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Monster Cage Update?

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Fri, 01/27/2012 - 13:11
Lungs's picture
Lungs

Hello,

With the Ruby Knight gate having Perimeter Prominade II at depth 19, I thought I'd try my luck at finding a Sloom. As of yet, I've not found one, and I've done quite a few box openings.

However, I found something stranger..

http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Exploration#Monster_Cages

As you can see, Mecha Knights are not an enemy that you can find here, but I've found 2 now. It's not a good sample by any means, but I've found 2, whereas so far I've found 0 zombies, lichens, silkwings, gremlin scorchers, demos and understandably sloom and love puppies.

What's even stranger, perhaps, is that this Mechaknight doesn't seem 'normal'. You wont be able to see it in the following pictures (but shown here for proof), but the charge attack of these mechaknights shoots electric bullets MUCH MUCH faster. Sadly, I only took screenshots of 1 (I didn't realise it was undocumented previously), and I have no such means to record

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/6517/mechaknight.png
http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/5841/mechaknight2.png

Whilst this gate is here, I will keep trying to find a sloom, and perhaps there's more undiscovered monsters that I'll find?

I posted this here in case anyone wanted to update the Wiki to make room for this Mecha Knight found here, or whether you wanted to research further these bizarre mecha knight behaviours (who knows, I might have been lagging in a weird way for it to 'speed up').

EDIT: The next time I went down I found a Devilite (first one!) and a Blast Cube (also undocumented). BIZARRE.

http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/6933/blastcube.png

Fri, 01/27/2012 - 14:45
#1
Windsickle's picture
Windsickle
Strange. I've actually freed

Strange. I've actually freed all the possible Beasts and Gun Puppies that have been recorded to be found in Monster Cages including a Love Puppy though I might not have found a Red Rover inside. I can't quite remember.

Fri, 01/27/2012 - 15:42
#2
Fehzor's picture
Fehzor
I've found a red rover in a

I've found a red rover in a box before.... I'd REALLY like to see those boxes used more in the clockworks.

Fri, 01/27/2012 - 17:14
#3
Lungs's picture
Lungs
An update

Hello,

I'm still plugging away at this, trying to find my Sloom, and I'm disappointed to say no such luck.

However, I've found yet another monster that the Wiki says shouldn't be found here. It's not very exciting, just an ordinary jelly, but something the Wiki needs updating regardless.

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/7743/ordinaryjelly.png

Since last time, I have found an ordinary dust zombie and a Silkwing, which means I have yet to find:
- Love Puppy
- Lichen
- Sloom
- Slag Walker
- Gremlin Scorcher
- Gremlin Demo

We know that the Love Puppy exists from Windsickle (although, can you guess how recently? if there's been a patch, it may have changed, although Love Puppies can spawn in place of all 3 puppies in the boxes, so assumably they should still - which begs the question, can Impostcubes and Soul Jelly replace the slimes?) and I can definitely say the Sloom exists (I emailed them asking them if I was wasting my time - they said no, but it doesn't sound like fun!). Has anyone had any experience with the others recently?

And I have found the following which are NOT on the Spiral Wiki page, with proof in both of my posts:
- Blast Cube
- Jelly
- Mecha Knight (funky behaviour still needs monitering by someone not called Lungs. I've seen yet another Mecha Knight, and it DID shoot its charge bullets super fast. However, that's 3 now, they can't be that rare to have not been sighted?)

Does this mean perhaps every monster is available through monster boxes, or have been exceedingly lucky to find these? Or possibly even (as the title suggests) there's been an update we don't know about?

I think I'm done for today, there's only so much slashing away at boxes in hope of a Sloom holding a Zee Core I can take. Hopefully someone can shed some light on the situation.

I'll keep at it tomorrow, this gate is only here for a few more days and this is an ideal time to gather some data on the monster boxes since it's so easily accessable- Ruby Knight, it cycles every 2 or so minutes. I can clear it out twice before I have to wait a moment, and having done tier 2 and having an elevator pass, this is free to exit and enter.

Sat, 01/28/2012 - 05:36
#4
Shue-Donnym's picture
Shue-Donnym
Wat

I thought ordinary T3 mechaknights had bombs not bullets and the edge of the sword was red. Weird. Have you tried shocking them? Maybe they're also immune to shock.

Sat, 01/28/2012 - 13:13
#5
Lungs's picture
Lungs
Another update

So,

I’m still on a hunt to find my Zee Core, but interestingly, I’ve found 3 Love puppies just today. Unfortunately, none dropped a pendant, which makes me fear for the time I find a Sloom! Taking it out of context, it was 3 in 12 depths, but on the whole, 3 in (sadly) 100+. ONE of them was found in a box, as seen in the screenshot below. The first shows a Love Puppy which spawned on a regular puppy with an untouched box by its side, and the second shows a Love Puppy that came out of the box (different scenarios, but shown here for proof). So perhaps Slooms are rarer than love puppies (excluding how often you come across monster boxes), or my luck’s just gone a bit wacky.

http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/7720/lovepuppy7.png
http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/8653/lovepuppy9.png

I’ve now found yet another ordinary Jelly so the first time can’t have been a fluke. I’ve also found a Gremlin scorcher, so we can take both this and the Love Puppy off of my list of unsighted monsters. Less interestingly, but still fairly important, I’ve found 2 more toxic lichens, 2 more devilites and another dust zombie. I’m keeping track of less seen monsters to see if we can get a vague idea on rarity.

The following are still unseen:
- Lichen
- Sloom
- Slag Walker
- Gremlin Demo

Will someone update the Wiki to show the new monsters I've found? Does anyone have any thoughts or theories on monster cages?

When I come across another Mecha Knight, I’m going to email the support staff to come check out the behaviour of him and I’ll edit this post with the response here.

EDIT:

So I found a Mecha Knight and the response was to send a Bug Report. I take it that this means the Mecha Knights shouldn't act the way they do. I wish I had a way of recording it so that other people could see what happens, but to recap, the Mecha Knights:

- Are Mecha Knight tier 3 in colour
- When they charge, they shoot electric bullets which CAN shock as opposed to gremlin bombs
- These electric bullets shoot much much faster than status Knight equivilents.

Of course, this is kind of irrelevent as it appears to be a bug rather than a new monster type. Is it worth noting anywhere?

I must reiterate though, I don't know how to edit Wikipages, so if there's anything in my findings that seems important to add (I think the 3 monsters seems important), then someone else will have to do so.

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