Spiral Knights - Price check

Price check - Junk UVs!

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Thu, 02/02/2012 - 22:06

Traevelliath

Anyone who has ragecrafted knows of those random UVs that pop up to excite you, but end up being like +Dam vs Construct Low on a Flourish. Most of the time I throw them on the AH for like 1500 to 2000 crowns.

Then recently, a friend offered me 5000 crowns for a Brandish with +dam vs Fiend medium.

So now my mental prices for random junk UVs are all messed up. I tried not putting a Buy Now price on another Brandish with +dam vs Beasts med and it went to about 2700. I posted a Flourish with +dam vs Slime high and it went for nearly 3500. Have I just been too generous with my junk UVs and missing out on potential crowns? Or have I just recently been lucky?

Speaking of being lucky, double and triple UVs. They apear every now and then to make your heart leap with joy, only to make it collapse upon itself when you realize they are only like +dam vs Undead low and +dam vs Gremlin low. Most of the time I place them at around 5000 crowns, but I recently tried omitting a Buy Now price on a Brandish with +dam vs Gremlin low and +dam vs Beasts low and it nearly hit 7500. I recently nearly fell out of my chair this afternoon when I made a Triple UV Brandish. Then I gave myself a headache via an abrupt head-desk when I found out they were +dam vs Gremlin, Slime and Undead low. I was planning on 20000 for it, but now I don't really trust my judgement.

The Gremlin and Slime reminded me of another question. When you do get something like +dam vs Beasts/Fiends med or low on a Flourish, about how much are they worth? A friend sold me a Flourish with +dam vs Beasts Med for 6000, but said he was planning on selling it for 8000. I've sold tons of Brandishes with +dam low/med vs Undead, Constructs, Gremlins or Slimes, yet I've never sold them for more than 5000 at a time.

My second to last question is those ASI and CTR UVs. I'm not talking about a Brandish with CTR or a Flourish with ASI, rather the opposite. What would something like a Flourish with CTR or a Brandish with ASI go for? I have a friend who is willing to fork over 6000+ for a good ASI on a Brandish, yet I've sold a CTR low Brandish for just short of 5000.

And CTR/ASI reminded me of my last question. It's mainly about a Brandish I had been paranoid of selling. It had CTR low and +dam vs Undead low. I was expecting to get about 15000 crowns, but it sold for just over 20000. I have even sold a Brandish with ASI med and +dam vs Construct High for 25000, yet within a few days afterwards, a friend said he would of offered me 30000. So whats a good price for when the previous 3 questions are combined into one weapon? More specifically, when they are low's and Med's.

In short (TL;DR):
1) - About how much does a basic rage-crafted piece of equip with a +dam low/med vs something go for?
2) - About how much does a basic rage-crafted piece of equip with a double UV go for when the UV's are generic +dam low/med vs something? Triple?
3) - When the +dam vs something complements the enemies said weapon is good against, about how much could they go for? (For example, +dam vs fiends on a Flourish)
4) - About how much are some low/med ASI and CTR Weapons that don't dramatically benefit from ASI/CTR? (For example, Brandish with ASI or Flourish with CTR)
5) - What's the price for when the previous 3 points are combined into one weapon?

Fri, 02/03/2012 - 07:53

Traevelliath

BUMP

You people disappoint me! Can't respond to a thread unless it has "WTB" or "WTS" plastered over the title?

Fri, 02/03/2012 - 23:02

Traevelliath

BUMP2

Hey! Anyone without excessive ADHD willing to spend a few minutes to read/post here?

Fri, 02/03/2012 - 23:19

Derpules

I wish I knew

I can't figure it out either. I suspect the value of crappy UV-ed items depends too much on basically irrational buyers to make any firm predictions.

Fri, 02/03/2012 - 23:24

Fallenafm

I'm not exactly sure on

I'm not exactly sure on everything, but on that asi med + construct high brandish you could have got about 4 times that amount

Fri, 02/03/2012 - 23:57

Culture

Hmm

Here's the thing. The people buying crap UVs don't know better. If there was no competition they would pay an unreasonably large sum of crowns for said items. Because not only do they not know better but that item they are buying only cost them 100-200 CE converted to CR, in other words less than $0.50.

Case in point...

By some freak accident there were no Royal Cores on the AH. Usually these things go for a measely 100-300 on a good day. So I toss a bunch up there at 2000-3000 buy out... and they were actually selling and quickly at that. This went on until someone came by and fixed the market by putting up 20 @ 100 CR each. Supply/Demand would tell us that the large number of Royal Cores available would result in low prices. But the truth is that the auction house is practically the sole bottleneck of the marketplace. It is the sellers setting low costs which determines the price of goods. If all the prices were inflated 10x as was the case of the Royal Cores then people would still buy them and with no hesitation to do so. At some point the prices could be inflated to levels where no buyer could justify the cost, but we are no where near that point as sellers.

There is also a downward force on the price that sellers determine, which is that we are selling the stuff that we don't want. We don't want it so we don't value it. In most cases we don't even care how much it sells for, as long as we get more than if we just vendored the thing.

To some datums...

1) For useless UV, you can easily make 8k CR. But you must have no competition selling stuff at 1k b/o and you need someone who doesn't know better to happen by with spare change. Most of the time you are only going to make 1-2k due to the market dictated by the sellers. So just pay attention to the market, and if you don't need to have a fast turnaround on your items then wait until the environment is optimal to maximize profits (if you care to do so.)

2) Double/Triple UVs are all over the place. A smart buyer will not pay extra for that extra UV, especially if it is a low and especially if it doesn't stack properly with the item. The market if full of buyers that are not smart. Just put that Triple UV on the AH for 150k CR and try not to feel guilty. The anomynity helps.

3) If you are selling a Very High then having the optimal damage UV on a weapon will help a lot. In the case of something like a Flourish you can get 10x or more than you would from a non-optimal Very High. Even Highs do well. When you get down to Low/Medium then there are competing forces... someone who knows Flourish stacks with Fiends would hopefully also know that a Low isn't a worthwhile UV. You'll pull in only slightly more for a Low Beast than a Low Slime. Actually, try putting them both up for the same starting price at the same time. The slime might come out ahead, sadly.

4) You'd be surprised. Optimal Low/Medium CTR/ASI only does 1.5 to 2x better in pricing compared to non-optimal... as long as you are talking about Low-Medium. So if a Flourish CTR Low goes for 5k CR the ASI would be more like 10k. High/VH is a different story.

5) Triple UV... all Low-Medium... mostly incorrect UVs for the weapon... just sell it on the AH. You'll get a great price for it. Easily over 100k if the market conditions are correct.

Sat, 02/04/2012 - 00:34

Rommil

seems like

you could just not put buyouts on them, liek you had been.

also, i just sell junk uvs for same as no uvs. i sell low useful uvs for 1-4k more than no uv. just try to do it systematically.

i alwasy get +3k for a low undead!! lets try +5k and see what happens. that worked? +8k, do i dare?

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