Spiral Knights - Please make Expansion Mission can be afford by Energy.

Please make Expansion Mission can be afford by Energy.

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Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:38

#6251

Cyankitsune

Ten cents? lol

"Although the price to buy is $0.10"

Ha ha, try like $5.95, buddy. Still, it's pretty cheap, and I wouldn't be in Three Rings interest to change the price into CE form and essentially change it from cheap DLC to free DLC. If you and/or your parents can't afford to pay for OPTIONAL CONTENT, then that's your problem, not theirs.

Either wait until you're old enough to get your own credit card, or figure something out with your parents. Making the game even more free is not going to happen anytime soon, and if anything would cause the in-game economy to downturn even more. Besides, people currently are trading energy for the DLC via Steam's trading system (which you could say is a pseudo black market), albeit for much higher and appropriate prices.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:43

#6252

Asukalan

Avaliable for trade via steam

Avaliable for trade via steam =/= buyable with CE

Also Operation Crimson Hammer Expansion Mission Pack is NOT DLC.

Also making Expansion Missions buyable with CE wont make it free Expansion Missions. You know, for that CE that every player have in game SOMEONE had to pay real money sometime.

Making a Expansion Missions a CE sink, by making it buyable for CE ONLY from vendor would make players spent CE and thanks to that it would increase CE demand so more people would be more eager to buy CE with real money. OOO still profits.

Operation Crimson Hammer Expansion pack could work similar to shadow key (since OCH is basicaly a SL but with gremlins). It could work in same way, you buy item via CE (that will be untradeable and activated upon purchase) similar to key and poof you unlock OCH Expansion Missions.

But why OOO decided to make it buyable only with real $$$ .... and TRADEABLE via steam? Mystery.

(some say they are working on making Expansion Mission Pack tradeable via official client..... rumors? something to keep players from rioting? who knows...)

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:09

#6253

Rinzi

wat

A optional extension of a game that you purchase and download separately from the rest of the game which permanently expands its playability. For its intents and purposes, yes, it's DLC. For the rewards, I find the DLC price to be reasonable...of course, I bought it when it was on sale for $3 USD. Rocket Hammer and Perfect Seerus are really nice items, given they're used in the proper situation. The mask matches the Almirian Crusader armor pretty well, too. Though I wish it supported back accessories...

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:41

#6254

Juances

"Only few people want to pay "real" money on the game"

I do agree that the system isnt very friendly, but generally speaking, no one works for free...

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:41

#6255

Treizeknight

The whole point is to reward

The whole point is to reward players who will actually put down money for content in the game rather than just working within the system to be self-sufficent. You have to realize Three Rings has to keep this game profitable if they want to keep it running.

Making Expansions Buyable in game is a horrible idea it punishes those who have already bought the pack, but also it would be the expansions at the mercy of economic forces rather than keeping it as far outside the system as possible.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:51

#6256

Asukalan

Rinzi, you dont download it

Rinzi, you dont download it anywhere. You just pay for it and game allows you to access it. All files and data needed to play it are already in your PC waiting just for database server for a response that will make you able to access it.

Why everyone started calling it DLC? I dont know, maybe becouse some steamddicts saw its avaliable to trade via steam and without thinking they named it DLC (or maybe steam system cant name buyable things other than DLCs?) and everyone started to call it that way without thinking.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 15:24

#6257

Schattentag

@Asuka

You're completely right. Whether or not you've purchased the expansion, you've all downloaded the content already, as have I. The expansion simply makes it so the servers can tell your computer to use that content in whatever structure the expansion requires.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 15:28

#6258

Severage

@Asukalan:

"Avaliable for trade via steam =/= buyable with CE"

Never thought I'd say this, but, well said.

~Sev

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 20:12

#6259

Hijadestone

you know

1600 ce is the same cost as the mission so 2000-3000 ce would do for it

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 20:19

#6260

Derpules

@Asukalan

"[Y]ou dont download it anywhere. You just pay for it and game allows you to access it. All files and data needed to play it are already in your PC waiting just for database server for a response that will make you able to access it."

This is true of much purported DLC these days. Day one DLC for retail games (where the DL is a 1KB key) is commonplace now.

It may once have been meaningful to distinguish between content based on whether it is literally downloaded or not, but there is little point now. DLC = expansion content that you don't buy in physical form. "Expansion content" would be a more accurate name, but I don't see it catching on any time soon.

Wed, 03/28/2012 - 18:05

#6261

Rinzi

Ooooooookay.

http://i.imgur.com/AvCQA.png

Whatever, it's not DLC. Maybe I'm mistaken, or maybe Steam is run by a buncha morons. :/

Wed, 03/28/2012 - 18:36

#6262

Dukeplatypus

That's just the way Steam

That's just the way Steam categorizes things their products. If it is optional, purchasable content (or permission to use said content) that expands the base game, regardless of whether or not it actually alters the game's base files, then it is listed as Downloadable Content. Its simpler that way and for all intents and purposes it is identical.

Sun, 04/15/2012 - 17:49

#6263

Yo-No

Steam sometimes has the worst price for stuff

plus some parent r scared for buying online what if they lose all their money =\

Mon, 04/16/2012 - 15:56

#6264

Niklaren

And for those who have already paid...

I think it is dumb to make it ONLY available using real money. I have already spent money on Spiral (yeah. I like OOO products). Now they come out with another thing to spend money for, but there isn't anything like " come pay 1600 CE for this mission Woot" or whatever to make the content avail to free only players.

Come on OOO. You know that the free and doubloon oceans work for a reason. It is because the people who can afford the dubs buy them and EVERY doub in the game (like CE) is bought with real money. So what is the problem having it worth $5.95 CE or more? You would get MORE money if you set the CE to more than the dollar amount and less people would be angry about it.

Think about it OOO. You would get more, not less by opening the content to all users.

Mon, 04/16/2012 - 16:32

#6265

Luguiru

Hi ho Silver

The expansion is meant to be exclusively premium. CE is obtainable from other players who use real money in exchange for your crowns, obtained through non premium play in the Clockworks. Crowns may be obtained by anyone. The expansion is meant for those who pay real money for it. It all comes down to forcing those who want the pack to pay or hope someone on Steam gifts it to them.

Have some math.

Mon, 04/16/2012 - 19:34

#6266