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Tue, 02/14/2012 - 15:10
Doom-Dude's picture
Doom-Dude

Hiring an editor:
I need an editor to edit the novel I am writing now. BTW it's not based on Spiral Knights but I don't want to bother with any dead giveaways either. Only my editor will get further information on what I am writing :D

To qualify you must follow this:

-Must be trustworthy and not give any secrets without permission!

-Must have some prior accomplishments and experience related to the job!

-Must be prepared to revise certain chunks and paragraphs via email!

-Must be able to work for free (most importantly)!

Keep in mind that you will only get out of this is possible (if we finish novel) fame and glory out of this job and not pay, in real life or in game. There will be plentiful who will qualify so to vote for the best I only ask that you right a short passage about something Spiral Knights related to test you skill. Thanks for considering!!
Current Editor ATM: Demonicsothe
(Until another person who is worthy of the job qualifies)

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 15:16
#1
The-Rawrcake's picture
The-Rawrcake
I don't want to write about

I don't want to write about Spiral Knights for my editing application.

What about Pokemon????

Would Pokemon be okay????

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 21:44
#2
Vincey's picture
Vincey
@@

it sounds impossible i know, but rawr you've been 'hired' for free. i guess you really do need an editor doom-dude :P :D

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 16:39
#3
Fehzor's picture
Fehzor
I can um... kill slags really

I can um... kill slags really fast. PICK ME!

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 22:36
#4
Kupoo's picture
Kupoo
Buh huh huh

Hiring an editor:
I need an editor to edit the novel I am writing now. (1) It's not based on Spiral Knights, (2) but I don't want to bother with any dead giveaways either. Only my editor will get further information on what I am writing. (3) :D

To qualify, you... (4)

-Must be trustworthy and will not give out (5) any secrets without my (6) permission!

-Must have some prior accomplishments and experience related to the job!

-Must be prepared to revise certain chunks and paragraphs via email!

-Must be able to work for free (most importantly)!

Keep in mind that you will only get fame and glory out of this job and not pay, in real life or in game. There will be plenty (7) who will qualify, (8) so to choose (9) the best I only ask that you write (10) a short passage about something Spiral Knights related to test your (11) skill. Thanks for considering!!

1) "By the way" is unnecessary as you are still speaking about the same subject - i.e. your novel.
2) If there's a formal rule on comma usage here, I'm not aware of it. However, conjunctions such as "but" are usually preceded by a comma.
3) Missed a period!
4) Not so much a formal error as it is a slight bump in logic. You're not asking someone to follow guidelines as the phrase suggested, but to have certain qualities already.
5) To have a complete sentence, you'll need a verb here.
6) Ambiguity is bad!
7) Plentiful is an adjective, but what you need here is a noun to refer to ("plenty").
8) I added a comma here, for reasons similar to those in #2.
9) This isn't really voting for a particular candidate as it is flat-out making a decision. It's somewhat of a semantic choice.
10) "Right" and "write" may be homophones, but their meanings are different from each other.
11) I'd imagine that this is just a typo, but I'm pointing it out regardless.

There are also a few fragments throughout the passage which I would label as being wrong, or at the very least, somewhat off, but I chose not to highlight them as I don't know if there are any specific rules which apply to them, or if it's just my own stylistic preferences surfacing.

Kupoo giggles.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 23:01
#5
Demonicsothe's picture
Demonicsothe
I am quite confused. You are

I am quite confused. You are hiring an editor for a novel you are writing, but it is not SK related. Looking for free labour on a game forum? At least move it to gremlin chatter.

Edit: Well derp. I guess it was moved from when I first saw this thread. My point still stands though, looking for free labour on a novel, and put in a way that it seems like you will be profiting monetarily from.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 23:30
#6
Starmandeluxe's picture
Starmandeluxe
"-Must be able to work for

"-Must be able to work for free (most importantly)!"

While grammatically correct, the sentence implies you must be able to work for free importantly; it doesn't mean working for free is the most important out of all of the parameters given. In addition, using "must" already means only those who can should apply, so the "most importantly" is somewhat redundant.

A few alternatives (listed in order of personal preference):

"-Must be able to work for free!"
"-Must be able to work for free! (Most important)"
"-(Most importantly) must be able to work for free!"

By the way, is there any reason you only want one editor? Wouldn't it be better to have many editors you can have working on separate chunks of text instead of one editor doing all the work? You could keep the story a secret more easily this way too.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 03:40
#7
Derpules's picture
Derpules
"Hiring" implies pay.

You are a writer, or want to be. Words mean things. Use them correctly.

Also, learn that ideas in themselves are worthless. You could have thought of writing an epic family saga set against a backdrop of war all on your own, but it wouldn't make you Tolstoy. It's what you do with them that counts. The more paranoid you are that other writers will steal your precious nuggets of inspiration, the less likely you are to engage your peers in ways that will actually teach you something.

@Demonicsothe: If he actually manages to profit from this "novel" in the real world, I'll eat a Nitronome.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 05:55
#8
Doom-Dude's picture
Doom-Dude
Whoa!

I make this thread thinking that only a few people will view but them next thing I know its bursting with...Annoying posts that I kind of feel should be ripped of this thread, but then again its your right.
@The-Rawrcake
Um...I already wrote about 30 pages in to the novel and its not about Pokemon so...
@Vincey
>:D
@Fehzor
At the moment thought you did not follow the rules you seem eager enough...for now I will take it into consideration
@Kupoo
Thanks for the advice, I was in a rush that was why.
@Demonicsothe
Lol :P
@Starmandeluxe
*Sigh* Another know it all :P
@Derpules
Stop doing this to my threads!

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 06:24
#9
Derpules's picture
Derpules
First step: learn from criticism.

Or quit writing, and all other kinds of artistic pursuit, right now.

Second step: realise that if your first five years of serious writing produce anything worth keeping, you're blessed. Treasuring the turds you're producing now is the worst thing you can do for your artistic development.

I've been there. I know.

P.S. How old are you, roughly? I really hope you're not out of your tweens.

Thu, 02/16/2012 - 08:08
#10
Demonicsothe's picture
Demonicsothe
I think those annoying posts

I think those annoying posts are ones demonstrating their editing qualities. Quite well too, I might add.

Or were you looking for another kind of editor? I'll apply for that kind.

Oh god doom dude, your works are absolutely amazing. Keep writing, and allow me to bask in your glory of writing such a piece of work that rivals Tolkien and is just about the best novel evr.

That about right?

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 14:40
#11
Doom-Dude's picture
Doom-Dude
...

@Derpules
This is not a pursuit...This is my job.
OK thanks for that advice, see if you talk to me like this, it is to my preference. But earlier comments were a tiny bit to stingy for me, even if I have to learn from criticism. But then again I should always keep my cool :P
P.S Sorry its confidential but if you are implying that the things I do are a little immature and would fit the description of a tween then...Well fine by me :P
@Demonicsothe
That's very possible. So are you actually pursuing to take up this job? Earlier it did not seem like it. I don't mind what kind of editor you are as long as you have good qualities, follow the rules and have some sort of writing/editing experience. Though I would like that "other" kind of editor it just isn't right.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 18:42
#12
Starmandeluxe's picture
Starmandeluxe
"@Starmandeluxe *Sigh*

"@Starmandeluxe
*Sigh* Another know it all :P"

I'm guessing I shouldn't point out your last post has an ellipsis where there should be a semi-colon then. :p

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 19:55
#13
Buckdida's picture
Buckdida
Doom-Dude, you are promising

Doom-Dude, you are promising "pay" that cannot be promised. "Fame and glory?" We have no idea who you are. Now, normally, the WRITER goes to the EDITOR with a full and finished manuscript, a manuscript finished to the best of the writer's ability, unless, say, you're working for a newspaper. Then you can submit a draft to the editor and it goes from there. See, now, what you're looking for a peer-review, and a volunteer to proofread your stuff. You're certainly not hiring someone, because that implies pay. Seriously, that's in the definition of the word. If you hire someone, you pay them a fee for their services. This has been pointed out to you already. Why is that important, and why has it been pointed out? Because it showcases a mistake in your writing, one that the "editor" will need to deal with.

Based on your starting post, it honestly looks like you want an "editor" because you're too lazy to proofread your own stuff. I mean, look at this:
"There will be plentiful who will qualify so to vote for the best I only ask that you right a short passage about something Spiral Knights related to test you skill."

Did you even bother to look that over once before you posted?!

Here's the thing. "In a rush" isn't a valid excuse. You created the screening process because you don't want anyone to waste your time... right? It goes both ways. How do applicants know that they aren't wasting time with you? We don't have any samples of your work, or any idea of your skill, aside from your post- a post riddled with errors, which makes you look lazy in your writing and poor in skill. You haven't even bothered to fix the post after the errors were pointed out. How does an applicant know they won't have their work ignored? We don't know what your project is in the slightest... and "sorry hush-hush confidential it's a secret don't tell anyone NDA stuff" doesn't fly here nor in many places; we don't know if your idea is worth our time or something we're interested in. If you tried that with a real editor, they'd laugh in your face. And what if you "hire" someone, and they hate your idea, or don't like working with you? What Derpules is saying is the truth. You need peer reviews, and you need to understand the more peer reviews you have, the better. Sharing your ideas does not hurt you; in fact, it is quite the opposite. You'll receive recommendations, new ideas and different points of view from angles you did not expect- and that makes the story more interesting. Even better, you can pick and choose from what you like, and pick up new skills from other writers.

The reason you're getting many troll posts is because, with what you've showcased, these people don't think you're worth the time/you'll waste editor's time. Working for free, with no promise of any pay in any form? Working for a low-skilled author, with no idea what the project is about? Does that sound like a raw deal to you? This is what people draw from your post, not the "opportunity" to work on an exclusive project. Would you work for yourself, given what impression you've shown?

Oh. And your entire application screening process is broken. Why? Because writing skill does not mean that the person has editing skill, though the latter helps the former.

And something that's a bit... dodgy. If this REALLY is your job, why the heck are you advertising on a forum for a somewhat small, online F2P computer game?! There are many other, much more relevant websites much better suited to your needs, which may have a more positive response. You know, like the websites that have to do with WRITING. Of course, you may have chosen the SK forums for a very specific reason... though, as I've implied, we have no idea what that reason could be. Unless that reason is, "they're free."

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 22:20
#14
Demonicsothe's picture
Demonicsothe
Or considering another possibility

We all just got trolled.

Thu, 02/16/2012 - 01:42
#15
Derpules's picture
Derpules
This is the same guy

trying to auction his drawings on the bazaar. Two threads so far. Seems pretty earnest. . . .

Thu, 02/16/2012 - 01:43
#16
Derpules's picture
Derpules
double post

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Thu, 02/16/2012 - 05:38
#17
Doom-Dude's picture
Doom-Dude
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@Derpules
I double posted? Must of been an internet problem, something with the uploding speed most probably. Well thanks for informing me.
@Demonicsothe
I am pretty sure everyone has done some trolling :P
@Starmandeluxe
Why can't we have more people like you. But stop putting me in stitches :P
@Buckdida
I didn't think of it like that, its true. Let me edit the post, thanks for the advice.

Thu, 02/16/2012 - 08:07
#18
Demonicsothe's picture
Demonicsothe
If I may, for future

If I may, for future candidates who are willing to edit for this guys, point your attention to post #10. The kind of editor is the kind that exists in the bolded section.

Thu, 02/16/2012 - 14:06
#19
Doom-Dude's picture
Doom-Dude
@Demonicsothe

By all means, man :D

Thu, 02/16/2012 - 14:17
#20
Doom-Dude's picture
Doom-Dude
Edit:

I will have my editor set, tomorrow, so if you want to complain, go do it elsewhere, time to get to the hardcore stuff!

Fri, 02/17/2012 - 17:14
#21
Doom-Dude's picture
Doom-Dude
@Demonicsothe

Editor is set! You shall be the one!

Fri, 02/17/2012 - 17:31
#22
Demonicsothe's picture
Demonicsothe
Great?

Great?

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