Spiral Knights - Fix the economy.

Fix the economy.

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Sun, 03/25/2012 - 15:34

Oroseira

I don't like this game's economy.

6k-8k for CE? This is ridiculous. The reason beggars exist is because they can't pay that much. Deep down, this economy needs a huge fix. I know that you all are possibly gonna vote down this idea, because you all are beggars on the inside.

THIS IS THE ECONOMY RIGHT NOW:
6000 to 8000 crowns=100 CE

THIS IS WHAT I WANT THE ECONOMY TO BE:
1000 Crowns=100 CE

If it's that way, the beggar amount will be sharply removed. And everyone will be very happy. So this means:
Vana runs: 900 CE total.
Jelly runs: 600?
Snarby runs: 200?
Roarmulus runs: 500?

Let's see what you have to say about this. If you are reading this right now Mysteryzx, LEAVE THIS PAGE RIGHT NOW. AND I MEAN IT!

Sun, 03/25/2012 - 15:39

Demonicsothe

Fail troll is fail

Can't even be subtle about it.

That is all.

Sun, 03/25/2012 - 15:45

Trollingyou

Even if this happened, we'd still have beggars

People beg not because they can't make the crowns, they do it because they don't want to do the work to get it or they want immediate gratification. I do agree the prices are quite high but it's a player driven economy and they make the CE prices that high. If you want them to come down buy CE from OOO and sell it cheaper. Then watch as those selling CE buy it from you and inflate the price back up.

Sun, 03/25/2012 - 15:59

Soulstaker

You crazy?

Are you crazy? Don't you learn(or learned) about economy in school? The crowns you earn in clockworks is always the same but not the value of crowns. 1k for each 100 ce would cause an inflation in the economy. It would be impossible to buy items because their prices would increase as crowns' value decrease. If you want 1k for 100 ce for a few days I can live with that and the prices will start to go back to normal. But 1k for 100ce forever will make SK's economy like East Germany's economy (ok, maybe not that bad) after copying so much German marks.Yes, I agree ce is is a bit expensive but don't lower the price too low. IMO 5k to 6k would be a OK price.

Sun, 03/25/2012 - 15:58

Soulstaker

Double post.

Double post

Sun, 03/25/2012 - 19:58

Schattentag

You've got it all wrong.

It should actually be 1cr = 1ce. That way it's all fair and everyone's happy!

Or even better there could just be no energy. That way everyone can play this game for free, just like it says! It's not like the devs are supported by the people that pay real money for ce, right?

What do you guys think? Let's put this game an its developers out of business! Yeah!!!

BTW I looooove this game I want to play it forever without paying so pls devs read this and fix the economy. Yeah!!!

Sun, 03/25/2012 - 20:57

Hijadestone

I think soulstaker is right

When I first got on the game ce prices were 5545cr I remember debating wether to but ce or an auto gun little did I know that I could have gotten a full set of armor for the price of that auto gun but I was a noob so I still regret that decision but back to the point ce prices dident slowly rise the bolted up in 1 day the prices when I first got on went up 500cr in a month another 200 cr stayed that way for a month then went down 200 cr then jumped 1200cr then I here'd that in 2 months the price jumped 4000cr it got fixed but ce is way over priced end of story

This is the longest post I have ever posted

Sun, 03/25/2012 - 23:09

Severage

*BAM*

*BAM* *BAM* *BAM* *BAM*

What was that? Oh, nothing. Just the sound of me beating my head on the desk.

~Sev

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 01:00

Evning

@soul

you could try Zimbabwe or more recently, the Greek economy.

/just trying to help.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 05:59

Kentard

Zimbabwe still works for us.

oh come on gaiz is an excent suggescion.
nt liek anthying can go wong rite i mean, srsly nt liek equpmet preces in action haus will incress by ten tims riet?

and whooebar mysteryzx is he mast be sum neord who knuus only basik econonomic prinplices. nt liek that's important to, idk, maek sure le inflartion is under contorl and that 2 star wolver only coss liek 1K cr instead of 100K?

+111111111111111111111~

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 07:08

#10

Asukalan

WHY WE EVEN HAVE TO PAY

WHY WE EVEN HAVE TO PAY ANYTHING FOR CE???

ALL STUFF SHOULD BE FREE

PEOPLE WOULD GET EVERYTHING THEY WANT AND NOONE WOULD NEED TO SELL OR BUY ANYTHING ANYMORE

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 08:00

#11

Aplauses

LOL.

Are you mad? 1000 crown for 100 ce? 1cr= 1ce? Get CE for free? Those idea are not fixing but make this problem even more worse.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 08:32

#12

Hexzyle

@Aplauses. http://i2.kym-cdn.

@Aplauses.

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/241/572/6b4.jpg

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 09:32

#13

Mysteryzx

Let's see.....what DO I have to say about this.....

First off, go tell everyone you see outside that everything on the planet should cost a dollar(or one of whatever your currency is), see what they have to say about it.

Second: If you have problems with people, deal with it in game, don't drag it across the forums, no point in it really.

Third: my actions are reflections of people around me, if you want me to sound better, then act better :P

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 09:38

#14

Soral

hey

congrats on your suggestion thread

its too bad its not a good one in any regard

keep trying though, beav

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:34

#15

Rinzi

Hmm~

I'd like to see Crystal Energy pries in the Prize Wheel. I always though that may help things out a bit. Like 1ce, 5ce or 10ce prizes. I agree the economy's a bit overpriced, and it seems like my only solution is to actually purchase CE from OOOs. I don't really mind it too much, really. Even if I just buy $5 every two weeks, I'm set. Just my two cents.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:47

#16

Damienfoxy

How about we fix the players?

How about we fix the players? *gets bechemels giant scissors*

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 09:21

#17

Kentard

@Mysteryzx:

I wholeheartedly agree. Is there even a merit to this thread, really?

First off, go tell everyone you see outside that everything on the planet should cost a dollar(or one of whatever your currency is), see what they have to say about it.
Judging from the rationality of the OP, I'm not too sure arguing over basic economic principles is going to work.

Second: If you have problems with people, deal with it in game, don't drag it across the forums, no point in it really.
I thought this point was well established in the first place. Apparently I was wrong.

Third: my actions are reflections of people around me, if you want me to sound better, then act better :P
As an extension to this point, if you want us to treat you seriously, Phantomhamachi, think your posts through.
While I'm not inclined to pass off definitive judgements on Mysteryzx as of yet, I can safely say one thing: of the two, you sound more irrational.

TL;DR: More matter with less art.
Nobody needs to hear your irrelevant emotional rhetoric, nevermind the fact that you condescend to all reply posters, GO CAPS BECAUSE ITS COOL AND BECAUSE YOU ARE SMART, and that you are dismissing a poster who, at the moment, sounds infinitesimally more logical and composed (and by extension more intellectual and legitimate) than you.

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 09:28

#18

Frostyhawk

the only thing that would

the only thing that would make sense is 100ce being around 5k like it used to be but i'll take the 6k it is at now over the 10k it has been not so far back ago

btw, nice trolling bro

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 17:21

#19

Jarrend

Economy in School

This Phantomhamachi fella mentioned that he was 11 years old in another forum post, so I am not certain if he has been taught basic economic principles in his classes.

Speaking of which, I thought the minimum age required to play Spiral Knights was 13; I guess it is time to report.

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 18:02

#20

Sheepsofthelegion

/facepalm

I hav lost all hope in noobs.

Keep tryin, kid.

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 19:22

#21

Purplewarlord

...

1 cr for 1 CE? Are you crazy?!
1k cr for 100 CE- still crazy

I remember back in the day when CE prices were 3k per 100. *sigh* The good ol' days. I wish people weren't so greedy. Then everyone would be happy. :D

CE prices should be (in a perfect world): 3k-5k per 100 CE

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Tue, 03/27/2012 - 21:24

#22

Luguiru

-2.46

Lowering the solid/CE prices would bend over the economy and take it around town for a few nights. Rather than cater to beggars there should be a blacklisting function which completely prevents listed players from any interaction with the user, preventing you from joining a party with them or allowing them to join a party with you in it. This would cause a web of blocking, but this whole concept is a personal bias against beggars. Either work for wealth or wait for your tank/ME to regenerate. Surrendering to what beggars want is never a viable option as it demotes profit for the company, as begging does not contribute to anyone else nor stimulate welfare other than giving the teenage/prepubescent/preteen/other their bottle and a flick on the head.

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 23:39

#23

Tjaktjak

maby a better idea?

i think it would be better if there is an alternative way of earning energy, instead of krogmo coins you can get CE from lockdown, relative to the amount of damage you did or something. Because when you are low level the energy price isnt really an issue. Only at higher levels (800ce for a 5*) the price gets real nasty. So if there are alternative ways to get energy, i think it will make the price of energy go down, and a lot of happy players.

Wed, 03/28/2012 - 06:17

#24

Janessey

Bottom line is:

This is a F2P game, Is it not?

Then why is more like a P2P game instead?

Let's face it, OOO has put limitations in place so the you have to spend real money to get past that limitation, Although OOO has soo many Nay-Sayers on the subject. In the end OOO could at one point fix the economy, but in no way , they would ever want you to profit from it.

Hikaru-san ( female)

Wed, 03/28/2012 - 12:03

#25

Severage

@Hikaru:

You just had to keep this thread alive...

I'm F2P, and I can get everything a P2Per can get, with the exception of the OCH. The only thing I would like done to make this game more F2P-friendly is to have the OCH purchasable via CE.

But thanks to the ever-so-prevalent QQ threads, DR was nerfed by a good margin, and the hammer is decent, but not amazing. More of a fun item. So I'm not missing out on a whole lot, although I'd like to have a mask of seerus without paying 5K CE.

~Sev (Male, since for some reason we need to specify this.)

Wed, 03/28/2012 - 13:13

#26

Oroseira

Okay, I just had a pre-surgery gift of 20k CE.

And now you want it gone. Way to go, trolls, you must hate people who get pre-surgery gifts.

Wed, 03/28/2012 - 13:18

#27

Softhead

...Wut?

I don't get it.

Wed, 03/28/2012 - 13:18

#28

Softhead

...Wut?

I don't get it.

Wed, 03/28/2012 - 13:19

#29

Serell

Trolls?... They are stating

Trolls?... They are stating why you're idea is bad....
And none us knew you were getting some, "pre-surgery", gift so.... how can you say we hate people who get pre-surgery gifts?

Wed, 03/28/2012 - 17:32

#30

Severage

LOL@Phantomhamachi

That is the most dogmatic assertion I've ever seen.

Way to go logic.

~Sev

Wed, 03/28/2012 - 19:49

#31

Shue-Donnym

fdsfgghsf

Okay, I just had a pre-surgery gift of 20k CE. And now you want it gone. Way to go, trolls, you must hate people who get pre-surgery gifts.
No, you want it gone, because implementing your suggestion = basically destroying any and all value your CE held.
You're inevitably going to sell some for a quick buck someday so why shrink that quick buck?

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 21:24

#32

Linktheninja

your ignorance is admirable

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 21:47

#33

Fehzor

....he said as he necrobumped the 3 month old thread.

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 00:07

#34

Purrifier

does anyone counted how much

does anyone counted how much ce rage threads opened?

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Fix the economy.