Spiral Knights - Firestorm Citadel in Proto

Firestorm Citadel in Proto - Depth 25 (0*)

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Thu, 02/09/2012 - 01:00

Zinqf

Depth 25 FSC - 6 sprite run done using nothing but the defaulted starter set.

For those who don't know exactly what I use when doing a "Proto" run of content, here's what I use.
Spiral Sallet (0*)
Spiral Culet (0*)
Proto Sword (0*)
Proto Shield (0*)
Proto Gun (0*)
No Trinkets, No UVs, All Solo

D25 FSC in Proto (0*)
http://youtu.be/KwBxQq7e9wg

The source files put the run duration at about 42-43 minutes total. Several speedups (and slowdowns) are used to make the video short enough to be watchable and still leave the integrity of the run intact.

Gear is shown at the start of the video and upon finishing the 6th sprite room.

If anyone wants to see other things, the videos are on my YT channel http://www.youtube.com/user/KyrosQuickfist?feature=mhee

Other Proto Runs (With Upload Dates)

Twins Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvfAorJox-Y
Roarmulus Twins - November 16th http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXPHu7nZ4Fo

RJ Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoC1kVIMZY8
Royal Jelly - November 22nd http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJ0rHWiqvt4

RJ Sequel Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDZwAnWsYL0
Royal Jelly Sequel - Jan 29th http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ND1VoqrV4ms

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 01:19

Fallenafm

Your soundtrack reminds me so

Your soundtrack reminds me so much of Perfect Dark

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 03:18

Zinqf

@ Fallenafm

The entire soundtrack IS perfect dark. I say it in the video and in the description =)

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 03:21

No-Thanks

Zelda

glad to hear some good gaming music, no personal music taste crap lol

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 05:19

Zinqf

@No-Thanks

Indeed.

And yes, this is the first zero star gear ONLY run of an FSC level. I did FSC + Vana with proto + 5* weapons + Trinkets...wasn't even worth my time or effort to upload it because any experienced FSC runner can do that.

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 05:37

Mk-Vl

Your patience is legendary

Your patience is legendary lol. One question, would you have used a proto-bomb for any of it?

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 06:13

Sorou

Proving, yet again, that gear

Proving, yet again, that gear and true skill are pretty unrelated in this game.

Excellent work.

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 06:34

Playerman

@Moonarr

@Moonarr I think he's said this before, he wanted to use the starter gear. The Proto Bomb, while sharing the name, is not part of the starter gear.

@Zinqf Nice run. :P

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 07:47

Zinqf

@Playerman, Sorou, Moonarr

Thanks =)

@Moonarr - Playerman layed out my thoughts on the Proto Bomb. If I WERE to use a Proto Bomb though...it would be for Victory Fireworks xD.

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 08:51

Myllakka

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The amount of patience that it took to do this boggles my mind (I didn't even have enough patience to watch the whole thing instead of skipping around). Kudos!

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 09:50

#10

Vokster

Kudos to you for this. Very well done. ^^

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 11:13

#11

Demonicsothe

This had to be said

Inb4 Ren "gj on a useless boring run that is obviously original and the fist fsc video ever"

followed by

"is what I would say if I wasn't banned for having opinions."

Good run zinqf. That patience is legendary.

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 11:21

#12

Fallenafm

Oohhh :p I did not read the

Oohhh :p I did not read the description, I thought it was the same as what you said above about the time ha, full screened instantly, and did not watch the very end till now. Well, good job on music and run :)

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 23:14

#13

Zinqf

@Fallenafm

Indeed, it took me awhile to devise a proto run of tier 3 content that was doable AND watchable at the same time. Keep in mind the main reason I haven't messed around with Proto Vanaduke is because "watchable" is thrown out the window and there is no "thinking outside the box" with Vanaduke....just lots of SLOW dps and 6-8 hours of pure patience.

I WAS gonna take the trojan from the southeast fire panel room and use it to friendly fire all the zombies in the middle, but I needed to keep the run under 45 minutes (20 minutes with speedups).

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 23:20

#14

Mrgreedy

Interesting

To bad they nerfed FSC. I would've loved to see you attempt 27 with only proto before the zombies lost there auto aim. Overall I'm pretty impressed and would only like to see one thing other that you do. Use no vita, so FSC with only 5 hp. It makes for less error and more proto abuse.
And how I would love to have 4 bars for connection.

Anyways good luck with your journey to FSC in proto.

Fri, 02/10/2012 - 00:05

#15

Zinqf

@Mrgreedy

The day I'd hear "Too bad they nerfed FSC" in response to a pure zero star run of one of its' levels...made me lol IRL. When I started this game around August, no one ever took a pure 0 star set outside of TIER 1 unless they were trolling a mob or two at the start of depth 9.

You sir make me smile because I have a better idea of exactly how much the bar has been raised in this game with the videos I release.

Fri, 02/10/2012 - 08:34

#16

Zinqf

Hm, I understand your post now Mrgreedy

You are that guy who did FSC and Vanaduke in full 5* gear (Trinkets, DA, AP, Blitz and Shiver) with the exception of the head/chest/shield and called it a "Proto Solo".

And don't complain about not having a 4 bar connection, you sustained a 3-4 bar connection the entire time you were in FSC and Vana. There are actually people with 1-2 bar connections that would be offended by you "playing the lag card" here.

Instead of being defensive about how FSC got "nerfed" and someone else did one of the levels with pure zero star gear, why not look at the other pure zero star vids? Go ahead and do any of those. You don't even have to look for the vids, the links are in the original post.

Fri, 02/10/2012 - 10:27

#17

Kurapika

d-(^_^)-z

I agree with the post above. Don't try to pull the lag card with a three to four bar connection. Flaming threads is pointless, it only makes you look worse. Legendary patience Zinqf, I commend you. It would be cool to go back in time and do a Proto run with autolocking zombies to compare the difficulty with what is it today. I personally opposed taking off zombie autolock, FSC is almost a joke to solo now. Wish I could upload videos, but sadly my computer only has the power to run one thing at a time. Any recommendations for recording programs that would be able to run on my old Windows XP computer? (it has less than a gig of ram lol).

Fri, 02/10/2012 - 14:13

#18

Xylka-Mkii

Finally, someone to do a run

Finally, someone to do a run with me next time I go :)

Fri, 02/10/2012 - 14:14

#19

Zinqf

@Kurapika

The best thing to record in terms of...everything would be fraps. Although, less than a gig of ram is harsh. GL =)

And....Zombies have always been a joke. FSC was never harder because zombies were in it, in fact old zombies made it easier. They made a mob that basically no one got hit by anyway and nerfed their ability to hit people. Out of all things in FSC, the "Difficulty" of zombies wasn't make or break for a successful run xD.

@Xylka-Mkii - lolz

Fri, 02/10/2012 - 14:15

#20

Xylka-Mkii

:D But I wasn't joking. No

But I wasn't joking. No one else in my guild wants to go with me T~T

Sat, 02/11/2012 - 02:14

#21

Mrgreedy

@Zinqf & @Xylka-Mkii

@Zinqf
I didn't mean do offend you. As your runs are awesome. And you should also know that my original run was with AP, DA, VT and Shiver. The video your thinking of was a day later. And yes, the patch nerfed the monsters, I know as I did FSC in Proto with only 5 hp before the patch with only a antigua, unfortunately my computer gave me issues on the 5th phase of vana 40 minutes into the fight. But back on topic, FSC is way easier since that patch for a gun only.

@Xylka-Mkii
You still play, I hardly ever see you on. And there are still people in the guild that do FSC.

Edit: My bad on forgetting "armor" on the end of 2 of the videos. If you look at my original video it states "proto armor". Also the video with "Proto Solo of FSC no Vita" Was with AP and Antigua for the only weapons and 2 5* asi trinkets. And I've never called any of my "vana" fights "Proto Solo".
Also you guys took my 4 bar comment out of context, I'll leave it at that.
And as far as doing FSC in pure proto, its to time consuming, something I don't want to do at the moment as my time can be better spent elsewhere.

Good Luck and happy FSC hunting.

Sat, 02/11/2012 - 01:27

#22

Zinqf

@Mrgreedy

I was contemplating doing Proto Armor + Proto Shield + 5* weapons / trinkets in SL Snarb solo...

I farmed another shadow key and was about to do it when it dawned on me...there are alot of people who would simply degrade the video completely due to the wolver/zombie nerfs. In fact, I realized it wasn't worth my time if more than HALF of people would simply disregard the run as JUNK with that reasoning.

If there's any good news coming out of this, I might just do starter and t3 guides maybe. Cause starter gear --> T2 and T2-->T3 are milestones that most players need alot more information on.

Sat, 02/11/2012 - 02:33

#23

Mrgreedy

@SL Snarb run

You know, doing a SL Snarbly run solo with only proto armor + shield +weapons and trinkets of choice would be worth seeing. Despite the monsters being nerfed, the run has enough mobs to overwhelm you I see it as one amazing accomplishment if you can do it without dieing (or only a couple of times). Kats and Howls would provide the most challenge of the run. But what I would really like to see is a good recording of SL FSC solo without dieing. Gear of your choice. (That is easier said than done)

@guides
Sounds like a good idea, maybe i could learn a trick or 2 from you. I know when i started it took me a week or a little longer to realize there was a AH.

Sat, 02/11/2012 - 03:18

#24

Ufana

Nice run and that video is

Nice run and that video is surprisingly watchable!

I'm wondering though, why you didn't use fire vials (and possibly ice for the "breaking damage"). Were you trying to avoid using advantages that depend on randomness / luck or did it just slip your mind?

Sat, 02/11/2012 - 04:15

#25

Metagenic

wait

there are alot of people who would simply degrade the video completely due to the wolver/zombie nerfs.

Like any of them can do SL Snarby in proto…

Sat, 02/11/2012 - 05:00

#26

Zinqf

@ Ufana

Making the video watchable was one of the things I really tried to do, thanks. And as for vials, they didn't really do any gamebreaking damage enough to use them. Especially because most everything was immune to curse. The gamebreaking damage came from the friendly fire =)

@Metagenic - No one else has done Pre-nerf JK in 2* gear, in fact...no one has really done post nerf JK in 2* gear (that I know of yet). You'd be surprised the critique I get anyway. Although that along with being bored and curious encouraged me to raise the bar to 0* gear completions.

I do have to keep things like that in mind when I do make a vid, making it something that people want to watch is just as important as the difficulty of the completion.

@MrGreedy - There is already a SL FSC solo and a couple Darkfire Vana Solos out already, look em up...Exileddread comes to mind. If you really want to know what would be INSANE to solo...SL IMF or Ice Queen Palace. There's a reason why there isn't a solo vid on either (especially in the case of Ice Queen Palace). IQP may be the easiest SL to do in a group, but its downright unforgiving solo.

Sat, 02/11/2012 - 05:24

#27

Ufana

The gamebreaking damage came

The gamebreaking damage came from the friendly fire =)
I was mostly thinking about fire vials against the trojans you had to kill yourself. Doesn't that do about three times the dmg you do with proto gun for quite a while?

when I do make a vid, making it something that people want to watch is just as important as the difficulty of the completion.
Yes, and at times as hard to do than the run itsself, unless it's really a première (like when shadow lairs were new).

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Firestorm Citadel in Proto - Depth 25 (0*)