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Tue, 01/31/2012 - 18:12
Arquebus's picture
Arquebus

I've noticed there are a lot of blank gun damage values for 5* stuff in the wiki, so I'm going to try to help fix that over the next few days. I can't edit it myself as I use Steam, but hopefully some other kind soul will plug my data in. All of these numbers are gathered in proto gear, and all the weapons have no damage-related UVs.

I'll post my compiled data here at the top so it's easy to parse:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjvYpSStSGjLdFZYd0F3dEZzbXk...

Umbra Driver

Start of Stratum 1
27/normal, 42/initial charge vs. gremlin and slimes
22/normal, 37/initial charge vs. construct and beast

Start of Stratum 4
79/normal, 134/initial charge vs. gremlin and slimes
49/normal, 103/initial charge vs. construct and beast

Neutralizer

Start of Stratum 1
16/normal, 44/charge

Start of Stratum 4
126/charge

Argent Peacemaker

Start of Stratum 1
6/normal, 15/charge owl vs. construct and beast
6/normal, 11/charge owl vs. slime and gremlin

Start of Stratum 4
24/normal, 45/charge owl vs. construct and beast

Biohazard

Start of Stratum 1
21/normal, 46/charge vs. gremlin and slimes
16/normal, 41/charge vs. construct and beast

Start of Stratum 4
39/normal vs. construct and beast

I'll continue to post here as I get more numbers. I have a Sentenza that's about to hit level 10 as well, so I'll be testing that too.

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 19:51
#1
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle
Im gonna do them from the

Im gonna do them from the bottom up, since damage numbers for 1 star guns are missing from strata 5 and 6 on quite a few pages.

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 20:41
#2
Chronovore's picture
Chronovore
You might also want to get

You might also want to get damage values for the AP/Sentenza vs. drones where possible, since (as far as I can tell) drones take neutral damage from all damage types.

Sun, 02/12/2012 - 18:34
#3
Arquebus's picture
Arquebus
More

Finally getting around to doing more of these:

Start of Stratum 1

Biohazard
4/normal, 7/charge vs. undead and fiend

Sentenza
6/normal, 15/charge owl vs fiend and slime
6/normal, 11/charge owl vs. undead and construct

Umbra Driver
4/normal, 6/initial charge vs. undead and fiend

End of Stratum 1

Biohazard
4/normal, 7/charge vs. undead and fiend
24/normal, 54/charge vs. slime and gremlin

Sentenza
8/normal, 12/charge owl vs fiend and slime
7/normal, 11/charge owl vs. undead and construct
(Note, the charge damage numbers for fiends ARE correct, I double checked... the owl actually does LESS damage at the end of this stratum than at the start.)

Umbra Driver
4/normal, 6/initial charge vs. undead and fiend
31/normal, 50/initial charge vs. slime and gremlin

Start of Stratum 2

Biohazard
6/normal, 10/charge vs. undead and fiend

Sentenza
10/normal, 19/charge owl vs fiend and slime

Umbra Driver
7/normal, 10/initial charge vs. undead and fiend

Sun, 02/12/2012 - 19:27
#4
Arquebus's picture
Arquebus
Even More

Start of Stratum 2

Argent Peacemaker

14/normal, 27/charge owl vs. undead and fiend

Neutralizer

20/normal, 60/charge

End of Stratum 2

Argent Peacemaker

15/normal, 24/charge owl vs. drone
16/normal, 27/charge owl vs. fiend and undead
(While the charge damage numbers were orange at the start of the stratum, they were no longer orange at the end of it!)
10/normal, 16/charge vs. gremlin and slime

Neutralizer

22/normal, 67/charge

Umbra Driver

8/normal, 11/initial charge vs. fiend and undead

Sun, 02/12/2012 - 20:29
#5
Arquebus's picture
Arquebus
AP/Sentenza Identical

As expected, all my tests comparing Argent Peacemaker to Sentenza are exactly identical in damage to weak, neutral, and resistant targets for each gun. An informal look at the range from depth 1 to depth 28 reveals they have the same range. This should make gathering data much easier, as I will only need to test one of them, and can bring a different one if I need a different resistance to show.

Thu, 02/16/2012 - 09:51
#6
Culture's picture
Culture
More gun damage

I have a lot of the AP and Sentenza data, I'll post it to the wiki, should help with those guns.

Do you have some of the 5* alchemers? I posted the Hail Driver damage data, but I can't confirm if it matches any of the other 5* alchemers.

Fri, 02/17/2012 - 11:56
#7
Arquebus's picture
Arquebus
Yes,

but only the Umbra and Prisma Drivers, whose damage will not be the same as a status alchemer.

Mon, 02/20/2012 - 16:12
#8
Toastnaut's picture
Toastnaut
If it saves you guys the

If it saves you guys the trouble, I have charts done up for the Biohazard, Nova Driver, Silversix and Blackhawk that I've been working on for about a week, there are just a few spaces with missing data, but I was waiting to post them complete. I'll post 'em up ASAP.

My charts are from level 1-28 at the top and bottom of each stratum to completely fill the entries (including drones on the 4* antiguas.)

If it saves the trouble of you guys having to gather data, it's almost totally collected. :)

Tue, 02/21/2012 - 09:50
#9
Arquebus's picture
Arquebus
^Yes please!

That'd be lovely. There's a link to a Google doc with the stuff I've gathered so far. Since Biohazard seems to be the only overlap we have on guns we're testing, go for the unfilled slots on that and go wild on all else :D

Tue, 02/21/2012 - 13:28
#10
Toastnaut's picture
Toastnaut
Google docs will be much

Google docs will be much preferred to trying to make a chart on the forum.

I'm not just doing guns, I have three pages of data for weapons with missing data. I'll post in the forum and in the docs page as well. :)

(Just took a quick peek. Nice chart, glad to see I'm not the only one double checking some of the funny numbers you can get from the start of one stratum vs the end of the one before. :) )

Wed, 02/22/2012 - 21:43
#11
Toastnaut's picture
Toastnaut
Good news and Bad News

Without knowing the update was coming today, I stayed up late last night getting the last of the data for the Silversix and Blackhawk, so those charts are complete for every stratum including drone damage (in the nick of time) for the old guns.

It's still on paper though, and I want to play some of the new content so the bad news is I'll add it to the google docs page later after I've mucked around with some missions.

:)

Thu, 02/23/2012 - 05:37
#12
Toastnaut's picture
Toastnaut
Started Posting Data

So I've started posting data.

Arq, youre spreadsheet is read-only, so I've made my own.
That being said, I haven't gotten as far as entering CURRENT gun data. The old 4* Antigua line is entered, and some swords.
I'm about 1/3-1/2 of the way done entering the data I have, but I'm still collecting some other data.

Will start on NEW numbers for Silversix (for 4* antigua line) and Sentenza ASAP.

Posted my own chart over here... http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/30092#comment-289422

Mon, 02/27/2012 - 06:36
#13
Toastnaut's picture
Toastnaut
Finished Biohazard and

Finished Biohazard and updated charts for you, Arq.

Also got much more data for the new antiguas.

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