having to resort to explorer packs.

/$0.02

Wed, 01/18/2012 - 11:19

#18

Eltia

To sum it up

Bring back $5.95 one month elevator pass please.

The Explorer's Pack at the current price point is not attractive. I understand OOO wants to play psychology by making us jealous of each other (Snipe Hats are sooooooooooooo cute). But people do see through this pretty soon when they find SK lacks new end-game contents with replay values. (Yes, Shadow Lairs is a challenge when it doesn't lag. But when it does lag, it just become a CE blackhole and its replay value approaches 0 quickly.)

Put it this way. We signed up for Spiral Knights, not Vanaduke Raiding. (What do you mean by they are the same? They spelled differently!)

Disclaimer: I bought both Elevator Pass and two Explorer's packs @ $2.95. Yes, they rock.

Wed, 01/18/2012 - 15:23

#19

Neodasus

At 9.99 for 3500CE, I can

At 9.99 for 3500CE, I can easily use elevators for a solid month with CE to spare. However, for a 24.99 standalone pass for a 3 mo period (9.99 for 1 mo), I could see myself buying this repeatedly along with CE. There is a point where the elevator pass really isn't worth it unless you play 8 hours a day. For a college student with deep pockets, I can say that right now the explorer pack as it is does not appeal to me. With the age of gamers rising to be 35 years and older (wow!), you need to give an option for us "well-off" players. A simple flat price, a simple flat timespan. No gimmicks, no fake pitches (25 USD value my buttocks), and please for the love of God don't make this temporary.

edit: I suggest cutting off the Explorer's Pack after YotD patch in order to inflate the price of Snipe Hats and Stranger Hats in general. This will allow more crowns for unique Special Auctions in the future. Come on you know you want to, OOO.

Wed, 01/18/2012 - 15:58

#20

Darkbrady

Just a note for all those

Just a note for all those "shoulda got it at the xmas sale" folks.

Some people can't afford to get 2 years worth of packs within a two week period and could only get so many at a time.

And "they're still in game" is a stupid point because...no one in the entire game can rationally justify the cost of the current pack; even "on sale" it's ridiculously overpriced for what you get, you'd be better off just buying the 3,5k ce and ditching the other stuff. Until they come out with a better ele pass package (I don't honestly expect to be seeing them standalone much/ever), I doubt anyone's really gunna have one after theirs runs out, short of becoming absolutely desperate.

And @Asulkwhatever: what Psycho said. You seriously need to take a chill pill dude, it stops bein' funny pretty fast. Sit back, have a beer, relax a bit and whenever you feel like ragin'...just shout at yourself instead, then type in whatever you have to say after you've calmed down.

Wed, 01/18/2012 - 16:16

#21

Nick

Developer

The Elevator Pass is coming

The Elevator Pass is coming back, check announcements later today.

Wed, 01/18/2012 - 16:29

#22

Darkbrady

...today? o_o Wow, guess the

...today? o_o

Wow, guess the sales must have impressed the lads up top.

Good to know! :D

Wed, 01/18/2012 - 16:46

#23

Motav

Or my post made a

Hey my post made a difference!

I know it did not but HEY this makes me feel great regardless!

Wed, 01/18/2012 - 16:53

#24

Vtmoon

sweet! And OP I agree with

sweet!

And OP I agree with you, I didn't buy explorer pack cause of the 1000 CE it gave. Glad to hear the stand alone Ele pass is making come back.

Wed, 01/18/2012 - 17:21

#25

Spamisalreadyinuse

welcome back, 7800 cr per 100

welcome back, 7800 cr per 100 ce. i missed you so much.

Wed, 01/18/2012 - 17:57

#26

Kinkypenguin

Hmmm elevator pass is back

Hmmm elevator pass is back for 5.95 for 30 days....

Wed, 01/18/2012 - 18:05

#27

Maeko

>Insert chorus from Handel's

>Insert chorus from Handel's Messiah here<

Wed, 01/18/2012 - 18:13

#28

Round-Shinigami

Ele pass does not push the

Ele pass does not push the price of CE upwards. Lack of reason to buy CE packs for $$ does this job. During xmas promo, we had a good reason to buy 1000 ce + silver key + heat amp: ele pass for 2 weeks. And price was $3 - ultra-affordable! Currently there is no repeatedly-puchase-able CE pack that contains free interesting bonus items (free random accessory with every CE purchase! free iron lockbox with every CE purchase! free silver key with every CE purchase starting at $5!). So my prediction is simple: CE price will keep rising. But I won't care as much as I did before since I'll be able to run clockworks freely with my ele pass!

Great decision! Thanks :)

Wed, 01/18/2012 - 19:20

#29

Motav

And while running with my

And while running with my renewed Elevator Pass maybe I'll buy some CE and work on that Polaris I keep putting off.

Wed, 01/18/2012 - 20:00

#30

Mirmulnir

My opinion: Elevator pass

My opinion: Elevator pass sucks at all.
It raises CE prices and makes the game a little pay-to-win.
The game have a major challenge: The Tier Three Clearance. Its a really hard and expensive thing to do. Or... you can buy an elevator pass and do it within 2 or 3 days.
Ptw much? Yea, indeed it is.
It also increases crown offer without a energy base, creating an inflation on CE price beyond the profit-able zone.
This force the new player to make a choice: To pay or to rely on mist. Both are not a permanent solution, which can lead the whole game to decay.

Wed, 01/18/2012 - 20:32

#31

Neodasus

and nothing of value was lost

Wed, 01/18/2012 - 21:24

#32

Motav

CE used to be less than 3k cr

CE used to be less than 3k cr for 100 CE, it more than doubled BEFORE the pass first came out. Blame the Rose Regalia giveaways for inflation if anything.

The game is already a pay to win, the more CE you buy the faster you heat up and the better your gear can get. The Pass just means you can play more often. I could buy an entire set of 5 star gear with paid for CE without ever stepping foot into the Clockworks. That is BY DEFINITION pay to win.

The major challenge is defeating Vanaduke, reaching the Core, or getting through the Shadow Lairs, T3 clearance is as easy as 4 star gear which can be obtained in no time at all. T3 clearance just gives you access to the end game content but is not the end of the game.

Also paying or relying on mist has ALWAYS been the choice. You'd either play once a day or buy more CE to keep playing. The pass just eliminates the need to buy CE to play more and eliminates the limit Mist energy imposed, ESPECIALLY on new players. If a brand new player had an Elevator Pass to buy maybe they would stay in the game and become a good player in our community. (We all started out as new players, don't tell me playing once a day wasn't annoying for a while)

But it doesn't matter, the pass is BACK and I'm playing! (well I was a moment ago but now I'm going to bed)

Wed, 01/18/2012 - 21:28

#33

Mirmulnir

Dude, i already got 10

Dude, i already got 10 Almirian Seals and reached the Core 4 times, and still didnt got T3 clearance. It is surely a great challenge :x

Wed, 01/18/2012 - 21:31

#34

Motav

Try doing it solo without T3

Try doing it solo without T3 clearance?

Wed, 01/18/2012 - 21:35

#35

Mirmulnir

IMPOSSIBRU :P Fsc is easy but

IMPOSSIBRU :P
Fsc is easy but when it comes to vanaduke itself i dont stand a chance with my little Antigua :P

Wed, 01/18/2012 - 23:25

#36

Retequizzle

It's an odd feeling. On one

It's an odd feeling. On one hand, this just made a lot of people happy, but on the other, this just made crafting a LOT more expensive at this rate.

But I take solace in the fact that I dropped the CE price of both the buy and sell sides of the market down by a good 200 crowns on my own tonight in order to get something off the AH. :) Even if that change was only for a few moments.

Wed, 01/18/2012 - 23:36

#37

Tyranitex

Im just hopin an dreamin

The only reason an elevator pass worked is because it was a way to forget about how much energy it woulod take to get from here to there. Unless it's a month long, I don't think it'll work. (two-week ones aren't super convenient with work schedules he says guiltily)

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 06:20

#38

Motav

It is a month long! It's the

It is a month long! It's the old pass and it's back!!

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 06:36

#39

Alice-In-Pyroland

Blame the Rose Regalia

Blame the Rose Regalia giveaways for inflation if anything.

What? Energy promotions cause the price to go down, not up. Energy goes up in price over time naturally because the lack of significant crown sinks in the game means there's a dissproportinate need for ce/cr and outside of ce promotions there's rarely a need to purchase large amounts of ce, which means less ce coming into the market and consequently the prices go up. The prices have always been raising gradually, if it weren't for energy promotions and the like it would realistically be higher than it currently is. The only 'event' that causes inflation is Power Surge weekends.

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