Had a Firo Driver in my inventory sitting there unbound, got it from a prize box a while back. Figured I'd put a UV on it before shoving it in the auction house.
I said to myself, jokingly, "he'll probably give me some crap UV like Gremlin Low"...
So I used Punch for the first time today
Thu, 01/26/2012 - 21:13
Thu, 01/26/2012 - 21:31
#2
Wow.
Oh the irony. Better luck next time, eh?
Thu, 01/26/2012 - 21:32
#3
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At least you're clairvoyant.
Thu, 01/26/2012 - 21:39
#4
Better than rolling a Fiend
Better than rolling a Fiend high on an Acheron.
Then re-rolling.
And getting Fiend Low.
At least you can only go up from here, if you decide to re-roll before putting it on the AH! Unless, you know, you get Beast Low. Which I wouldn't put past Punch.
Thu, 01/26/2012 - 21:46
#5
The Olde Trifling Story of D.B. Grems
Grintovec -> Jalovec
Unique Variant Acquired! Damage Bonus Gremlins: Low
- Alrighty, I suppose I'll reroll for Triggy.
Jalovec -> Triglav
- Well there goes the UV. I suppose I'll just Punch it.
Triglav + Punch
Unique Variant Acquired! Damage Bonus Gremlins: Low
punch.avi
- Eh, I'll roll one more time...
Triglav + Punch
Unique Variant Acquired! Damage Bonus Gremlins: High
Thu, 01/26/2012 - 23:38
#6
My first use of Punch will
My first use of Punch will probably always be the best I've ever seen. Very High Construct and High CTR on a Divine Avenger.
Thu, 01/26/2012 - 23:44
#7
My 2 uses of
My 2 uses of punch-
Silversix: ASI low, I was happy with it... the cost was 15K back then, just wanted to try it.
DA: Gremlin high
Fri, 01/27/2012 - 01:19
#8
Zelda
i seen that smiley before(and i liked it :D!)
im happy with punch, because he often gives me ctr low, which is ok for the weapons, that dont have 2*
nothing spectacular but good enuff :o
Fri, 01/27/2012 - 01:56
#9
Punch'd in the feic
first punch roll:
Combuster: Dmg vs gremlin low
2nd roll:
Combuster: dmg vs beast low
punch hates me :C
Fri, 01/27/2012 - 03:03
#10
I must ask...
Fri, 01/27/2012 - 06:26
#11
no considering the 1st poster
no considering the 1st poster had a 4 star wep
Fri, 01/27/2012 - 06:47
#12
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Punch is owning knights left and right.
WELCOME TO OWNSVILLE NOOB.
Fri, 01/27/2012 - 09:16
#13
Punch is evil.
Punch is the worst form of gambling in this game. Players will easily waste over 100K cr trying to get one decent UV with no luck. The Punch UVs are, in theory, of the same percentage of crafting UVs--and how often are any of those above Low?
So, don't get Punched. It's better to be patient and search for or ragecraft the starting version of the item you want. At least you can dump the unwanted items for some crowns back. Punch just takes your money and leaves you with garbage, at which point you might want to buy some CE with real money to get crowns back to try Punching again and...wait...something seems fishy about this...
Fri, 01/27/2012 - 09:32
#14
@Notbob
The success rate for getting a decent UV is pretty good. 100k is usually enough to grab a High or better of a decent UV.
Fri, 01/27/2012 - 09:46
#15
paying punch is the price for
paying punch is the price for getting a good UV in a short amount of time. Some of the UVs will easily run you 10kCE (or ~650,000cr). With that kind of money you could roll punch 32.5 times. Now, you aren't guaranteed a success, but there is a decent chance you get something good before you complete 32 rolls.
Obviously it is a gamble, but it might be worth it depending on what UV you are looking for. Obviously ragecrafting is an alternative, but then you have to have all the materials, CE, cr and the will to re-sell your junk and some people may not want to do all of that. Also, arguably, punch is cheaper than ragecrafting if you don't get UVs often enough.
Fri, 01/27/2012 - 09:54
#16
My experience
UV rolling on Electron Vortex, hoping for a CTR UV.
Results:
Beast Low
Gremlin Low
Beast Low
I stopped rolling after that and decided to just rage craft Electron Charge. For 60k, I could have bought about 1k CE (when CE was 5.9k-ish). If I craft on ME, that's equivalent to 10 crafts that could give me some income on the side.
Moral of the story: UV rolling is a gamble (or troll, depending on your view). Unless you are very lucky or you need a particular UV urgently (and you have the capital), don't bother.
Fri, 01/27/2012 - 10:48
#17
I should mention that the
I should mention that the only reason I used Punch in this case was because it was an unbound prize drop that I wanted to sell. A 4* weapon without a UV won't bring nearly as much interest as one with a good UV.
I'll probably roll a few more times until I get basically anything other than Gremlin or Beast.
Fri, 01/27/2012 - 10:53
#18
Looks like Punch has some sort of list......
of people he prefers to give stuff to, that is....
All my current regular FSC weapons as of last week now have ASI and CTR ranging from medium to very high, all using him to get those bonuses.
Fang of Vog: CTR high
Dread Venom Striker: ASI medium
Combuster: ASI very high
Barbarous Thorn Blade: CTR very high
Then I crafted another brandish and cutter and rolled on those to see if I could get pure CTR, and it worked :D
Cutter: CTR medium
Brandish: CTR very high
I don't understand why you guys all hate him so much.....well, a pretty penny did go into those results though...but who cares :D I think it turned out just fine.
Fri, 01/27/2012 - 13:01
#19
Why we hate Punch
Because it is not consistent and there is not much you can influence the outcome aside from investing more capitals (and Punch can still end up giving you the same useless UVs over and over and over again).
Yes I know some people would have good results with Punch (statistically speaking, there will be outliners or lucky fools as some may called it). And usually these are the people who report their findings publicly. The outcome? An asymmetrical distribution of knowledge. We know a lot about the good cases but relatively few about the bad cases (a.k.a. the downside risk).
Moral of the story: Don't even bother investing heavily on Punch unless you really, really have a lot of capital to waste. Invest into a craft that can yield modest income, then use the proceeds to try your luck with Punch. That's what I would recommend people to do.
Fri, 01/27/2012 - 13:42
#20
There isn't a reliable or
There isn't a reliable or profitable way to roll for UVs except crafting twice a day with mist energy. Crafting with CE is also a gamble. 50 energy currently costs ~3.3k. Crafting a 2* item costs 400 cr, so assuming you have the mats, you're paying 3.7k to craft each 2* item. At a 10% chance of getting a UV, it costs an average of 37k cr to get a UV. The difference in crafting is that even when you don't get what you want, you have something to resell. You can recoup part of your expenses even without getting any UVs by reselling each item for 1-2k. The end result is that crafting for UVs (when possible) ends up being a bit cheaper than using Punch. There's really nothing wrong with using Punch, though.
Fri, 01/27/2012 - 17:29
#21
Useless UV's
@Otaia
You forget that crafting also gives you a chance for double and triple UV's. Even if the UVs are crap, you can still sell most of them for 10k+ crowns. I remember selling a Brandish with +dam vs undead and construct low for almost 20k. Even if you only get one UV that is crap, you can still re-sell those for like 5k.
Fri, 01/27/2012 - 17:41
#22
I didn't forget anything. You
I didn't forget anything. You will still, on average, lose money by mass crafting, but you have the chance to make a lot if you get lucky.
You can also roll double and triple UVs with Punch. I imagine the chance of getting triple UVs with crafting before spending 225k in crowns is probably pretty low (though of course the resulting item will probably be worth a lot if you want to resell it).
Fri, 01/27/2012 - 18:16
#23
I said it before and I'll say it again
Don't bother with Punch unless you have a lot of capital to waste and you want a certain UV very badly.
There is a profitable way to roll single, double or triple UVs. Just craft it the good old fashion way or buy it off other players. Why? Because if everyone who wants UVs craft at same time, eventually someone would have gotten an UV that he doesn't want but is highly sought after by another. So you end up with two ways to get that UV item: you hit the jackpot first or you buy it off from someone else who did it before you do.
Its ok... I got the same thing on my Glacius Q.Q