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Wed, 03/21/2012 - 16:02
Horizonknight's picture
Horizonknight

I have yet a create general loadout, and I ask my fellow knights to help me decide on future equipments.
What I have currently have:
Sunset Stetson (UV Freeze low, Shock High)
Ash Tail Coat

Barbarous Thorn Blade (UV Charge time reduction low)
Avenger (UV Damage Vs Slimes Med)
Archeon

Mega Magnus
Blackhawk (UV Damage Vs Gremlin low)
Polaris

Great Owlite Shield
Barbarous Thorn Shield
Sinister Skelly Shield

I was thinking about having Vog-Nameless or Vog-Shadowsun (considering the future buff), but is there any other suggestion out there, besides these two?
Also, any weapon or shield additions for the future *cough autogun line*?

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 17:19
#1
Halandin's picture
Halandin
Well, many people get the

Well, many people get the Blitz Needle for Vanaduke and Trojans.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 18:10
#2
Athresh's picture
Athresh
Blitz needle for one.Also,I

Blitz needle for one.Also,I suggest you to get sets to protect you against each damage type(so u might want to get full vog and skolver!I assume you have nothing against wolver series,considering you have gone with the vog).
Keep in mind that gunner armors provide paltry defense.
Try bombs,maybe?Bombs are the most fun weapons the game has to offer IMO.
Coming to shields......IMO CoA is the best shadow shield out there.I know you have sinister skelly shield already,but consider getting CoA nonetheless.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 22:02
#3
Demonicsothe's picture
Demonicsothe
No need for a 2nd shadow

No need for a 2nd shadow shield, if he's already got one. The only discernible difference between the two is status.

Pisses me off when people call acheron, archeon.

Depending on your setup, you could go full wolver/gunner if your main weapon is one of them, and you only use the other weapon as a sidearm to take care of various threats.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 22:21
#4
Horizonknight's picture
Horizonknight
Hybrid

The set-up that I use is a "musketeer" style: I.E. Sword and Gun in accord.
To me, it really boils down to which hat will be more effective: one with shadow resistance and gun damage, or one with elemental resistance and gun speed.
(I also realize that full wolver/gunner loadout might be more effective. But I want to try out a hybrid load out before moving on)

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 22:45
#5
Demonicsothe's picture
Demonicsothe
Wolver and gunner lines have

Wolver and gunner lines have no difference within their own sets. Like, a skolver cap has the same bonus, defence, and resist as the coat.

Asi vs damage

Asi helps you to raise/lower and shield through your gun animation.

Damage gives you more damage vs everything. So, it could be a difference of a hit.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 23:55
#6
Athresh's picture
Athresh
@Demonicsothe - Yes,but i

@Demonicsothe - Yes,but i figured that his shadow shield is not 5* yet,so, it might not be too late to switch over to CoA(which IMO is better then skelly considering that fire and shock status are more troublesome than any other status effects). If not,you can as well go with the skelly shield.
@OP- If it's the gun ASI/damage bonus you are looking for then you can as well use trinklets.

Thu, 03/22/2012 - 07:16
#7
Demonicsothe's picture
Demonicsothe
Crest requires a chunk of

Crest requires a chunk of vana farming, then heating, then upgrading. And it is now one of the rarer recipes in existence. Skelly 5* is easier to obtain. CoA requires you to pay a large markup, or bid against the demands of other players.

10 vana runs. 120,000 cr. Or 70,000 cr. At least 40k would be going for the recipe alone. That leaves you with 80k, or 25k.

Since he doesn't have full 5*, it isn't likely he'll be farming all missions fsc.

Thu, 03/22/2012 - 09:50
#8
Random-Thing
Wow

@Demonicsothe You do have a habbit of giving bad advice, CoA is definitely a better target as a shadow shield. Shock and fire fiends are probably the most threatening things to veteran players and CoA is the ONLY shield in the game that can effectively protect against them.

"Because something is easier to obtain" is not a good reason to get it. Azure guardian is the easiest armour to obtain... is it therefore better? no. Taking the extra time to get a better armour set pays off big in the long run.

Also, 10 vana runs don't even take long, look for a decent guild and you'll learn fast, I've been in several that have done repeated runs carring new people to it through.

Thu, 03/22/2012 - 10:21
#9
Demonicsothe's picture
Demonicsothe
If I offer the good points of

If I offer the good points of nova over ap, do I consider ap to be terrible and not good to get?

If I offer reasons why ap is better than nova, does that mean nova is terribad?

I offer alternatives, not straight up one size fit all. I don't claim to give the best advice either.

Your cobalt analogy is incorrect, both pre and post missions. Wolver gear recipes were easily found on the auction house. Cobalt was found at kozma. Now, both can be found on the auction house. Cobalt is harder to obtain, since you either complete the missions for the reward, or for accss in hall. They aren't the buy from kozmas whenever you want now. So, the difference in ease to obtain is almost none.

Whereas, skelly vs coa has a larger difference. Hall recipe, or rather expensive auction house? The difference is huge, compared to cobalt vs wolver.

Thu, 03/22/2012 - 11:29
#10
Random-Thing
sorry

posted in wrong thread... my bad

Thu, 03/22/2012 - 13:42
#11
Athresh's picture
Athresh
@Demonicscothe- It's true

@Demonicscothe- It's true that skelly is easier to obtain than CoA.But,it isn't that the OP needs it for FSC itself,considering that he/she has grey owlite already.Why rush it and end up with an inferior shield when it's not exactly necessary?
I say,farm FSC and get the best shadow shield out there,instead of getting a poor substitute first(which would be rendered useless once you get CoA).I believe,in the long run,getting a 5* skelly shield now will prove costly.

Thu, 03/22/2012 - 13:45
#12
Demonicsothe's picture
Demonicsothe
I don't count skelly as

I don't count skelly as inferior. I count it as a different variation. Its got status resist that CoA doesn't have, and vice versa. Neither is it a poor substitute.

Like I said, I provide alternatives.

Thu, 03/22/2012 - 13:53
#13
Athresh's picture
Athresh
First things first.REALLY

First things first.REALLY quick response!
I believe it all boils down to what one prefers then.But,I consider getting two shadow shields to deal with different situations quite luxurious.I do get your point though.

Thu, 03/22/2012 - 16:53
#14
Horizonknight's picture
Horizonknight
Regarding Shadow Shields

It was really a spur of the moment buy, because I realized that I had no real defense for shadow type monsters, so I bought the Sinister Skelly Shield to help defend against those pesky devilites. After a while, I may consider getting the BC, but I will judge the performance of my Skelly first.

Also, I don't actually have a Great owlite shield (They don't exist in the first place), it's wise owlite shield. (So many mistakes D:)
And now that the new armors were out (perfect timing), what is the general consensus for Hybrid builds?

Thu, 03/22/2012 - 17:03
#15
Demonicsothe's picture
Demonicsothe
Hybrids players have always

Hybrids players have always been well performing. That is to say, not pure sword/gun/bomb. For example, 3 swords, one for each type. Then a gun such as polaris to deal with the enemies that swords have trouble closing. Or, ap/nova/elemental alchemer and sent/bio/umbra, with a flourish/btb sidearm to deal with greavers and devilites.

So in cases like that, 3 weapons of one type and one of another, a full set benefiting the the main weapon type would be best.

Thu, 03/22/2012 - 17:12
#16
Horizonknight's picture
Horizonknight
Derp

Poor communication skills...I meant, what armor combinations are good for a hybrid build.
And by Hybrid build, I mean "self-imposed challenge of using only two weapons-a sword and a gun."

Thu, 03/22/2012 - 17:15
#17
Demonicsothe's picture
Demonicsothe
So, it depends on what kind

So, it depends on what kind of bonus you want. One piece of wolver, and one piece of gunner is perfectly fine. Do you want asi or damage on your swords. And same question for your gun.

Thu, 03/22/2012 - 17:30
#18
Horizonknight's picture
Horizonknight
After much debate

I have finally decided.
It's going to be Shadowsun-Vog
Because a) I believe damage is more important for guns, and speed more important for swords
b) 4 status resistances (counting UV's)
c) Shadow-elemental resistance, which is nice.

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