Its to prevent people from wall hugging and spamming charges with relative safety. Its just one of a few challenging aspects that's left in this game.

@Demonicsothe That doesn't make sense. Being an inch away from the wall isn't any more dangerous, and plenty of other weapons can be used with your back to the wall with no issues whatsoever. Sentenza and AP have the same issue with their charge attacks. It's an issue with the hotbox starting over your character and running into the wall behind you.

The same thing happens with the Polaris charge shot and a few other weapons (I can't think of them right now, but they are mostly guns)

Combuster and Acheron (sometimes Voltedge, at least from my experience) charges have some pretty respectable knockbacks

Like Xairathan have said, all those charge attacks are being absorbed while brandish charges are not.

Dont tell me that you would use Polaris charge to exploit while you wont use brandish charge to spam and feel safe?

Also it happens with water bubbles. Dont tell me that water bubbles are such a big threat to make them explode when you are hugging wall? Same thing happens with Gran Faust, if you are going to tell me its to prevent wall hug spamming charge you are insane.

Seriously, please stop telling same myth "OMGNO its to stop exploits and wall hugging" all over again just becouse you heard it somewhere. This is BUG.

It affects multiple weapons, claiming its to prevent spam charge in corners is ridicolous since it affects weapons/projectiles that are taking long time to charge (GF) or which charge is relativly useless (Polaris) or it even affects non-offensive pickups (water).

THIS IS BUG
IT HAS TO BE FIXED

It's funny because the sealed sword charge makes you step forward, but the faust/avenger steps you back...

Our issue is with wasting a charge because of standing 1.5 steps away from the wall.
The charge attack not working if your back is against a wall wouldn't be an issue if the charge attack didn't have a habit of making you step back so that your back is against a wall.

And if OOO didn't want us spamming the DA charge when we can't back up, they'd make gaps cancel the beams too, not just walls (or gates or gravestones or about any random obstacle).

Didn't you take advantage of the previous bug with the DA? I didn't see anyone complaining about that.
Who has actual confirmation frm the developers that it's a bug? Until this is confirmed, stop whining.

Charge? WTH? It's better to use 2+2 instead of 1 big. Unless you got CTR:VH...

IMO corners are the best place to fight in when there's a slag-only population. Unless you're pinned in by fire breath, the DA swing is a very useful thing in mass-destruction. My only problem with this charge "bug/problem" is in those rare cases where I back against a wall strategically and forget that my attack is going to get absorbed... and then I become slagbait

My recollection is that the wall bug was introduced as an unintended side-effect of fixing a different exploit.

The exploit: By standing next to a wall, facing roughly parallel to it (not really, but you get the point), and performing an old DA charge attack, either the left or the right bullet blade (depending on which direction the knight was facing, obviously) would spawn on the other side of the wall and would be able to trigger ghost blocks or damage enemies.

This would allow you, for example, to do the FSC rocket puppy room backwards (though you can still do this by shocking zombies or with alchemer ricochets), or clear away the walls in the last room of D27 FSC before stepping on the party button, or (I believe) destroying the wheel launchers in the first party button area of D24 FSC.

The devs changed the attack pattern of the bullet blades so that they spawn roughly inside the knight, so that they can't be spawned where you normally couldn't reach with a weapon. However, in doing so, they inadvertently made it so the rear of the blades could collide with objects behind the knight. If that object was solid (like a wall), then the blades essentially misfire.

There's no reason whatsoever to suspect that the devs were unhappy with people firing off charge attacks while backed into a corner. If they were unhappy about tactics like that they'd just put spike/status traps in those corners rather than make the charge attack inexplicably not work.

It's a bug in the same way that the slag guard attack used to damage you if you were standing behind it when it started charging.

I'm pretty sure this has been around since before the charge exploit fix, but I can't say I'm 100% sure and I'm too lazy to look through youtube clips to prove it :P

Yep. Just get a brandish line in the mean time. DA being amazing is a thing of the past.

Why would you have your back against the wall in the first place? Safety? Pff, slow swords are the most defensive swords, if you can't "feel safe" anywhere you stand with that thing, you're doing it wrong

This game is too easy as it is.

If you think it's a bug the post this in the bug section.

^ Alynn, the problem is that the Devs don't consider this feature as a bug. They probably made the projectiles stop so you can't use the charge in the corner for some reason. I agree that it probably does quite annoying when you have everything in place and ready to melt some zombies, but for some unknown reason, it just doesn't happen. I think you'll get used to using the charge in open grounds eventually. And if you do get cornered, just use the knockback to your advantage or shield bump. As you get used to this aspect ofthe DA, you will naturally avoid using the charge by walls. :)

For all of those ragging on how the DA is OP, I don't really care, I don't like it anyway. But that is not an excuse for not addressing this 'bug'. The fact is that this problem is not unique to the DA. As Xairathan has pointed out this problem also affects:

- Pulsar line
- Catalyser line
- Anitgua line
- Magnus line
- Faust line

(i.e. anything that pushes you backwards with the charge)

Of the weapons affected, I'd say only the DA is overpowered.

@Duke My Callahan charge doesn't fire if I'm backed up against a wall (double checked in training hall)

Point taken about the alchemer and blaster lines.

My hypothesis: There may be (in the coding or whatever) a differentiation between regular 'bullets' and other 'projectiles'. If you think about it the alchemers/blasters just have a bigger bullet as their charge, whereas the other charges require the formation of a 'projectile' (I'm assuming the callahan charge is not just a larger bullet). This would explain in the 5* antigua lines (sentenza/argent peacemaker) why the regular 6 bullets still fire but the eagle/hawk projectile doesn't fire.

If this is the case it may in fact be by design (or maybe by poor design!). However it will also mean that it shouldn't be too hard to fix (I think?) and I think it deserves to be changed.