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"slow" piercing melee weapon?

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Sun, 03/04/2012 - 12:58
Randomzz's picture
Randomzz

Ok, so I was looking at my inventory, then on the wiki, and it just seemed odd there aren't any piercing melee weps that are slow/have knockback/have a wide arc.

EVERY other damage type has both "slow" and "fast" melee weps-
Elemental: DA/Brandish series
Normal:Troika line/Calibur line
Shadow: GF/Acheron

And many more examples.

But piercing only has fast swords, namely BTB and FF. And honestly, I kinda wish there was a slow sword. When I use BTB's charge on wolvers, they want to dodge, and FF will only drive me into the middle of them (or out). And the regular attacks I usually end up getting between 3 and getting hit, because the arc is only wide enough to really effectively take on one or two bunched up. So I actually just use my FF on fiend/devilite levels and beat up wolvers with my Gran Faust. it doesn't get the piercing bonus, but I feel much safer within my knockback arc, and generally take less hits while engaging 3+ wolvers with a single strike.

So what if we had a slow wep, even if it was just like a mace with spikes/nails coming out or something? Or a lance, or scythe or ANYTHING slow ad piercing? Am I the only one that would like that? Come now, sure some more of you have thought about this facing alpha wolvers in arenas

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 13:04
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Severage's picture
Severage
@Randomzz:

FFs/BTBs have a wide arc for a fast sword, which is why they're great for 1-hitting then shield cancelling; not to mention they have one of the fastest cancels I've ever used. They have like a 160 degree slash before they start jabbing forward.

As much as a spiked mace would (I suppose) fulfill the requirements for a Piercing weapon, I'd like something that seems more like it would pierce. A Mace seems more like Normal/Piercing or something.

~Sev

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 13:22
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Serell's picture
Serell
Maybe a scythe? though i

Maybe a scythe? though i would imagine a scythe to be a slow weapon with split piercing and normal damage

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 13:31
#3
Heste's picture
Heste
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A lance could be used as a piercing weapon and there were a couple of lances in the spiral knights concept art.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 13:34
#4
Randomzz's picture
Randomzz
yeah

I had in mind more of a normal/pierce split than pure pierce. a scythe or lance would be interesting, something genuinely new. And yeah, I know they have a decent arc, that's why I said wide ;) I know you can shield cancel very well with them, that's why I bring them on devilite trips. I'm thinking more of the lack of something you can just unload on a mob with, a balance that is represented in other damage types but not in piercing.

but let's throw out any specific shapes/wep types, would there be support for a slow piercing/ norm-piercing melee weapon?

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 15:08
#5
Demonicsothe's picture
Demonicsothe
I've thought about it as I

I've thought about it as I fought the alpha wolvers in arena. At times, I've resorted to just swinging my gran faust to take them out simply because I preferred that over the toothpick combos.

A lance sounds good, or a spear type weapon.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 15:09
#6
Demonicsothe's picture
Demonicsothe
>.>

Double post.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 15:51
#7
Iron-Volvametal's picture
Iron-Volvametal
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Lances, ohh yeah!

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 18:23
#8
Serell's picture
Serell
@Ironskullkid : Thats a big

@Ironskullkid : Thats a big lance O_O

Mon, 03/05/2012 - 01:46
#9
Diamondshreddie's picture
Diamondshreddie
Ahem...

i think its time for a JELLY SWORD

lol XD ive had this idea so long, and ive just wanted to get it out there, maybe do a lil art

it would basically look like a sealed sword , bt smaller blade, with a big square-ish "blade" of jelly around it, with some brute jelly spikes portruding from it! thus making it piercing

as for the charge i was thinking along the lines of the giant lichen colony ground spike attack mixed with DA charge

Mon, 03/05/2012 - 20:34
#10
Randomzz's picture
Randomzz
awww

no more peeps like this idea? :(

Mon, 03/05/2012 - 21:18
#11
Alpha-Stevo's picture
Alpha-Stevo
Just wanna throw in the past

Just wanna throw in the past suggestion of a Jelly Club, spines in it, of course. Matches the Jelly Mail line.

Mon, 03/05/2012 - 22:12
#12
Maeko's picture
Maeko
@Iron -EDIT +1-

YOURS IS THE LANCE THAT WILL PIERCE THE STRATUMS!

WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK WE ARE?!
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--this message brought to you by a TTGL marathon caused via tvtropes.--

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 21:37
#13
Aemicus's picture
Aemicus
The problem with that is that

The problem with that is that piercing is mainly used against the extremely fast enemies (wolvers, fiends), and why the hell would I want a slow weapon to fight them when the fast one already covers the same amount of ground on the first swing.

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