Spiral Knights - A "well" rounded Vog set

A "well" rounded Vog set

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Sat, 03/24/2012 - 20:05

Spiral-Depot

I have fiend and shock problem- especially in T3. My current set is a plain Vog, so no shock there (unintentional pun).
I'd love to keep the asi bonus without the use of trinkets, and I have all the swords that deal the damage type the various monsters are weak to,
plus additional uv damage bonus VH.
I have aquiried, since beind frustrated with Fiends and Shock, a Blackened Crest and Skelly shield, both with uv Shadow HIGH.

So, would it be a waste to use uv Shadow MAX wolver cap and Coat to make a Vog set for this added Shadow protection?

Or should I split it Cap Shadow MAX....Coat Shock MAX ?

Also, any justifiable difference between High and MAX?

From the reading I've done, uv Shadow MAX on a set that does not have that inherent defense adds to about 40% protection.

Piercing I have no problems with. Stun I walk off :D. Any advice will be apprecieated.

Sat, 03/24/2012 - 20:25

Sillty

If you're a swordie, I think

If you're a swordie, I think ASI is the best defense against fiends, since it helps you shield or dodge before they can hit you. So getting shadow UVs on Vog is fine, but I'd avoid using something other than Vog armor/helm unless you have ASI trinkets. I mean, I'd even rather use non-UV Vog than Skelly Armor, for instance.

Sat, 03/24/2012 - 20:27

Demonicsothe

Upgrade your blackened crest

Upgrade your blackened crest to crest of almire. More shadow, and a goodly amount of shock resistance.

I would go for the set with shock resist, since shadow damage is easier to dodge and less threatening than shock.

Sat, 03/24/2012 - 21:02

Bopp

this may not be helpful

If you haven't already, read the wiki page "Abilities" and similar pages to learn how High/Max stack, and what effects they have on damage and status.

I don't fully understand why you insist on Vog Cub. Yes, ASI is nice for offense and aids defense by interrupting attacks. Vog Cub with shadow protection would be nice for FSC/SFSC, and Vog Cub with shock protection would be nice for IMF/SIMF.

Are you saying that you have a shadow sword with VH damage against slimes and gremlins, a piercing sword with VH damage against beasts and fiends, and an elemental sword with VH damage against constructs and undead? If not, then you could use some damage bonus, right? Damage bonus from armor/trinkets is great, because it amounts to multiple UVs on swords.

Why are you avoiding trinkets? If you're shopping for Max! UVs, then you obviously have the resources to obtain offensive trinkets and maintain trinket slots. Or do you already use trinkets, and not want to give them up? What are they?

Get shadow armor (Skelly, Snarbolax, Fallen, Valkyrie, etc.) to use against fiends. Two pieces will give you 5 times as much protection as a Max! shadow UV on Vog. I don't know many shock armors off the top of my head, but Divine Veil gives you both shadow and shock, and a fiend bonus.

Edit: Edited heavily.

Sun, 03/25/2012 - 01:47

Metagenic

Hmm

As I've said before:

Vog Cub Set + Barbarous Thorn Shield + Elite Slash Module, Elite Sword Focus Module = Sword CTR very high, DMG very high, ASI very high.

You get good defense (for FSC, the most popular "endgame" stratum) and you have all your sword stats nearly maxed out.

Sun, 03/25/2012 - 03:27

Tsubasa-No-Me

Trololol

Screw them all, get a Callahan.

{trollface}

~Tsu

Sun, 03/25/2012 - 06:07

Bopp

fiends and shock

Metagenic usually gives good advice, but in this case he seems to have missed the point, that we're trying to defend against fiends and shock here.

Sun, 03/25/2012 - 06:29

Metagenic

fiends and shock?

In that case there simply isn't good defense-based swordsman armor. Skolver has freeze and piercing and Vog Cub has elemental and fire. Snarbolax with its shadow defense would be your best bet, but you'd be wasting those DMG very high UVs you paid for (not to mention that it's Shadow Lair exclusive, and you have to run Ultimate Gloaming Wildwoods twice to get the whole set).

I say go craft your Vog Cub Set with the shadow and shock UVs. Given that there's no swordsman armor tailored for fiends and shock, that's your only option.

Sun, 03/25/2012 - 10:02

Demonicsothe

@Tsu

I use callahan so much for fiend floors its not funny.

Sun, 03/25/2012 - 10:24

Spiral-Depot

Thank you ALL for the

Thank you ALL for the responses.

I'm the type whose penny smart....dollar stupid :D.

@Bopp, Yep. Got all those swords that have dmg bonus VH that each type are weak to.

I'm gonna invest in trinket slots to use with a specialized kit for Shadow. Roughly the cost of 200ce a month to maintain is'nt that bad.
So I'm forgoing on the Shadow MAX each piece Vog set, and mabye focus more on complimenting the "kits" inherent strengths- though the idea of Vog Shock HIGH appeals to me.

Again, thank you all again for the responses :).

p.s. will look into the Callahan :)

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 06:30

#10

Nordlead

2xShadow Max UVs is less than

2xShadow Max UVs is less than a single piece of shadow armor and will cost significantly more than 1xshadow armor + 1xASI trinket. As Bopp pointed out, you can get shock + shadow on a single piece of armor with Divine.

I have Crown of the Fallen + Snarbolax coat and each devilite does ~3 bars of damage to me. Well worth the minor loss in speed since shield canceling makes up for the loss of ASI and I don't full combo devilites.

get shadow armor and 2x ASI trinkets. Problem solved.

Wed, 03/28/2012 - 21:53

#11

Herosandwich

here, this is well rounded :D

lol i've done this, except used two pieces with the same uv, but different innates. namely a vog cap and snarby coat, with pierce max on both, the results:

http://i41.tinypic.com/262uoux.png

NOTE: this was taken with both pieces at heat level 1.

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A "well" rounded Vog set