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Wed, 03/14/2012 - 04:10
Shion-Sinx's picture
Shion-Sinx

hello, im fairly old in this game but i wasnt playing for a long time, and now we have a lot of really good weapons and sets.

im using kinda noob equips yet:
- dusker cap and coat
- 3* owl shield, building a dark thorn shield
- avenger, dark thorn blade
- blackhawk, silversix, industrial catalyzer

i want to make a new elemental sword, glacius or combuster (much faster than avenger/divine avenger; in a future probly a voltedge), and will make an acheron too for shadow.

so which one you guys think i should go for, fire or ice? there is a big difference or either will do?

also i pretend to finish my set in:
- snarbolax cap (normal/shadow)
- barabarous shield (normal/piercing)
- vog cub coat (normal/elemental)

is that good or its better to have both vog cub and snarbolax sets? maybe a skover too?

i mean, it is really worth the trouble to have a different set for different missions or a good set all-round is alredy enough for PvE?

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 04:36
#1
Cocosnake's picture
Cocosnake
all the armor u need for this

all the armor u need for this game is Vog Skolver and Snarbolax

that's it

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 05:00
#2
Godzy's picture
Godzy
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and penta heart trinkets

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 06:13
#3
Shion-Sinx's picture
Shion-Sinx
Cocosnake

but i need all of them ( 3 coats and caps)?

and what about the sword?

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 08:30
#4
Bluescreenofdeath's picture
Bluescreenofdeath
You only need penta-heart

You only need penta-heart trinkets for Lock Down. Weapon Modules are waaaaay more useful for PvE.

I would make an Acheron first, so you have a shadow blade. Combuster is my vote for Elemental sword (it is even great in FSC with out the status effect, acts just like Acheron).

Glacius gets on my nerves. I can herd mobs into better clumps with Combuster or Voltedge (Volt may be best for clumping them).

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 09:29
#5
Nordlead's picture
Nordlead
I prefer Combuster of

I prefer Combuster of Glacious since I don't care for freeze much. Voltedge is nice, but I still prefer my Combuster for pure damage and only really switch it out on fire themed levels. Both Voltedge and Glacious prevent monsters from riding the full waves of explosion (shock or ice stop mobs from flying, while fire doesn't).

For armor, I would do something like Vog + Skolver for starters, then get a piece or two of snarbolax (you have to do a shadow lair to craft a snarbolax piece). While no shadow defense can suck, skolver will help in the shadow snarbolax lair, and vog would help in FSC, so would be useful sooner. If you know someone who will drag you through the shadow lair, then snarbolax becomes a more realistic first choice. If you can get a full set of each, then you are golden (assuming you primary swords) since you can mix and match for every situation. Only downside is no shock resistance on wolver line gear.

I wouldn't bother with heart trinkets, since they are small compared to 12-15 vitapods, and I'd rather have the CTR, ASI, or DMG bonuses.

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 15:10
#6
Shion-Sinx's picture
Shion-Sinx
~

so i guess the best choice is starting with a vog cub cap/coat and upgrade my owlite shield to max elemental and farm in FSC, so i can make the skover and snarbolax faster?

i ll start working in the combuster and acheron, i was alredy plaining to craft brandishes to try a nice UV but i think i can do it later when i have more founds to afford a UV hunt. or maybe i make only an acheron and stick with my avenger a little longer so i can farm to a UV hunt right away when cafting combuster.

and using the bonuses from vog cub i think i can have a better use of ASI trinkets instead of DMG ones. is that right?

and tyvm for the tips ^^

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 15:16
#7
Demonicsothe's picture
Demonicsothe
Should also work on a

Should also work on a piercing weapon.

Avenger is perfectly fine for FSC, the upgrade is even better. Brandishes are good in fsc, even before 5*

Read this on bonuses

Acheron is shadow, if you are confused on brandishes. It is great for RJP, which you farm before doing fsc. Upgrading to 4* and leaving it there is enough to get your through rjp easily. You will never use shadow weapons in fsc, so 5* upgrade is not necessary until you upgrade your elemental weapon.

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 15:47
#8
Shion-Sinx's picture
Shion-Sinx
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oh, i put my current equips in the fisrt post, i do have a dark thorn blade for piercing ^^

thats why i NEED to make a shadow weapon ASAP (aka silent nightblade) while keep 'pushing' my avenger as far as i can so i dont need to build more than 1 combuster path (to get good UV).

and if is not asking much, can you tell me which are the mission ranks which i should aim for to better farm?

im stuck in 6-2-2 (or 6-2-3?), axes of evil, to pass to next rank, and i can farm in the Rise or Fall.

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 15:56
#9
Demonicsothe's picture
Demonicsothe
Rise or fall is good. There

Rise or fall is good. There is 3 T3 arenas in the missions, so those would be good to farm if you can do them.

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 16:23
#10
Shion-Sinx's picture
Shion-Sinx
ugh

i really hate arenas. they are cool and chalenging, but its hard to find good ppl to help and solo them its impossible until i have at least full 4* set

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 16:36
#11
Demonicsothe's picture
Demonicsothe
Rise or fall has an arena,

Rise or fall has an arena, no? Just continue to farm that. The profits are quite low though, and if you can get a basil jump to arcade rjp, it will be better.

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 16:50
#12
Shion-Sinx's picture
Shion-Sinx
well

yeah, its about 3k per run, so 100 mist becomes 9k, which is only 1.5k + mats + 100 CE

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 01:00
#13
Bopp's picture
Bopp
obligatory

"i mean, it is really worth the trouble to have a different set for different missions or a good set all-round is alredy enough for PvE?"

My secondary character uses Divine Veil with Skolver Coat in ALL situations. My primary character almost never uses this combination, but rather uses various specialized armor sets. I recommend that you get a general-purpose armor set, then try various weapons, and then get specialized armor sets.

For more detail and other ideas, you may find my sword guide useful.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 02:07
#14
Shion-Sinx's picture
Shion-Sinx
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so my idea back there about snarbolax cap, vog cub coat and barbarous shield is good enough?

today i crafted my nightblade, just need to bump it to lv5 and farm a lot to get 400 CE.

and so far im not using weapon slot upgrades, so i can not use optimal dmg on all enemies.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 10:32
#15
Demonicsothe's picture
Demonicsothe
You can't count shield

You can't count shield defences as part of your overall defence.

The shield protects itself, when you activate it. But when you are shielding, you suffer a movespeed penalty and not being able to do anything else. Bopp's set has defences against all 4 damage types and moderate resistance against the dangerous status.

So while your shield can take piercing hits, any diect hit of a piercing natue to your knight will hurt.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 14:28
#16
Shion-Sinx's picture
Shion-Sinx
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oh i ll try that then.

after i do a specific set, like vog cub for FSC

on a side note, i think veil its ugly as hell xD

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:00
#17
Halandin's picture
Halandin
That's what costume armor is

That's what costume armor is for. :D

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:53
#18
Shion-Sinx's picture
Shion-Sinx
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absolutely xD

and WOW, KoA is hard as fk, i died like 15 times i guess.

Sat, 03/17/2012 - 16:43
#19
Shion-Sinx's picture
Shion-Sinx
what about

if instead of Divine Veil (elemental + shadow) and Skolver Coat (normal + piercing) i grab a Vog Cub (normal + elemental) with Radiant Silvermail (piercing + shadow)?

so this way i have the cap alredy for FSC, even if Skover gives dmg bonus.

btw, im still trying to make enough money and CE to craft cap, armor and slient nightblade; alredy have:

- avenger, dark thorn blade, nightblade
- dark thorn shield, horned owlite shield, jelly shield (normal def MAX)
- blackhawk, silversix (CTR high), industrial catalyzer
- still dusker coat/cap

Sat, 03/17/2012 - 16:59
#20
Demonicsothe's picture
Demonicsothe
Radiant silvermail + vog

Radiant silvermail + vog protects you from everything, but only poison, curse, and fire. It also gives you Asi med and damage bonus against undead med.
Divine veil + skolver protects you from shock, fire, freeze, and curse. It gives you damage med, and damage vs fiend vh.

The 2nd set protects from more dangerous statuses. The 2 sets are approximately equal in elemental defence and fire resist, so neither is better for fsc.

Sat, 03/17/2012 - 17:13
#21
Shion-Sinx's picture
Shion-Sinx
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i mean, with vog + radiant i ll alredy have the elemental cap, just need the vog coat to complete a FSC armor.

Sat, 03/17/2012 - 17:53
#22
Demonicsothe's picture
Demonicsothe
That's true. But you can also

That's true. But you can also just craft full vog. Divine veil + skolver is for people who runs almost every type of gate, and doesn't want to change/craft armours for each type.

Sun, 03/18/2012 - 12:04
#23
Shion-Sinx's picture
Shion-Sinx
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problem with that is that im just missing the 4* to go to rank 7 (crafted ash coat just now), so i think i might need a shadow and/or piercing equip to finish all rank 7 and 8 before enabling FSC.

so as you said that skover + veil have better status protection i ll go for it, using my dusker cap to make a vog cap for later.

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