--On creating items.
The higher tier stuff removes A LOT of content you can do each time you make them. Seriously, a 3 star items costs 100 CE? That's 10 FLOORS. Easily 1-2 hours of play time. It's ridiculous that in order to advance in the game you have to restrict how much you can actually play for. I'm not saying to remove the costs for reviving or elevators. Elevator costs make sure you don't get a free ride through the entire game. Want more play time? You have to pay. I understand the necessity of this. Same for revive, the energy cost encourages playing with other people ( This IS an MMO. ) for free revives and it prevents people from being as reckless with their health.
But to reiterate, all recipe costs do is lower the amount you can play with the amount of CE you purchased while at the same time being required to advance in the game. It essential forces you to buy more CE than you really should need.
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Remove energy costs
Just floors alone isn't enough to make people buy CE, especially when there EXISTS an energy market to begin with.
Think of it this way: If I pay for CE, I want to get a leg up on the competition. That's why I'm putting money into a F2P game. If all I'm getting is the ability to play LONGER, I don't think I've gotten my money's worth. Anyone can play longer if they play well enough, and paying only to find you're falling behind someone that got lucky with his recipe drops is just a bit depressing.
CE has to be used for SOMETHING substantial, and equipment's a good option.
Well alkanshel, think of it this way.
When you pay a subscription fee for a high-profile MMO, are you paying so you can be better than everyone or are you paying to play? It's already bad enough you end up paying more than the standard $15 a month in order to play this constantly if you have no life.
If they wanted a pay to win system they should just put a cash shop with premium items in it.
I'm paying to PLAY the damn game.
But...I can ALREADY play this game. Ergo, I want to pay to get somewhere. Premium items doesn't make sense, because I'm not paying to be better than everyone, I'm paying to get where we're all headed FASTER. Premium items just makes it stupid (I have the sword of killing-all-free-players-instantly! Yeah! I'm cool!), whereas being able to invest less time in the game but still progress at a comparable rate...that's something I'd be willing to put money on. It's trading money for time. It's standard.
Not everyone can put in 6-10 hours a day to play the amount you're discussing.
That's my point alkanshel.
Since we pay to play, there's no reason for us to have to spend 2 to 5 times the amount of a standard MMO and get the same playtime out of it.
They should just add a subscription fee as an option. It couldn't negate CE costs, as that would crash the market. Something more like your ME limit is increased and it recharges faster.
I don't even play the 6 hours a day on this game anymore, it either costs too much actual money or you don't earn enough crowns to actually upgrade at a reasonable pace ( 100 CE is 4k now ):< ) Since everything requires CE, you end up using CE at a much faster rate than it's worth IMO. It's like 400 CE for just crafting a t5 set, right? Not only is that 40 floors, you have to account for the floors you play just to get the materials needed to actually craft it. The amount of money required to play this game is ridiculous unless you mix paying real money and paying crowns for CE. You shouldn't even have to do that.
Good Luck trying to change a system that has been there for ages especially on weapons if they dont cost energy to make it I am sure it would easily ruin the market. You dont need all 5* gear I did a T3 run got to the core with all 4* gear its not so hard, and my partner had some 3* and 4* gear on him and he got to the core with me...
Removing energy from the game for crafting would be stupid and detrimental to the game. Removing energy is not the solution people, knock it off with this nonsense.
dude if you want people to read this post i would move the "on creating items" to the subject line. otherwise some people are going to come in here and rip you apart without even reading what you have to say lol