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Bomber...without bombers' armor?

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Mon, 03/05/2012 - 23:02
Metagenic's picture
Metagenic

Here's what I was thinking. Bombers' choice of armor is terrible because all four sets are only elemental and normal. So I was thinking: would it be better to use other gear plus bomber trinkets or just use bomber armor? Like, when I want to fight Royal Jelly with bombs:

Setup 1: Deadly Virulisk set + 2x Elite Bomb Focus Modules. Result: piercing and normal defense, very high damage bonus vs. slimes, and maximum bomb CTR.

Setup 2: Mad Bomber set + Elite Boom Module and another random trinket. Result: elemental and normal defense, maximum bomb damage bonus, and maximum bomb CTR.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 00:32
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Demonicsothe's picture
Demonicsothe
Defences, once your skill is

Defences, once your skill is appropriate, does not matter much since one can dodge enough hits to stay alive.

First set sounds pretty good, to be frank. Good defences, and enough bonus damage to use ctr trinkets. 2nd set, in comparison, takes much more damage for a med boost in damage. I think virulisk is 5*? If it is, then the 2nd loadout seems to be cheaper, saving energy on crafting an extra trinket. Might be a bonus, might not be.

Keep in mind that these are for a bomber who plans to deal damage. You could conceivably go with skolver/azure/other piercing defence sets and use bomb focus trinkets to still achieve max ctr.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 07:15
#2
Alynn's picture
Alynn
.......

So.........you rather get lots of specializing armors (deadly virulisk) than 1 set of general armor (mad bomber/volc demo/merc demo)?

your call. but the first choice is expensive

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 08:10
#3
Demonicsothe's picture
Demonicsothe
Specialzed gear is fine for

Specialzed gear is fine for beginning players, or players who rushed to T3 without learning anything, skill-wise. Its a short term thing, but in the long term, you'll have paid for an extra set than people who went with weapon bonus gears.

It's also useful for people who roll with 4 dps styled weapons, but a wide range of weapon classes. Then, they don't need to use gear that benefits a part of their loadout, but instead all of it against the specific monster type.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 11:45
#4
Derpules's picture
Derpules
Meh.

"Specialzed gear is fine for beginning players, or players who rushed to T3 without learning anything, skill-wise. Its a short term thing, but in the long term, you'll have paid for an extra set than people who went with weapon bonus gears."

Seems like it's also fine long-term, since in the long run, who cares about having spent CE and cr on one more set of gear? Unless you spend everything on amassing great UVs (whether by p2p purchase or mass-crafting/ticketing) or expensive costumes, you'll have CE/cr to burn. Buying one max anything (other than troll UVs) costs as much as crafting multiple clean sets. . . .

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 14:28
#5
Michaelb's picture
Michaelb
Uhh........Herp derp. The

Uhh........Herp derp.

The first loadout might not be very good, and IMO wouldn't compare to
the regular bomber setup.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 14:43
#6
Demonicsothe's picture
Demonicsothe
Perhaps not long run, when

Perhaps not long run, when one has crafted multiple sets and has already amassed thousands of unused ce.

But, when you still only have 3-4 sets, and no real life fund to speed up the crafting of those last few pieces, the redundant specialized sets pale in comparison of that damage/asi bonus you really want to complete.

My point was, to complete the basic 3 defence set, having to spend energy crafting a few pieces of armour you will never use later is rather tim consuming. This is all compared to just sucking it up and holding out with the basic wolver/gunslinger/demo that has the wrong defence for the strat.

I find specialized sets to be viable in a bomber setup, since the only demo suit that gives dmg is an elemental with status weaknesses. And gunners too, to a lesser extent. Shadowsun gives the paltry low dmg bonus on both pieces, thus a dmg bonus could aid a gunner in dealing higher damage without sacrificing trinket slots.

For example, a full set of slime med bonus, gives you vh against them. Add on 2 asi, and you get vh asi/dmg. For comparison, a full set of shadowsun with 2 asi is only med damage with vh asi.

Of course, it is not optimal past a certain stage in the game, I am merely commenting on viability.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 14:43
#7
Demonicsothe's picture
Demonicsothe
Perhaps not long run, when

Perhaps not long run, when one has crafted multiple sets and has already amassed thousands of unused ce.

But, when you still only have 3-4 sets, and no real life fund to speed up the crafting of those last few pieces, the redundant specialized sets pale in comparison of that damage/asi bonus you really want to complete.

My point was, to complete the basic 3 defence set, having to spend energy crafting a few pieces of armour you will never use later is rather tim consuming. This is all compared to just sucking it up and holding out with the basic wolver/gunslinger/demo that has the wrong defence for the strat.

I find specialized sets to be viable in a bomber setup, since the only demo suit that gives dmg is an elemental with status weaknesses. And gunners too, to a lesser extent. Shadowsun gives the paltry low dmg bonus on both pieces, thus a dmg bonus could aid a gunner in dealing higher damage without sacrificing trinket slots.

For example, a full set of slime med bonus, gives you vh against them. Add on 2 asi, and you get vh asi/dmg. For comparison, a full set of shadowsun with 2 asi is only med damage with vh asi.

Of course, it is not optimal past a certain stage in the game, I am merely commenting on viability.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 20:24
#8
Derpules's picture
Derpules
Just one point

In practice, this specific gear isn't really that expensive, because you don't go and get one set for each enemy type, obviously. You gear up for tough fights and strata. So if someone wants to JK really effectively (for whatever reason), they get one Virulisk line set, and that's it--they don't also get a beast set, lol. Or if someone finds fiend strata tough, they get Angelic line, and that's it. So that's three armour sets at most (including the dedicated bomber gear = ele), which is far from excessive. Sword users commonly get 2-3; not that many use just Vog or just Skolver.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 15:22
#9
Margle's picture
Margle
Just a heads up about your Ideas

If you ever want to damage bomb, you'll need DB max, as well as CTR max. Limiting yourself to one class is going to hurt you in the long run, and make you have to either have a lot of sets, or roll a lot of UV's.

2 Mad bombers is meh, unless you are super epic and are able to dodge 10 lumbers at once while looking at 6 gun puppies and 2 rocket puppies. still getting in hurt range. Or you are rich and can roll VH UV's on your stuff.

Volcanic/mad + 2 elite boom is the best bet for someone who wants to damage bomb. CTR max DB max. Just roll for a shock UV on the mad bomber.

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