Spiral Knights - Type Shift

Type Shift

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Mon, 02/13/2012 - 23:38

Arquebus

Spiral Knights has a lot of weapons with more than one version. This is a very good idea, as it allows us to have a variety of options without needing to learn a whole new style for each one. Divine Avenger / Gran Faust, Nova / Umbra Driver, and Argent Peacemaker / Sentenza differ only in what damage type they cause, but in the context of the enemies we face, are valued differently and are used differently than their counterpart.

With OOO experimenting with changing the dual-type weapons in the test server (Don't do it! They have so much to live for!), now seems like an excellent time to look at this awesome system and see if there are other places it can stretch. SO:

If you could make a weapon EXACTLY LIKE another, existing weapon EXCEPT for its damage type, what would it be? And WHY?
(If applicable, what status would it inflict instead?)

Mon, 02/13/2012 - 23:50

Metagenic

hmm

- Shadow Crystal Bomb: Like RSS but shadow damage instead

- Piercing Antigua line

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 01:15

Severage

@Arquebus:

"With OOO experimenting with changing the dual-type weapons in the test server (Don't do it! They have so much to live for!)"

Are you referring to AP/Sent/RSS? And if so, you really don't want them to change it to pure damage? I think someone lost his sanity.

@Question: Pure-Pierce Antigua line.

~Sev

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 03:16

Arquebus

Yes.

I think RSS already stands up even to other 5* weapons, as any good bomber would tell you, and in the Antiguas' case, I think it would be sufficient to simply increase their "base" damage. You're welcome to look up my posts in the "Possible Changes" thread if you want a clarification on my position, I think I come in about page 5.

I would love love love an elemental Catalyzer, especially if it could inflict freeze. Most monsters weak to elemental don't dodge around, making them ideal cat targets, and freeze would be very helpful when setting up more charges.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 12:30

Serell

I want a shadow

I want a shadow leviathan.
Giant swords of darkness make me happy :)

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 17:15

Skold-The-Drac

Toika lines, Cutter

Triglav deals elemental? Sudas continue to deal normal (up the stunning a little)
Cutter gets a line that reaches FoV (it looks like a cutter... why not? Just make it require an SL mat for 5*.)

Triglav freezes, last I checked that's an elemental concept. Sudas only deal normal damage and could use a light boost in stun since stun is a relatively harmless status to PvE. (Haze bombs aren't hardly worth bringing lest you honestly have a strategy)

As for cutter reaching the FoV? C'mon.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 21:30

Aemicus

The FoV but a shadow version

The FoV but a shadow version that causes curse, like the one the phantoms have.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 02:51

Arquebus

Speaking of Cutter-like swords,

A piercing Cutter would also be pretty boss. Die, trojan scum! Away, pesky grievers!

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 07:41

Softhead

Got ALOT!

Piercing, poison Graviton.

5 star Elemental Deconstructor(Magnus Deconstructor) with a cluster spread.

Shadow Irontech with a larger radius and shorter fuse.

Piercing 5* antigua with a Beast bonus.

Piercing defence Bombastic with a Vh Dmg bonus and ASI vh.

5* Elemental Swiftstrike.

Shadow stun changed into a Elemental set with Gun DMG bonus VH and High fire resist.

5* Shadow Ageis with Ctr bonus Med/High.

Fiend set based on the fish head set. It's a Type Shift of a Emberbreak now with Vh DMG Gun and Shadow defence with fire resist.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:04

Juances

Imagine shadow/elemental flourishes.
With poison/shock for extra kicks.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 14:28

#10

Ztype

@Juances

Well at least that will bring some variety in LD (people would bring elemental/shadow peircing weapons to use against the skolvers), but then, in the end, people will use Divine Veil/Mantle and Skolver Coat/Cap, but of course the weapons will have a variety!

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 15:19

#11

Venrock

Piercing Shadow Brandish?

Why not have a "Flourish-like" Brandish? that does shadow and piercing?

Possible Names:

Shadowthorn Brandish

Blackspike

Nether Edge

There isnt much ik... but its an idea. :D

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