Nevermind the fact that only swords have a damage-bonus shield.
Zettalux demands a universal charge-time-reduction shield so he can bomb, brandish and alchemer all day, erry day. Even if it has to be a mirror of crapstrike buckler in stats.
Come to think if it, we need moar shields with different kind of abilities. Like a shield with damage bonus vs fiend, etc.
lolnope
Has it ever occurred to you that those trinket slots may be of better use for something else. And note that I said UNIVERSAL CTR, instead of having to invest in 2 bomb/sword/gun CTR modules.
Nah.
I suggested this for the Darkfang shield to separate it from the Owlite line, should it come to broad availability, but nobody seemed to much like the idea.
"Has it ever occurred to you that those trinket slots may be of better use for something else" Well, aren't we all high and mighty. I know what you said, it's just an "I want more stuff to make the game easier...*cry*" thread
"Zettalux demands" <--- best way to ask for stuff here....oh yeah.
Things are restricted in this game to bring in a modicum of strategy.
Bristling buckler gives a damage bonus to swords but I'm a pure gunner so wtf do *I* do?
I have to pay extra crowns for trinket slots because I'm not playing the generic cheap wolver swordy style?
A gunner specific and a bomber specific would be a better way to go about it, as opposed to a blanket ctr bonus. Thats all
YES! I'd sooo use it. Just give it CTR med/high for everything, and it'd match swiftstrike... heck, even reuse the model, and make it pink or something.
So here's an idea. Why don't you stop poking at his choice of words.
Your words from your second post are clearly just as, if not as negative
as his. That said, recently, has the idea popped into your head that maybe,
a bigger variety of equipment allows for a larger variety of builds? LE GASP!!
Oh no, maybe that guy over there wants to find a way to further specialize
his build or trade vestigial equipment for ones that he can actually use, let's
yell at him for it. More equipments with a level of balance to them
bring about more variety, especially in things like strategy. I really don't
know about you, but I get tired of relentlessly click my left mouse button,
or hey, in some cases, holding down my mouse button for a period of time
and then RELEASING IT!
Anyways, I'd be fine with a shield that gives a universal CTR, but with three stars, or with
one that goes to five stars and gives it to only one weapon type, but I've noted for a while
now that I end up shielding more frequently after a charge attack ends, so I'm more in favor
of a 5-star shield. This might not be the case with gunners and bombers, but still, charged
attacks leave people more vulnerable when they don't knock everything back, so shielding still
has its uses.
But then again, my BTS will break rather easily on stratum 6. Why really bother with shielding an
attack when a lumbar can take whatever shield you have in one hit, or a kat in two? Kinda makes
the all-weapon CTR bonus seem more palpable, seeing as a lot of my defense comes from playing
with enemy positioning.
Both ideas have their points, but at some level in the end, I'd rather take a weapon-specific CTR.
While that shield might not stop a lumbar, it'll take everything else. Plus when I'm playing I'm generally
trying to max out my abilities in one weapon type. Arguably some weapons really benefit people who
use a variety of weapons, like mist bombs which can status foes, and leviathan blades
are good at knocking back enemies from what I hear, but I've never found either to be really dependent
on charging really fast, seeing as they sound like weapons to be used while running for your life.
Alternatively, both types could be put in. I don't see why to not.
Here's another one for you; "wants to find a way to further specialize his build", no, he wants to generalise his "build" to make his life easier. I use mainly swords so i use a skolver coat, a snarby helm and a BTS....max damage for swords, I also use the brandish line a lot so I have 2 elite CTR trinkets....Max ctr on (lvl 10) swords. That’s pretty specialised, I Also use a divine veil for fiend and vanaduke depths. Now I understand that the Gunner set bonuses need a buff and I cannot comment on bombers. A general CTR shield is not a good idea.
CTR specific shields could work on a brandish style progression tree, I know that some damage type defences are not on the most desirable or armours. So maybe they could factor this in with the shield's design.
The way I see it, there's a reason why this doesn't exist.
(in these examples, all trinkets are 5*, but not always necessary)
Lets take a sword set, and try to get max on all 3 bonuses.
Swiftstrike + vog coat = ultra ASI
Skolver cap + 2x DMG trinkets = max DMG
VH CTR on swords = max CTR
-So there's really no need for it, is there?
Bombs, only have 2 bonuses available right? This shield? Useless:
Mad bomber mask + Volcanic demo suit + 2x DMG trinkets + low CTR UV = MAX all
Alternatively, Mad bomber mask + Merc demo suit + CTR trink + DMG trink + low CTR UV(This is my personal set) = MAX CTR, Ultra DMG.
^In this set a med CTR UV would eliminate the need for a trinket, and replace that with a damage trink for MAX all again.
Guns? I dunno, I don't understand the gun sets so I'll just have a stab at it:
Nameless hat + Swifty + shadowsun ponchothing + 2x damage trinkets + VH CTR = Ultra ASI, Ultra DMG, MAX CTR
With guns, its the same as mixing up sword stuff like above, so the shield also will have little purpose really.
Nobody seems to point out that this game DOES have UVs, and instead of having a shield do it, why not just try your luck with Punch? 20k crowns isn't an epic ammount of money, a few Firestorm runs easily covers it, or 4/5 RJP runs too if you want to start that early.
@Psycho-Dani
The point in a universal-CTR shield, in my opinion, isn't useless. Yeah, you can have bomber armour for your bombs, but then where's the space for your sword bonuses? Gun bonuses? Whole point for this shield would be so you can have that bomb CTR and have space for different bonuses. Yeah, I can see where you're going with the balance issues, but I'm pretty sure there's plenty of ways to balance this. For one, a shield with crap defense. Other examples would be like negative bonuses (movement speed, etc). Either way, the point of this shield (like what Swiftstrike is intended for is universal use) is to have a bonus for all weapons.
TL;DR: Where else can you get sword/gun charge-time reduction, other than through trinkets/UVs/base ctr?
@Melisan
Ohdear, you have caught me, good sir. What am I to do without this shield, because with my damage-bonus-max and attack-speed-max sword build with-a-side-of-bomb-ctr-max, I will still be useless and helpless in the big world of the clockwurkz if I has no sword/gun ctr-max! Halp! Pls giv me yur trinketz Zettalux es nombor uno HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE
No, but seriously, don't you think I've considered getting CTR trinkets? Well, technically I can't because I already have them. I don't want to boast (loljk) but I pretty much have every kind of build in the game; the one thing that gripes me is the choice of charge-time reduction.
But forget about me. If someone wants CTR for anything but bombs, then how will they do it without sacrificing damage/attack speed bonuses, also without relying on UVs or trinkets?
+1, if we have that Swiftstrike Buckler why can't we have a CTR one?
Why not? There are some of us who would prefer to have a permanent shield rather than temporary trinkets slots or try their luck with UVs.
And by the same logic, why not have a universal damage increase shield? Just make them all variants of Swiftstrike - a good bonus in trade of shield strength.
Graphics idea!
Make the CTR shield a Buckler variant with an Energy symbol overlay and electrical discharge.
And as for the Damage bonus shield, make it a beefier version of that arm guard that the Azure Guardian and Snarbolax sets have
+1
Chargedstrike Buckler would be great for those who don't like paying for Trinket Slots and are not interested in UV gambling.
I would definitely use it in Deconstruction Zones.
my brandish, autogun and bombs getting ctr all with one shield sounds mighty fine!
This shield would probably in essence be worse to use than a proto. Since you're asking for a general increase, you're also looking at heavy fines for it.
UV's are in place to make the grind last, and rightfully so. I don't want to hit 5* and go, whelp, I'm basically done with the game. I want the feeling of busting through that plateau of strength at 5*. I want the feel of making a multi-UV or even a really awesome single UV item that I can say I made with pride. I am happy with this manner of mechanic... it keeps the game fun even after I hit an SL lair for the 10th time. That's what I am looking for.
While equipment variety would be nice, you're seeking in all the wrong niches IMHO.
-1 unfortunately.
Sounds good, but it better have craptastic stats for defence, or everyone will be using it.
Op just sounds like he wants all bonuses maxed without changing gear.
Just get 2 elite CTR trinkets