PFFF its unfair.

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Irevolutioni's picture
Irevolutioni

I have been bidding on flourishes with Attack speed increased high. And most of the time its at long,
And when I go to sleep and come all I see is that I got my Crowns refunded.
This happened three times already.
And it starts to annoy me.
How come other players have adventage of time zones :S
When I go to sleep the Auction always end when I login in.

My Point is that the AH should have the EXACT time on the item.
So I can return at the time when it ends.
This happens not only to me but to other players aswell.

Besides of that there should be a way to see the time limit when you are on runs. (Happened alot either) I couldn't go to clockworks because the time limit.
Mostly when I do boss runs or any random level and I return to the AH its ENDED.

Maybe THREE RINGS COULD do something about THIS

~Irevolutioni~

Enclavean's picture
Enclavean
Instead of bidding on AH, why

Instead of bidding on AH, why not go to the bazaar part of the forum and arrange a trade with someone selling an ASI High flourish?

Fallenhope's picture
Fallenhope
I AGREE!!! but this thread

I AGREE!!!
but this thread should be in the suggestions section....

Tom-Awsm's picture
Tom-Awsm
I find this irritating as

I find this irritating as well, but it separates more easily the people who really want the item auctioned off from others. The changes you are suggesting would most likely add on several bidders to every auction that you bid on just because it's easier to track and follow.

Irevolutioni's picture
Irevolutioni
Enclavean

The Forum Bazaar is worser then the AH.

Most of my threads on the Forums are unreaded...
Which causes nothing then wasting time

Irevolutioni's picture
Irevolutioni
Tom-Awsm

You are right.

It should be on RARE items and Good Uved Items.

Uv must be High or VH to be shown as exact time.

Digguisawesome's picture
Digguisawesome
Hey r u still there?

Hey r u still there?

Digguisawesome's picture
Digguisawesome
Im srry its outa the topic

Im srry its outa the topic but any1 here knows when the snarbolax avatar come on the forumn prefrences?

Irevolutioni's picture
Irevolutioni
Digguisawesome

.....

IDK I am not a MEMBER of THREE RINGS.

Now ask it to a GM or something.

Maeko's picture
Maeko
Ever think that you do the

Ever think that you do the same thing to them? There are times when you're awake and they are asleep?

The world don't revolve around you, boyo.

Irevolutioni's picture
Irevolutioni
Maeko

Well they are a company, if they want the game keep running.

Then they must please the members of the game.
Its not only me many other agree with me.

End Discussion with you.
Won''t waste my time on you. Bye.

Nordlead's picture
Nordlead
i really doubt you are going

i really doubt you are going to quite over this, and no OOO doesn't have to appease every member of the game. Sometimes people ask for things and they don't understand the consequences of what they are asking for.

Anyways, I sorta agree, but I hate sniping, so I disagree. If you really want an item then this is what you do. If it says Very Long, come back in 24 hours. If it says long, come back every 4 hours. If it says medium, come back every hour. If it says short, come back every 5 minutes. If it says very short, it'll extend the time every time someone bids, but don't leave :-D

Irevolutioni's picture
Irevolutioni
Nordlead

i really doubt you are going to quite over this, and no OOO doesn't have to appease every member of the game. Sometimes people ask for things and they don't understand the consequences of what they are asking for.

Well this is not a thing that brings bad consequences this is just the right of ever buyer.
Besides for the time limit long its unnessacry for me to wake up every 4 hours, and what if it ends in the 4 hours.
You never can be exact.

But Thx for the support ;)

Nordlead's picture
Nordlead
long means that it is 4-12

long means that it is 4-12 hours before it ends. So, if you did check every 4 hours, you can't miss it. If you go slightly longer than 4 hours, then you could. Yea, it sucks if you need to go to sleep, but there is always the next one.

Irevolutioni's picture
Irevolutioni
Nordlead

but there is always the next one.

Sadly it takes to long for the new one..
Besides of that When I have the money to get it I shoulda win it and not get outbidded because I was sleeping...

Tom-Awsm's picture
Tom-Awsm
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@Nordlead: long is 4 - 24hr, but your point still stands.

@Irevolutioni: Don't you realize that putting exact time on any auction, particularly the "good" ones, would jack up the price by an increase in bidders? Kind of like how the featured ones go for more than a regular one because of the increased exposure. And this sentence "when I have the money to get it I shoulda win it and not get outbidded because I was sleeping" makes no sense, because if you're sleeping you are not in the bid war you would have been if you were online, where the other bidder(s) might still outbid you till the point where you don't "have the money to get it".

Demonicsothe's picture
Demonicsothe
Read the wiki on how long

Read the wiki on how long each the time indicators are. Plan accordingly. Not every seller decides to put time limit just for you. Or you can go to /2 and ask to buy a asi high flourish. If someone has it, and you are willing to pay the going price, most sellers will sell. After all, direct trading doesn't skim off 10% the way AH does.

Tengu's picture
Tengu
heh here's more "I'm not

heh here's more "I'm not getting what I want, OOO needs to reprogram for me...OR ELSE" stuff again. Yes, I know you want an ASI high pokey stick for LD. We all want one. Maybe...and here's some critical thinking at work....ragecraft or ragepunch for it. How much are you gonna be paying for an ASI high Flourish, 250k? That's 12 punch rolls.

Here's another idea. Find out how much money they sell for on average, put that amount of cr in a pile, and go of /2 and say "WTB ASI Flourish, ***kcr". Also, post on the forum.

Or, see if you can find a high-ASI flamberge or rigadoon. Same attack speed, slightly less damage, but attack procs.

or stop playing LD. You'll be amazed at the amount of money you'll not be spending.

Irevolutioni's picture
Irevolutioni
Tengu

I Don't only want it for LD, Its for Shadow lair to.
But I get your point.

Rage Crafting or rolling is a risk. And I don't like taking risk...

Irevolutioni's picture
Irevolutioni
@Tom

Bidding wars are supposed to exist always
If not then there shouldn't be a bid section.

My point is Bidding always End up untill the Buyout.
And Because If you don't have enough money to bid on it then you need to bid on something cheaper.
So your point is invalid.

Fluffyfoxxie's picture
Fluffyfoxxie
LD is bull anyways. You

LD is bull anyways. You pretty much NEED to be the typical skolver/FF/BTB clone to do awesome, and there are very few exceptions to this.

Wodanct's picture
Wodanct
Advantage of time zones?

Advantage of time zones? There is no advantage. I am in the USA. Now if I put an auction up at 6pm my time for two days it will end at 6pm in 2 days. If I put it up at 4am (noon +/- over in Europe) it will end at 4am. The only disadvantage for anyone is not being able to see when the auction exactly ends.. instead we get to see very short (1 sec to 5 mins), short (5 mins 1 sec to 1 hour), medium ( 1 hour to 4 hours), long, ( 4 hours to 24 hours), and very long (24 hours+)

At least I believe my times are correct..

I'm not going to moan about people in Europe making auctions end in Europe times. >.>

Ijustgotrippedoff
why not just have auctions that simulate real life

let a user put an item in the auction house on display for the amount of time they wish, at the end of the display time, the auction gets opened for bids/etc.
buy now would allow you to buy the item before it goes up for auction.

then, if i see an item that i really want, and i see that its going to be on display for... 4 more hours.. i can plan for it... maybe even get a reminder when the auction is about to start...

then, once bidding goes idle for more than a few minutes (this could be adjusted)..... item goes to the highest bidder.

this has another plus side.. you dont have to keep a ton of crowns tied up for up to 48 hours, if youre the highest bidder.
you just show up with your crowns, and bid highest.

Tengu's picture
Tengu
@Irev

I sort of misspoke; I meant mist-crafting. Especially if you have an elevator pass, mist means next to nothing. I usually blow my mist on crafting either a flourish or an autogun in hopes of hitting a VH damage on fiend, a CTR high+ or an ASI high+. I have alts doing that too, but I should be focusing on making money, frankly. Those two items aren't very profitable.

Pepperonius's picture
Pepperonius
Auctions

if you have the money to buy the item, and there is a buy it now option, just buy it now. TADA you win the item. If there is no buy it now, plan better. You have the time frames, if you go to bed you forfeit your right to continue bidding. I ASSURE you I do not want a specific amount of time indicated on auctions, because at the 1 second mark everyone will bid. prices will increase dramatically, because it is easier to plan your bid war. Do what the rest of us do: plan.

Alternatively, Chris has a vh flourish for 40k CE. Go talk to him, and now you dont even have to bid. VOILA.

Tom-Awsm's picture
Tom-Awsm
@Irev

"Bidding wars are supposed to exist always
If not then there shouldn't be a bid section.

My point is Bidding always End up untill the Buyout.
And Because If you don't have enough money to bid on it then you need to bid on something cheaper.
So your point is invalid."

I didn't understand much of this. You're just stating the obvious, I don't see the relation.

What I meant was that 1) if you missed an auction that someone won for x cr, that doesn't mean you would have won it for x+1 cr. There is no way of knowing how high the other bidder would have been willing to go. And 2) There isn't always a buyout, do your second point doesn't make much sense either.

You still don't seem to get my main point, displaying the exact end-time of auctions would make more players bid on whatever they are looking for. All the auctions you have won might have been missed by others who might have payed more for it than you. I bet you haven't seen it from that angle before.

Orangeo's picture
Orangeo
Yes, so I can auction snipe

Yes, so I can auction snipe more items...
-.-

Melisan's picture
Melisan
"I'm not going to moan about

"I'm not going to moan about people in Europe making auctions end in Europe times."

Wodanct pretty much wins this discussion

Psychodestroyer's picture
Psychodestroyer
/shrug

Bad luck then. If you want the item THAT badly, you should check the end-time and approximate when it ends so you know how long to stay up/be around. If you know it ends soon, then just wait for it instead of going and doing something else.

Having exact times just makes it too easy for some people, and frustrating for others. They'll just wait until it hits 5 mins and start a bidfest over one item.

Advantage of timezone = non-existent.

Time doesn't pass any faster or slower in any other region. 6 hours is 6 hours, it just depends where you are in those 6 hours; Asleep, eating, doing homework, out or just waking up.

TL;DR: If you're THAT serious of wanting to win the auction, estimate the end time and wait it out. Adding specific endtimes just reduces the work you have to do; instead of calculating an approximate endtime, you just glance up and find it. Don't ask the world to pause so you can get back to bidding.