Spiral Knights - Selling magnificent drawing introducing a new GM to promote the "Year of the Dragon Promo"

Selling magnificent drawing introducing a new GM to promote the "Year of the Dragon Promo"

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Sun, 02/12/2012 - 18:11

Doom-Dude

Title says all:

Want to sell (WTS) 1x Dragon Drawing (exclusive edition)
Starting Bid: 300 CE
Current Bid: 300 CE (Xairathan)
Winner:
End Date: 2/17/12

Description:
This magnificent fan art was hand drawn with fine sharpened pencil followed by shadowing from the purest charcoal in my art set. Afterwards, I scanned it with the highest resolution and re-sized it to 1080p. Last but not least, I made the "knights" at the bottom rainbow colors and touched up and removed any blemishes with Photoshop from my Adobe Master Collection (2k grand in real life).

I will NOT be providing any sort of sample, not even a thumbnail, as for the risk of someone re-sizing it and walking away with my picture without pay. Of course they will end up with definite distortion but then again there are certain programs...You get my point. Thank you for understanding.

Rules:
There will be no horseplay on this thread. Be aware of what your bidding for and don't make your expectations too high. If you are not very sure I would suggest you think it through. It is a beautiful picture in my opinion thus it is black and white except for the "knights" in the logo as I said earlier. Thank you for considering and may the best bidder win!

Sun, 02/12/2012 - 19:18

Doom-Dude

@Edit

The link(s) will be sent to the winner via mail (in game) that is announced at the end of the competition but be aware that you cannot resale it according to my policy. If you are caught doing this I may open a ticket to see if it is ban-able, which I am sure it is. However, on the other hand you can share if that is thy's wish :D

Sun, 02/12/2012 - 18:19

Xairathan

O-kay?

I'm not sure what this is about but sure, 300 CE to open.

P.S. Is this just the wings, or an actual Knight with wings?

Sun, 02/12/2012 - 18:42

Rommil

so many problems with this

i wish you the best of luck, but we are just asking for disaster, i fear.

i have never heard anyone say "this is my picture, and it really sucks because i'm a lousy artist." No matter how great a masterpiece or juvenile a scribble, everyone thinks that their art is amazing. So using yourself as an alibi for how great of a picture you have created is dubious at best.

I appreciate the industry you are exhibiting, selling your art, but i think you should do a little more prep-work before this thread gets under way.

Don't want to show the picture? Well, put up a portfolio, including other fantasy drawings, knights, or anything that could give credence to your skill as an artist. A handful of pictures would go a long ways to showing what quality of work you ACTUALLY DO as opposed to telling us what level of work you THINK YOU DO.

I was going to say more, but i think thats enough to cover it for now. GL, HF, MP.

Sun, 02/12/2012 - 19:07

Orangeo

Theoreticaly, couldn't somone

Theoreticaly, couldn't somone have posted an offer for 1 crown, had no competition, then shared the link with everyone?

Sun, 02/12/2012 - 19:17

Doom-Dude

Thanks you guys for your support

@Xairathan
Thanks for bidding as usual and it is an actual knight, you will see. Promise that you won't be disappointed :D

@Rommil
Thanks for the support. Trust me the picture has a lot of effort so I am not worried.

Um...Actually I did have a old thread with some work and samples. I had my own personal workshop :D It did a mighty fine until it was sent to its graveyard. Made about 1k CE at the least I believe.

This is a good idea, I only provided samples on my old thread but not a whole portfolio. I actually have a portfolio in real life, I should scan them all and make a slideshow thing. I will take this into consideration and put it into good use if I have time...

As always, thanks again :D

Sun, 02/12/2012 - 19:35

Doom-Dude

@Orangeo

...Don't you see that the starting bid was 300 CE and Xairathan just bid on the nice drawing? Besides wouldn't that apply to almost anything :P

Mon, 02/13/2012 - 17:34

Doom-Dude

http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/30737

The link above goes to my old workshop, comment if you wish. Keep in mind the sample there is based on memory and may not be proportionate as commented further along the thread. It was a successful business until it went to the grave D';

Mon, 02/13/2012 - 23:19

Derpules

Is this some kind of joke?

In real life, patrons commission art based on past work. It's absurd to expect people to commission your work based on your own statement that you're an almost competent artist. And yeah, someone did pay--300 CE, on a whim. Xairathan almost certainly has tens of thousands of CE. Plus, 300 CE is what--60 cents?

Do yourself *and* your customers a favour. If your work is actually not terrible, provide your portfolio. If your work is good, this will allow customers to value it appropriately, so you don't shortchange yourself. And if it's. . . less good, it's only fair that they know what they're getting. Right now, this listing is the equivalent of one that says:

"WTS Sword

For sale: one sword. I won't tell you its star level or UVs, but trust me, it's good!! Accepting bids now."

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 14:56

Doom-Dude

@Derpules

Thanks for the advice man, but didn't you see I provided my link to my old workshop? It has some of my work so...That kind of is contradictory to your statements. Besides don't do this to my thread...Exactly what happened at my old thread. Ask Xairathan himself, I drew him a picture for his B-Day and I am sure he thought it was decent if he is bidding. This is a serious business and I am extremely hurt that you even considered this a joke! Don't jump to conclusions!! I like your comparison but as I said, I posted a link. I am not exactly sure what the last few statements of the first paragraph meant but if you are saying the amount I am charging is under priced and it might give someone the wrong idea then you are incorrect: Some people provide art work for free as you know, I will be happy too if asked :D

PS: Sorry if that sounded harsh I just feel like someone is stereotyping me...

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 17:51

#10

Cuppy-Cake

TL;DR so i may be missing the

TL;DR so i may be missing the point. But why can you not watermark the image so people can see what they are bidding for without stealing your work.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 18:07

#11

Ezduzitt

Samples like this? -

Samples like this? - http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/6823610/img/6823610.jpg Source - http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/30737

Ehhh...

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 18:14

#12

Derpules

I guess "as crappy as it can get"

is pretty crappy. D:

Man, if you're better than that now, you'd be wise to post some scans of your best stuff, not your worst. And uh, rotate them first?

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 02:42

#13

Round-Shinigami

This is my work. I spent many

This is my work. I spent many years drawing it and all the details in it. Be amazed. And pay me 10.000 ce for it:
http://www.lindaslearninglinks.com/stage2.gif

/sarcasm

I believe SK is not the best place to sell your art - you can't even use it for an avatar on forum.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 03:39

#14

Thrillhaus

^^^ Based on that sample, the

^^^ Based on that sample, the notion of people walking away with your drawing is the last thing you need to be concerned about. If you're serious about improving your skills, any constructive criticism you might glean from posting a sample will be worth more to you than whatever imaginary bidding war you think would be averted by posting a thumbnail.

You're deluding yourself if you think someone would take the time, effort, and possibly money to acquire software that doesn't even exist in order to rip you off.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 14:47

#15

Doom-Dude

@Derprules Yup I guess that

@Derprules
Yup I guess that was crappy, but good for like a 2 minute drawing, by my standards. Oh yea and these days I scan my drawings not like before when I started my business.
@Ezduzitt
Your point...
@Round-Shinigami
Agreeable but I have done so before so I might as well give it a shot. Just hate how people comment on the thread and not actually bid on it D:
@Thrillhaus
First of all, I would like to agree about most of what you said. Not sure if you are saying that no one will bid on it but if so then look, because Xair already did :D

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 17:34

#16

Cuppy-Cake

You didnt reply to me :( Show

You didnt reply to me :(

Show the image you are selling, but put a big watermark over the front of it so nobody can steal it/ claim it as their own.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 19:19

#17

Fehzor

Wait a second... so... let me

Wait a second... so... let me get this straight~

-You drew something about a dragon?
-You won't show it or anything else you've drawn to us at all?
-The one thing that I have seen by you was made in 2 minutes, and looks terrible?
-I'm supposed to just fork over 300 ce for a CHANCE to win this?
-I'm not allowed to resell it once I've bought it?

I'm not too sure about this...

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 19:45

#18

Misogyny

if I were bidding on this I

if I were bidding on this I would expect the original to be mailed to whatever address I provided. if you are asking for small compensations to do fan art that is one thing. but to actually auction it off? I better be getting the original. and for that, providing a screenshot would be mandatory.

Thu, 02/16/2012 - 00:42

#19

Xenocir

Actually I intended to bid on

Actually I intended to bid on it.

But when i saw the sample (disappointment), and some of your the replies.

I kind of changed my mind.

Just some points that came to my mind.

- If you want to show a sample of your past work, show your best one. Not a crappy one.

- If it is really good, 300 ce is too low a starting price.

- Like others, I think you wont get a good price if there is no preview of the art you are selling.

- Your Reply to Derpules : Yup I guess that was crappy, but good for like a 2 minute drawing, by my standards. <--- Still doesn't understand how this line is promoting your work.

- Your Reply to Thrillhaus Not sure if you are saying that no one will bid on it but if so then look, because Xair already did. <--- Are you doing is this for ce? or passion? Or just trying to prove something? From what Xair said, s/he doesn't know what is all this about but s/he is willing to part with 300 ce for this.

I do respect artists and i am not out to flame you or something, all these are just my opinions.

People do respect artists have shown real good work, but not artists who claim they are good but their work show otherwise.

Thu, 02/16/2012 - 14:15

#20

Doom-Dude

New rule!

I like all this advice and all, but I kind of getting tired of all this...If you are going to comment, it must be a bid. I cannot handle any more of this, it is not helping me or you by having to do this. This thread is not a battleground but simply a place to bid on my drawing. I am going to tell you a little bid (don't you love puns :P) more on the drawing as my last wish to hopefully answer all your questions. Keep in mind that I am only doing this because I was a somewhat vague about it earlier. The drawing is of a knight (a GM that I made up) who is clad in dragon armor, some of it is fan art some of it is real, and it is bordered with a Japanese anime. Personally I would believe that any artist would respect the picture but it is up to you, to hit that submit with a bid. I will say it for you all to hear if you are disappointed , mad at me or any other emotion: I am s-o-r-r-y. I really did expect more business out of this but, its fine by me I guess.

Thu, 02/16/2012 - 14:54

#21

Thrillhaus

Actually I believe the rule

Actually I believe the rule is, if we're going to comment, it must be within the ToS. Also I think another rule is, people who aren't admins aren't allowed to make the rules.

The reason so many people are commenting is because your terms are absolutely ridiculous, and some people have a hard time witnessing, how shall I say... "silliness", and resisting the urge to say something. It's the de facto standard in art to post your portfolio when looking for commissions, or the piece itself when selling individual works.

But whatever, it's not my business to give you advice if you don't want it. I'll just vote with my wallet on this one.

PS: What is 'bordered with Japanese anime'? Is there a Dragonball Z collage surrounding the picture?

Thu, 02/16/2012 - 15:02

#22

Orangeo

Writing songs for CE.

Thu, 02/16/2012 - 17:18

#23

Strudul

@ orangeo

I bet they are reeeeaaally good, but ofc I am not allowed to have a sample?

Thu, 02/16/2012 - 17:49

#24

Derpules

"Is there a Dragonball Z collage surrounding the picture?"

Thrillhaus wins the thread. Will you write jokes for CE? I must know.

Thu, 02/16/2012 - 18:44

#25

Green-Teddy

I guess Xenocir is right.

I guess Xenocir is right. This is all for ce

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