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Mon, 02/06/2012 - 08:50
Nordlead's picture
Nordlead

So, today on my last elevator of the morning I got a mod calibrator on the prize wheel (awesome!!).

So this speeds up my decision on getting trinkets since I have everything I need for the 4* version and I might as well get some benefit now. I have an Elite Slash Module already and I plan on doing a SGW run soon but can't make up my mind on which to get. I think it is between the sword focus, quick strike, and bomb focus trinkets (unless someone has a better idea). I mostly sword, but I do love spamming my Voltaic Tempest.

My for SGW will probably be

Crown of the Fallen
Skolver Coat
Crest of Almire (or BTS)

Combuster - CTR low (or Voltedge - ASI Low)
Barbarous Thorn Blade
Magma Driver
Voltaic Tempest (or freezing vaporizer if that makes more sense)

Elite Slash Module
???

I've heard you don't have time to charge weapons in the shadow lair, but I have time to charge in FSC with 24 zombies in a small room. I haven't seen pictures/videos of SGW in crowded areas so in my mind I don't see why I wouldn't be able to. So does that make my Voltaic Tempest pointless, or will a Elite Bomb Focus Module fix that? If the bomb can't be charged, can I charge a sword? If I really won't be able to charge either, should I just settle for a Elite Quick Strike Module, which to me seems like the least useful of the 3, or do I have it all wrong?

Mon, 02/06/2012 - 08:57
#1
Bopp's picture
Bopp
VT and SB are very good in SGWW

Shivermist Buster is extremely good in SGWW. I've never seen Voltaic Tempest used there, but it's probably very good as well. Your party should definitely have one of these, or maybe even two, for backup.

If you are your party's primary bomber, then bomb CTR makes good sense. If you are the backup for a good bomber, then maybe just get more sword damage? By the way, your loadout looks great.

Mon, 02/06/2012 - 09:19
#2
Nordlead's picture
Nordlead
eh, I don't know who my party

eh, I don't know who my party is yet besides my brother, who is also primarily a sword user :-D Once he gets all his gear set I'm going to see if I can find some people to do a run with. So for now I'm the primary bomber :-D

I'm hoping to find 1-2 people who have experience with the shadow lairs who would be willing to share the price of a key. But since it won't be for a little while I haven't bothered to try and find a group.

Mon, 02/06/2012 - 09:33
#3
Demonicsothe's picture
Demonicsothe
Asi trinkets doesn't seem

Asi trinkets doesn't seem like it would benefit your swords beyond what they are already capable of. Another damage trinket would serve you well, although I'm not sure if the 5* would put you over maximum. Bomb trinkets woul benefit bombers more, as they can max out ctr without having to sacrifice armour. Since you only have one, the bomb trink would only help you out 1/4 of your entire arsenal.

Mon, 02/06/2012 - 10:12
#4
Bopp's picture
Bopp
oops

Oops. If you carry BTS, then you will have max sword damage, so don't get the second sword damage trinket. But my gut feeling is that a shadow shield might be better than a piercing shield, because of the howlitzers (although I did SGWW with BTS). So I guess my recommendation is CoA and another sword damage trinket.

If you have some time before your SGWW run, and you want to bring your freeze bomb, then I recommend upgrading it to 5-star first. The 5-star bombs have much bigger radii, and hence much, much bigger areas.

Mon, 02/06/2012 - 10:41
#5
Mohandar's picture
Mohandar
offense > defense (aside from latency)

Personally, I find increasing offense to be much more effective than defense. I tried rabid snarby in full Valkyrie/CoA, and found that I performed much better with Skolver/BTS even with no shadow defense, although this was all pre-nerf. It's possible wolvers are no longer much of a threat. But this choice is also dependent on latency- if you have a high latency connection, you will probably want a more defensive setup.

For sword trinkets, I recommend getting the ASI module. Between elite quickstrike and slash modules, you can compensate for any shortcomings in your loadout. I usually aim for very high on both DMG and ASI, especially for heavy swords. More recently I've been into brandishes, so I aim for very high on CTR and DMG.

The most useful trinkets for a knight who relies primarily on swords, in my opinion (grouped roughly in order), are sword DMG, ASI, and bomb CTR (get 1 of each ASAP, the last only if you plan on being a support bomber), and sword CTR, DMG, ASI (your next three trinkets).

Obviously, bomb-primary knights want bomb DMG, 1x or 2x depending on whether you run Volcanic Demo or Mad Bomber, and possibly a bomb CTR trinket if you aren't already reaching maximum with UVs and gear bonuses. Gun-primary knights want 2x DMG trinkets hands down, possibly a CTR if you charge spam alchemers/autogun; the gunner style is horribly underpowered without them, and is only of average power with them.

I am also curious about defensive trinkets (from Brinks)- can anyone weigh in on whether they find those trinkets to make a significant difference?

Mon, 02/06/2012 - 12:15
#6
Bopp's picture
Bopp
defensive trinkets

I have all of the Brinks trinkets. I used them before the offensive trinkets were released. Now I use offensive trinkets almost all the time. For example, I might use a shock trinket when heating up shock-vulnerable armor in a shock stratum, or something dumb like that.

Mon, 02/06/2012 - 15:14
#7
Jonathansiu's picture
Jonathansiu
Lol I have exactly the same

Lol I have exactly the same armor/shield setup as you do, and I have tried SGW with both crest and BTS. Generally, after the nerfing, wolvers are hardly a threat and you should have no problem dodging them. Even though the turret bullets are still a bit annoying, you shouldn't be taking too much damage on your shield if you are quite fast on your feet. Therefore, I would just take the BTS if I were you and make a bomb CTR.

Mon, 02/06/2012 - 23:50
#8
Fradow's picture
Fradow
I also did SGWW after the

I also did SGWW after the nerf, and the shadow shield is not really needed (btw, if you can take Skelly instead of Crest).

I found that after the nerf, the hardest part is now the boss, that's why I would go with BTS. Having one person with Dread Skelly in the party to tank Howlitzers skulls is nice tho.

I would take a bomb CTR trinket too. Or perhaps a sword ASI trinket : i'm not sure if without ASI you can attack cancel wolvers before they hit reliably.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 07:17
#9
Nordlead's picture
Nordlead
ok, I'm leaning towards bomb

ok, I'm leaning towards bomb ctr trinket and taking my BTS. I wanted to bring the shadow shield for only one reason, tanking howlitzer skull explosions. I know I can trigger them with my gun, but it isn't always a reliable option. I do know that my brother is working on a dread skelly shield, so maybe I'll just ask him to tank the howlitzer skulls.

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