Spiral Knights - We need new rare monsters

We need new rare monsters

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Wed, 03/14/2012 - 21:00

Amnimonus

I'll get straight to the point, there are three rare monsters that you can currently see (or that I have seen) the love puppy, imposto cubes, and mew cat.

First of all there not a challenge so it just make them a relief to see.

Out of all of them the love puppy is the only one with valuable drops (when it drops some thing that is).

So I think it would be great to add some new rare monster that are very powerful and have the chance of a rare drop.

Here are some ideas:
-a cursed greavers: they would have the chance of inflicting a curse status ailment just as much as any other greaver deals any status other ailments. They would also have other attack such as shooting long range curse bullet (not the way the do when attacking but like gun puppies), they would have quick dash attack in which they quickly fly through knights (knights can get caught in the knock back a get hit multiple times). It would also have 3 times more health than most greaver and take a whole tier less of damage. (tier 3 exclusive)

Rewards: cursed greaver wings

- a dual wielding trojan: So instead of giving dual wield to knights, I think it would be better to do the opposite and give it to enemies instead. The trojan will have no shield but it will have a much higher defense and HP. Behavior wise it will be for more aggressive than regular trojans, there attacks will consist of 3 hits and they would have a charge attack similar to the levi's.

Rewards: trojan sword or armor (their star rating wil depend on the tier aquired from).

a nova cube:

It would look like the bast cubes except they would have spikes around them and a shocking aura and it would be a very dark blue.
Their attacks would consist of ground spike attacks (that can shock you), a spin attack similar t the jk's tantrum attack (except it is not invincible when using it) and the standard tackle. When it dies... lets say it put the ultra blast cube to utter shame. The explosion would be the size of 5 star bomb and have the knock back of the BaB and would then leave a haze (5 star radius) the can inflict fire and shock that last 10 seconds. And thats not all when jelly die it want to take every one with it so during the three seconds it would take to detonate it sucks up every thing with in shooting range (but slowly and not that powerful suction , player who run in the opposite direction would run as fast as if they where stunned (a possible tactic to avoid the explosion would be to ram it with a levi charge ).

rewards: blast cube armor/helm (may be either a cosmetic or an actual piece of gear). If an actual piece of gear it would start off as blast cube (2 star) and can be upgrade to super blast cube then ultra and finally nova (not sure about the stats though).

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 03:00

Mejezfeld

Cursed Greavers will kill the

Cursed Greavers will kill the game but yeah, they'd be pretty boss to fight.

The rewards could be...

I can't think of anything besides Greaver Wing accessories, and it's fairly obvious OOO will keep cool stuff like that as CE promos or for p2pers only

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 03:29

Schattentag

@Mejezfeld

Nooooo don't give OOO any funny ideas, man. A Greaver Wing accessory would be awesome as a reward from such a difficult enemy. Regarding the name of this enemy, how about Amethyst, Opal, or Onyx Greaver? I think the idea of a curse-inflicting greaver has been brought up before and I can't quite remember whether these names have already been suggested, so I'm sorry to anyone who may have done so.

As for a dual-wielding Trojan, I'm not so sure...I feel like they would be fairly easy to defeat if they didn't have the frontal protection of their shields, since they move so slowly. Perhaps a reward from these guys could be a costume helm similar to the one that Spiral Gatekeepers wear, but "flavored" to match current accessory/armor colorings (Regal, Military, etc.).

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 04:37

Mejezfeld

Schattentag, their current

Schattentag, their current line of thought and latest updates show that if they're to unleash ANY cosmetic items upon us it's their prerogative to make sure they are CE promo items rather than "gameplay challenge reward" items.

And by the looks of it they're not going to change that. if there was a time to tell me to "not give them funny ideas", it was the time before Accessories were ever introduced into the game

THAT or to make the chances of getting them in-game so broken that they end up putting them up on the AH themselves.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 05:28

Schattentag

Meh

Yeah you're right, but I can still dream...

...in fact I probably should be dreaming because it's 5:30am here.

I suppose that now the only "feasible" reward would be something like a True Love Locket, just a version of an existing trinket (since they're non-cosmetic) with a different description.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 14:29

Severage

@OP:

You forgot slooms.

~Sev

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 14:50

Schattentag

@Severage, OP

You forgot Soul Jellies.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 16:33

Diamondshreddie

and ...

rock jellies too i guess :P

ive met

- 5 love puppies
- 2 soul jellies
- 12 impostocubes
- 6 Rock jellies (outside of scarlet fortress) 3 in Lockdown XD
- 1 mewkat

i thought there was something else.. but didnt they remove slooms entirely?

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 16:36

Schattentag

@Diamondshreddie

I think Slooms are only found in monster cages now (rarely).

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 16:58

Tapproot

Whadda sloom?

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 17:00

#10

Severage

@Diamondshreddie:

Rock jellies are not rare enemies...they're a common sighting in Scarlet Fortress, and they have a relatively high rate of appearing in substitute of a 3-hit block.

I regret to say that even though I've met many Rock Jellies, Love Puppies and Impostos, I've never seen a soul jelly or a sloom.

Also, Schattentag is correct. Slooms still exist, but only in monster cages, AND as a rare enemy. So...they're an extremely uncommon sighting.

@Zasher:

Slooms are jellies which can put you to sleep.

~Sev

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 20:34

#11

Amnimonus

Wow for a moment I though the thread was gonna die

Time for some replies:
@Mejezfeld : I don't think they would kill the game since there a rare enemy (as common as a love puppy) and I think it would be exclusive to tier 3 levels that all ready have greavers. Your idea for greaver wings as a possible drop would actually be a great. Maybe it can have a drop rate of 10-25 percent.
As for Ce promotion I think that the wing would come in vairites and the cursed greaver wings would be exclusive item drop to the cursed greaver.

@Schattentag : The dual wield trojan would have far more hp than the standard trojan, secondly since there not busy shielding they would be attacking as often a a mecha knight. Thirdly its attack can not e interrupted (I'll mention that in the OP).

@ Severage: I think that soul jellies are the one still available, I think they removed any enemy that could deal sleep after alpha or definitely after beta. I think its because sleep is op when soloing or the fact that in parties they might have exploited the part where sleep heals the victim. But over all I'm not sure, however it would be awesome if they brought them back it would give the royal jellies sleep resistance a purpose.

I got another enemy idea for the jelly family, a nova cube:

Possible drops blast cube armor/helm (may be either a cosmetic or an actual piece of gear). If an actual piece of gear it would start off as blast cube (2 star) and can be upgrade to super blast cube then ultra and finally nova (not sure about the stats though).

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 00:53

#12

Severage

@Scrolax:

SK Wiki:

Under Sloom:

"Location
These rare monsters can only be found through Monster Cages"

~Sev

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 05:24

#13

Aureate

Processing Thoughts of You Always

Did see one Soul Jelly in a Poison/Undead (can't remember which) stratum that was before Vanaduke. It was in place of one of the Toxigels in a Totem Trouble level, but unfortunately it got killed before I managed to screenshot.

Slooms used to be found consistently in the Shrine of Slumber when that was still around, but now, as Severage has said, they're Monster Cage released only.

I would not be objectionable to new rare monsters being released, though.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 05:54

#14

Paweu

Slooms can't be found even in

Slooms can't be found even in monster cages anymore.

http://twitter.com/#!/NickPopovich/statuses/176362932807012353

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 14:48

#15

Severage

@Paweu:

Someone update the Wiki.

~Sev

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 18:55

#16

Darkribbon

Slooms

I've seen a sloom come from a monster cage before, but it was a few months ago.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 19:00

#17

Amnimonus

I updated the older post

I updated the older post. But I'd still like to here more suggestion for rare/strong monster Any one got any suggestion for undead, beast or construct?

Here are my idea's so far for each

Construct: Needle puppy, basically a puppy mixed with a blitz needle with longer range. It would have twice the hp of that of a normal gun puppy.
rewards: gun puppy head costume or helm (like the love puppy version except it doesn't expire if it is a costume)

Undead: I was thinking about Dust slag guards but they wouldn't be rare they would come out of the coffins tier 2 and 3 grave yards. Tier two version would have no shield and tier 3 would.
Drops: idk

Beast: i got nothing

Feed back of any kind would be appreciated I might try to draw some visuals but keep in mind I'm a bad artist, (so i'll get my sis to do it instead)

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 19:19

#18

Severage

@Scrolax:

Construct already has a rare.

As for undead, Dust Slags wouldn't be a bad idea...but...

I think Carnavon Slags would just be soo EPIC...and they could drop like Fausts or summat.

As for beasts...hm...

How about a drake? I mean, we have drake scale armors and stuff..

There could just be a ground-bound drake that can drop drake scale gears or relevant mats.

Just some silly thoughts.

~Sev

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 19:33

#19

Amnimonus

The love puppies rare but..

It's friendly, I want a monster that will make noobish knights soil them selves in fear and strong knights to smile (uneasily though) at worthy opponents.

A drake sounds good can you specify it's attacks ? (since its you idea).

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 20:38

#20

Severage

@Scrolax:

Eh kinda the obvious attacks. Maybe a long range re-textured Chroma spit that would fire off stuff based on its attribute.

Of course it'd have a bite attack, and probably something like a tail swipe.

~Sev

Sat, 03/17/2012 - 18:56

#21

Magnicth

how about a rare form of

how about a rare form of chromalisk?like a curse chromalisk?and if lichens can combine and form colonies,then couldnt they do other stuff as well?like maybe make a lichen that can take the form of a nearby monster,say......a green lichen that is in the shape of a chromalisk and the core is in the "head" of the chromalisk.or maybe like a lumber lichen,a lichen thats in the shape of a lumber?personally i think this would be cool.and what about gremlins?like the pulsar is apperently gremlin technology,so why not make an extremely rare gremlin wielding a pulsar?but i agree,we need new rare monsters.

Sat, 03/17/2012 - 20:13

#22

Diamondshreddie

damn...

i kinda hoped for gremlin pulsar specialists to be a common spawning gremlin... would especially reduce how many darkfang thwackers you have to deal with, if these wentin place of them sometimes...those shields get really annpying sometimes

Sat, 03/17/2012 - 20:23

#23

Magnicth

@diamondshreddie or they

@diamondshreddie

or they could replace the darkfang thwackers with the gremlin pulsar specialists and make the darkfang thwackers rare. :D

Sat, 03/17/2012 - 20:54

#24

Doctorspacebar

How about these? I'll make my

How about these? I'll make my own for each monster type.

-Pterolisk: This winged Chromalisk has a rare chance of appearing in place of any Chromalisk. It moves fast through the air, spitting out random types of Chroma spit at the ground. (Biotechs have noticed the type of spit comes in reverse order of what they've eaten.) It's not hittable while it's in the air, but it may land to strike with its deadly spiked tongue, which is when knights can attack!

-Multigel Colony: This large, strangely colorful mass of Jellies all in one colony is a strange and rare phenomenon that may appear in place of a Lichen. Multigel Colonies are as big as the biggest Giant Lichen Colony. These will "die" faster than most Lichen colonies... only to split into two smaller Multigels! These lesser Multigels, when killed, burst into eight random jellies, including:
--Jellycube (or Impostocube)
--Blast Cube
--Oiler
--Ice Cube
--Toxigel
--Quicksilver
--Soul Jelly
--Rock Jelly
--(VERY RARE... except in Shadow Lairs) Void Gel

-Mecha Knight Champion: Appearing in place of any normal Mecha Knight, this Knight has a larger arsenal and more effective AI. He's got the following weapons:
--Chaos Blade: Mecha Knight Champion uses this like a normal Mecha Knight sword, but its charge attack inflicts a random status effect.
--Gigas Blade: Mecha Knight Champion will hit hard with a heavy sword, that has a two-attack combo and a Troika-esque charge attack.
--Puppy Pellets: Mecha Knight Champion can drop this bomb, and after it explodes, it sends eight Gun Puppy bullets, one in each direction, like Sun Shards.
--Auto Blaster: Mecha Knight Champion shoots a straight stream of eight bullets from this gun.

-Gremlin Engineer: This guy appears in place of any Gremlin Demo, and immediately around him will be four "land mines" like those in Operation: Crimson Hammer. The Gremlin Engineer carries a Wrench Wand that he can point at an enemy to knock them away, but his main function is to build constructs. It takes him a bit to build a bot, requiring three seconds for a Scuttlebot and six for any other robot. He can have up to eight Scuttlebots built at a time, and other enemies count as two Scuttlebots. The Gremlin Engineer can build:
--Scuttlebot
--Gun Puppy
--Retrode
--Lumber (Counts as 4 Scuttlebots and takes 12 seconds)
The Engineer will say the following things in a speech bubble while building:
--"That bolt connects here..."
--"Hmm, what's this thing do again..."
--"Insert the laser right about here..."
--"Connect the red wire to the red socket..."
--"Add that gear there..."
--"Put on the wood club right about there..." (only while building a Lumber)
Engineers tend to drop Mecha Knight Kits more than other pickups.

-Zombie Gunner: Any Zombie can be replaced with this slightly mobile Dust Zombie, which has two Howlitzer-head shoulder-cannons and another Howlitzer head under his arm. When the Gunner takes aim, the two Howlitzers on his shoulders (and, if he's got it, the one in his arm) each fire three bullets in a stream; the shoulder-cannons fire in a slightly skewed direction relative to the Gunner if he's still got the arm cannon. At half health, the Gunner releases the Howlitzer head under his arm, and it acts like a regular Howlitzer head. When the Gunner dies, the two shoulder-cannons act like regular Howlitzer heads, too. However, for this tortorous battle, knights are guaranteed two 50-crowns.

-FR Manager: This manager of Fiend Resources may replace any Pit Boss. In addition to giving out overtime and promotions, the FR manager gives a constant "Attack Up" buff to nearby enemies, and may Death-mark a knight that approaches him "like a boss".

These enemies may drop loot similar to the nature of the enemy (a Zombie Gunner may drop a Shadowtech, for example). If a Multigel Colony drops loot, it will be at the first split.

Sat, 03/17/2012 - 20:56

#25

Hijadestone

One thing

I have herd not seen of a forth rare monster I have not seen it but it was called a meca turent and shot like a retrode any one else herd of it

But yes yester day I saw 2 love puppies in the grooming woods so yea we need some more rare monsters

Sat, 03/17/2012 - 21:14

#26

Severage

@Hijadestone:

Please don't tell me it was this...

~Sev

Sat, 03/17/2012 - 21:50

#27

Amnimonus

@Doctorspacebar and Magnicth

Wow cool ideas thanks for the input i'll put them into the main post when i have a bit of time.

Sun, 03/18/2012 - 09:56

#28

Varja

I have actually

Seen a Sloom once when i started playing (Last June) and i had NO idea what it was.

Sun, 03/18/2012 - 12:19

#29

Amnimonus

you sure?

You sure it was a sloom and not soul jelly, if it inflicted sleep then it is.

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 17:17

#30

Bombmanben

These are all the rare or not

These are all the rare or not seen monsters i know.

rare monsters:
mewkat,
sloombargo,
sloom,
impostocube,
tortodrone,
love puppy,
black kat,
cattywampus,
vog cub,
(maybe vog cub alpha?),
soul jelly,
oiler baron,
jelly green giant,
gold puppy,
(ironwood sentinel?),
gold trojan,
king tinkinzar,
(and crimson order, except seerus),
king krogmo,
rock jelly.

Sun, 03/18/2012 - 14:44

#31

Toxicyoccm

Albino Wolver, Brute Jelly, Lovetrode

Albino wolver; A snow-white tier-two Wolver that drops the laurel trinkets. Replaces any Wolver, and can do single or triple bites.

Brute Jelly; Blue, tier-two jelly cube that acts like a rock jelly, in that it has higher attack and defenses than ordinary jelly. Explodes upon defeat and drops multiple materials. [or a brute jelly suit, who knows.]

Loverly Lovetrode; a retrode that has been struck with cupids thwack hammer; these smitten robots now fire a 'laser-of-love' that heals those caught in it's path. Their loving swings are a reminder that love hurts, however. Can drop enamorocks I guess.

Sun, 03/18/2012 - 15:08

#32

Severage

@Bombmanben:

Tortos, Black Kats, Cattywampus', vog cubs, oiler barons, jelly green giants, ALL gold enemies (Except Drone-family ones), Sloombargos, King Tinkinzar, and King Krogmo are all non-existant enemies. They were once in the game or were only in the preview version, and some have yet to be released to the game. As for the 3 never-seen golden shankles, I don't think they exist either.

Ironwood sentinels and rock jellies aren't really rare; Rock Jellies are regular monster spawns in Scarlet Fortress (And have a pretty high chance of spawning from 3-hit blocks), and Ironwood Sentinels are pretty common, not sure why you listed them.

~Sev

Sun, 03/18/2012 - 17:51

#33

Hijadestone

No it was not a battle pod it was in a distruction zone I can't find the image

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 19:04

#34

Magnicth

Not sure what a cattywampus

Not sure what a cattywampus is but....ive been thinking,and i think that any monster (elaborating on my previous post)should have a small chance to spawn as a lichen shaped as that monster.just thing about it.and maybe the bosses could have a small chance too!just think about it:snarby as a big jiggling black and red snarby shaped lichen!or maybe an extremely rare jelly cube/lichen that is rainbow colored!!!

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 19:50

#35

Twiddle

Hmm, maybe...

Golden yes man. Impossible to kill, turns into a cursed overtimer when a pit boss dies near him. The cursed overtimer has a chance of inflicting curse. If the cursed overtimer becomes a pit boss, he'll become a gold pit boss (devilite CEO) who is impossible to kill and will run around "promoting" everyone (including other pit bosses, golden pit bosses, overtimers, and yes men) to cursed overtimers. If he runs out of workers, he'll revert into a cursed devilite, who's attacks have a chance of inflicting curse.

Reward:

Cursed Overtimer - nothing
Cursed Devilite - Shadow steel

Also, instead of the nova cube, have nova lichens. Individually they'll act as a blast cube does when they die, but if you let the coalesce then you will have a really, really though opponent on your hands.

Sun, 03/25/2012 - 08:11

#36

Piosionus-Snarby

This is what i got

here's my idea of rare monsters that can be more challenging.

> white snarbolax cub
The size of a bull chromisk, like the t1 snarbolax but white, and have a extremely rare chance of appearing in a random location. It has every single attack of the snarbolax and the attacks can cause a random status. Once defeated, a fruminous fang token will spin around in the air and will then be broken down down in to two pieces, the two pieces of the token will disappear and a award will appear.
possible drops
white snarbolax cub cap costume
silver key and iron-lock box
50 crystal energy

> soother wing
A silk wing that can make knights fall asleep. the wing appears to be blue and is surrounded by a blue mist that will make any knight sleep when approaching it closely so it must be attacked with a gun or some sword charges. It can appear in any place of any silk wings.
possible drops
silk wing wings asscesory
5 gold coins

Sat, 03/24/2012 - 20:22

#37

Hijadestone

On the snarbolax cub

on that monster it would be 2-3 times the size of a alpha male with more power than snarby cause most people can solo snarby

Sat, 03/24/2012 - 23:04

#38

Severage

@Piosio--Poorly spelled Poisonous-Snarby:

The problem with a Snarbolax Cub is that in T3, the Cubs would actually be stronger than Snarbolaxes...

And that wouldn't make much sense.

~Sev

Sat, 03/24/2012 - 23:33

#39

Kentard

That and

The rewards are a little too good for something like that, don't you think?
Even Love Puppies used to drop heart pendants, and the chance of getting one is marginal (considering how infrequently they pop up).

No equips or CE; just some good mats or trinkets if you must, preferably. Or 3* equipment.

Sat, 03/24/2012 - 23:35

#40

Severage

@Kentard:

"used to"

I feel I must correct you on the tense of that sentence, ol' chap.

PS: Tortos used to drop 4* shields.

~Sev

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