Hello! I was just wondering what do you guys think the best weapons are? Here are some questions I want you guys to answer in your own ideas!
-What is the best sword?
-What is the best Handgun?
-What is the best Bomb?
-What is the best Overall Weapon?
I'm not asking this for advice (trust I'm plenty happy with my current arsenal) but more of opinions.
This is for fun so try to have some! :D
^ troll ¬_¬
anyway...
best sword is Levi because it's all around
best handgun is Polaris cos it's boss
best bomb is Voltaic tempest because its boss
best overall weapon is.....Barbarous thorn blade i guess :P
Well, OP question is a trollbait anyway ...
Levi is bad because it's normal
Polaris is bad because the knockback is annoying and it prevents itself for maximising damage
Voltaic Tempest is bad because it doesn't do enough damage
BTS is bad because it's useless against Constructs/Jellys.
See how it's easy to say everything and it's contrary on what is good without any context ? (I'm not saying any of those weapons is truly bad here. Just that "the best" is highly situational).
Sword:
-I think the consensus would be one from the Sealed Sword line, either the Gran Faust or Divine avenger. The DA is the most popular.
-Any of the 5-star Brandishes are strong as well, especially the Acheron
-The cutters have strong chage attacks
Gat:
-The Autogun line produces some very powerful charge attacks, but not being able to move for a while is tough
-The Antigua line (especially the Argent Peacemaker) are popular but have too many weaknesses
-Polaris has incredible power and knockback
-The Alchemers have their charm
Bomb:
- Easy, the shivermist, because it freezes everyone in their place, it has a huge radius, and it is a must for FSC runs.
Overall
-Probably the Divine Avenger. It's charge attack takes out several enemies at once and pushes them far away.
There is no "best" anything, and as for "powerful", it depends if you mean per hit, or DPS.
Da is good, but overrated. Brandish is equally good.
Cutter might have strong charge attacks, but it is unsafe.
What weaknesses does antiguas have? Post patch, because that is all that matters.
Shiver is only useful for vana fight. Elsewhere, it interrupts knockbacks and leave the swordsmen open to attacks. Heavy sword users depend on knockback/knockdown to keep themself safe during the recovery.
I prefer people who understand what they are doing, not properly geared and unable to understand options in my fsc groups.
After using it, I will say that DA is NOT overrated, but it is a bit overused.
Cutter does NOT have strong attacks, it has fast weak attacks.
The antigua line's main weakness is low damage.
Shivermist does NOT leave swordsmen open, they can just attack from behind. But the thing to be careful of is that you don't barricade your team with unshovable enemies.
Overrated as in, overhyped and stuff.
Cutters overall damage might be high, I have no idea. Giving him the benefit of the doubt.
Low damage, if a weakness, is not a huge one. It has fast shots and enough damage to make up for the comparably low damage per hit.
Shiver prevents people from stacking enemies near each other to hit multiples. If you need cc bombs, a vortex or tempest would work better.
Ha ha it was kinda funny how this did turn out to be troll bait. well it was worth a shot. XD
"The antigua line's main weakness is low damage."
@_@
Go deal 3,000 damage AoE charge attacks in FSC with an AP and then come back and tell me the antiguas are bad damage. Yeah yeah I know you can double clip a blitz needle and deal 5,000 damage charges but that is only concentrated into two enemies where a majority of the damage can fall off, not utilized as AoE to shave a large crowd. Assuming you fan a Blitz Charge into a crowd, bullets can A. miss and B. not double clip.
This is with max gun damage folks, not vog cub or swordie trinkets.
And don't forget it is most likely the best single target damaging gun out there due to firing rate and damage. I need to heat my AP at 10 then I will be able to find out for sure which gun is the absolute best with max damage and max ASI using normal attacks.
For now, best gun should be antigua single target damage wise but I do not know this 100% sure. Charge attack is amazing AoE damage when you learn when, how, and where to use it. Normal attacks are amazing single target damage.
of the Flourish line.
Makes a hot mess of beasts and fiends obviously but in my experience it also works really well against undead and gremmies (quick and tends to break their attack patterns), plus the speed and forced movement in the attack series is highly effective distraction armor if you get used to it.
totally useless against slimes and constructs for sure but overall a handy toy to have on hand!
As far as the Shiver goes, I'm primarily a swordie and I have zero issues with frozen enemies making my life harder, can't be beat for crowd control!
Absolute best weapons in the game? The Wiki and players who take advantage of it and practice.
im not sure about guns or bombs,but i do know that the most powerful sword(and probably the most powerful weapon overall) is the banstick.unfortunately,only the GMS have them.only seen one video of it,and there were 4 players and a gm right infront of the elevator that goes to the core and the players were asking the gm to kill them with his banstick,and so he did.the charge went through their shield and left them with 1 health.pretty sure the banstick wins overall.....its too bad only GM's get them......
The weaknesses of Antiguas are the slow movement speed while firing, low damage per bullet, and the difficulty to stagger monsters. I already did calculations, Antiguas have the highest single target DPS in the game unless you've got unrealistically good Alchemer bounce aim.
slow speed while firing? Say hello to every gun in the game, if not guns that immobilize you, while firing...
Low damage per bullet? That is kind of irrelevant with a fast firing rate.
With low damage per bullet and fast firing rate, we have to look at different benefits, like it is easier to take out a howlitzer head after it dies.
On shivermist, I agree with Demonicsothe, it's a pain for slow swords users. So much that sometime when someone use it I just sit there until they stop. I consider it good only for Vanaduke fight and freezing trojans (not that it's really needed for trojans).
"Shivermist does NOT leave swordsmen open, they can just attack from behind"
Yeah, until the mob turns because someone else fired at it. There are also times when it's simply not possible to go behind. When mobs are back to a wall, on spikes, forming a line ....
Also, as said Demonic, it prevents from regrouping mobs, which greatly lower the slow swords effectiveness (and thus, the party dps, since shiver isn't going to do the damage ...).
If you don't have any issue with Shivermist, you are either mostly charging or not agressive enough. In which case, you don't do as much dps as you could. It's a fine way to play, especially when you are not very experienced, but understand that some people are looking for optimization (especially on this sub-forum).
I'm starting to hate shivermist more and more except in very specific uses (vana, trojans, putting out oilers). I've convinced a lot of the people I play with not to use it any more in FSC except for those 3 uses. It slows down my Voltaic Tempest (keeps all the monsters separated) and it slows down my swords (can't hit more than one at a time since they are stuck in place) and provides no real benefits when fighting large mobs since I can keep them at bay with my VT and Brandish of choice. It is probably the 3rd most useful haze bomb (after AoA and VT). Only reason it outclasses Venom Viler and Stagger Storm are those bombs don't have significant FSC potential.
EDIT: if you really want crowd control, get a graviton or electron vortex. Combine those with a VT and sword attacks you have a deadly weapon that sucks up all the monsters, kills them fast, and keeps everyone safe.
If you have EV, I don't really think VT is all that necessary. If you really want shock that bad, just attack the cluster with Voltedge and give them STRONG shock.
@Rawrcake: Try firing one shot from a Driver/Valiance while moving. Now do the same with an Antigua. Drivers give you way more mobility.
There is no strongest weapon
It depends on the situation
OH no there is the strongest.
Iron slug.
Cautery Sword, they'll never see it coming...
No offense but i have to admit the first dude Fradow is correct! (no im kidding.)
I have to admit after hearing you all talk...
The originals are the best: DA, GA, AP, Im not sure whats so good about sentezna.
BOMB； nitodome！huge！
To say the least its worth the four dollars + beating the mission.
Sentenza works just fine once you get used to it. It's sort of like blitz needle, except you have to fire all 6 shots yourself instead of being anchored. So this means it may do less damage than, say, Shadow Driver, but if you focus it on one enemy and make your shots hit, you'll be surprised how fast the damage adds up. Plus the charge attack penetrates enemy squads.
@sword:
Most DPS in S6 with
basic attack:
Brandish line on Shadow/elemental weak monsters
570DPS with ASI max and now Damage UV. (DA is "only" 500DPS)
BTB/Flourish on piercing weak.
however, the DA has more pushback.
Charge Attack:
Fang of Vog.
I like the Brandish line more then DA/GF because u are much more mobile.
However DA and GF just look great. (phallic symbol :D)
-What is the best sword? For power? Probably Gran Faust. For never ending fun? Voltedge
-What is the best Handgun? Pulsars are cool, never got one though. I've got my eyes on the neutralizer.
-What is the best Bomb? My current favourite is the Graviton Vortex.
-What is the best Overall Weapon? Not applicable, but just go for the fun swords. These include, voltedge, winmillion, wild hunting blade, etc.
@Fradow: It's nice to know that someone read my user page :P
I Really Like Iron Slug And BioHazard, A Lot Of People Say they Dont Like It, But I Do, I Beat Jelly King In 10 Charge Shot's (Or I Think 15 Or 17)
Then I Shot Him *BOOOOOOOOM
DUDE HE BLEW UP!
But Also Iron Slug Is Good To, But BioHazard Is Good Against Any Situation, (Except Wolver's And Gremlin's)
So Just A Thought :-)
Oh Yeah I Forgot, Winmillion's Are SUPER WEAK!!!!
And that Is The Worst Sword, And There Is Not A *5 Star Serie's
Also, I Studied That Sword, And Guess What ( I Studied It On SpiralKnight's WIKI)
IT IS THE WEAKEST 4 STAR SWORD!!!!!
No Lie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! XD
For best weapon on constructs and undead BY FAR warmaster rocket hammer because of The all elemental damage but the dash is anooying if you can't use it right because it'll run you into spikes but if you know how to use it you will be a BAWSS! P.S. I'm doing this on my phone So it's hard to type
Add me if you want hammer lessons and cya in LD or FSC
Sword: Brandish for charge, Flourish for normal attack.
Gun: Blitz.
Bomb: RSS for damage, Vortex for support.
The best weapon is the Brandish. Good single and multiple target damage. Charge attack is both safe and effective.
"What is the best overall weapon?" is a meaningless question. Every weapon is situational.
edit: Ah, this thread is from forever ago. Sorry for supporting the necro...
Again, wrong.
There is no such thing as a "best" sword, gun or bomb. Every weapon has its own advantages and disadvantages.
Brandishes are no exception. For example, against a crowd of monsters, such as Slags in FSC, Divine Avenger normal attacks and charges can be way more efficient. Brandishes excel at single targets, where as DA excels at mobs.
IMO
Elemental:
Sword: Warmaster rocket hammah/Voltedge
Gun:Storm/Hail driver
Bomb: VT/EV/RSS (RSS may suck after the new update)
Piercing:
Sword: Fearless rigadoon (it stuns WAY more than you think)
Gun:Callahan(overall) Plague needle(Supporting 3rd needler) Blitz needle(1st-2nd Needler) Antigua(t2)
Bomb: RSS (RSS may suck after the new update)
Shadow:
Sword: Acheron
Gun: Senteza
Bomb: DR
Normal:
Sword:Leviathan Blade
Gun:Valiance
Bomb: BAB(Most POWERFUL not "best")
~Sppw
Hm.
Best Sword - Slashy smash sword of slashysmashing.
Best Gun - Shooty gun of pewpewpew.
Best Bomb - Exploding bomb of kaboomsplosion
Best weapon - Smashy pewpew bomb of slashy kaboomsplosion.
"^ troll ¬_¬
anyway...
best sword is Levi because it's all around"
that gave me a good laugh.
Wait, were you being serious?
In my honest oppinion....
sword:Fang of Vog or Triglav(i dont care what you say,FoV is amazing for alot of things not to mention its charge attack,and triglav has an amazing charge attack as well.)
gun:polaris or volcanic pepperbox(polaris,well,its kinda obvious why.volc. pepperbox is one of the funnest weapons,in my oppinion,and the fire is pretty useful as well.)
bomb:electron vortex(lets face it,its an incredibly useful and fun bomb,and when paired with a suda/triglav's charge attack,nothing stands in your way.)
best overall:there is none.theres only a best weapon for different situations.
~Magnicth the Dragon Mage
- Proto sword is the best sword
- Proto gun is the best handgun
- Firecracker is very powerful
- Overall, an enraged wolver beats everything without problem. Try to tame one.
Else, you could read about damage type, think about weapon fitting a role instead of being "the best" and read about the tons of similar subject which all take, more or less, the same answer.
Bottom line is : there is no best (although some weapons are a bit better and some other are only for hipsters *cough* Winmillion *cough*).