No, hell no, frick no, god no, nope.avi, no way, never, not in your life, not in my life, no way in rotting putrid hell, sweet furry jesus no.

So, all in all, NO

Because they trade a status effect for damage, and status affected enemies are more easily manipulated.

Not only that, But its a Fearless Rigadoon! >:3

I do Support this, Especially the first fix. It is indeed the best option. It will let the Flamberg catch up in terms of Damage, and you will be able to keep a single target constantly stunned with a Rigadoon.

Although I think that the first swing should be changed to a Stab, I mean, actually swinging a rapier like that would either break it, or it would just bend and stuff. Or you could be Zorro. That works too.

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The flamberge fire rate is low, and the damage isn't high enough. In pve, enemies die too fast for fire to tick more than twice. And in pvp, fire does maybe 6 bars, over a really long time. Not worth the proc at current rate of proccing.

It's been a long time since I've actually seen fire spread to another monster. Actually, I've never.

You mean, charge, release, and gtfo? Obviously regular hits are too much of a getting down and drty to deal with enemies. But I digress.

The charge can inflict fire to multiple enemies, simply because of their aoe properties. But then again, if I want fire I use my ash, so the transfer really doesn't matter.

On topic, assuming fire transfers, it still isn't optimal. Enemies have to be close, and that usually doesn't happen beyond 2-3 sticking close without positioning from the knight. And in those cases, fire doesn't always transfer. If it does, you'll have to wait out the fire ticks to achieve max damage potential. And if you wait, you aren't attacking it. So the flamberge fire either needs more damage per tick, or higher chance of proc so you can deal the fire hit over and over, utilizing the hit-upon-proc.

In which case, you have no fire. Unless you're telling me combuster has a fire proc on normal hits.

Shock deals elemental damage, so 42 is about right on elemental weak enemies. Fire seems to be normal damage, although a guildy has noted it deals less on zombies.

How about we buff that which honestly isn't clone-grade gear first to compete with them?

I'll agree the instant a status is involved many swords bite the dust... but when that status procs in PvP it's an annoying thing for those of us trying to be good without cloning. Now, while I am saying I loathe clones (I openly admit it about once a day, and have a wolver costume specifically tailored for my Blast Network derp runs) I have seen these toothpicks in action, and do agree that the status toothpicks have a horrible proc rate compared to damage loss. And if you're unlucky... indeed the status proc is horrid against you.

So, while I hate to say this, +1 to the concept. However, this +1 is only on the condition that other weapons are brought up a bit too. (You know, remove one of the double nerfs on DR (speed or damage, not both), make a claymore that feels like a claymore (sudaruska and triglav if you didn't know)... etc.)

Nontheless it's a +1.

I own a flameberg and two other toothpicks, and I've tested all of them myself personally.

The fire rate on the flameberg is higher than the stun rate on the rigadoon. This is good. However, these rates are both not high enough to make a difference.

As it stands, these 5* weapons do LESS damage than the 4 star of the pure damage line, yet the status rate on the Rigadoon is about 4-5% and the fire rate on the flameberg is only about 7-9%.

If these rates were simply doubled, to be on par with status rates on biohazard and magnus, they could be much more useful. Increasing to 25% is waaaay too much, and I think you should really think about that for a second. 15% chance is plenty for the fire, and 10% is plenty for the stun, there is no need for more.

I got a Flamberge, I thought it would me good because of the fire.

Not only is the Fire chance INCREDIBLY low, roughly 1/12 for me, but the damage is HORRIBLE, about equivalent if not less then the Flourish 2 Star!

These NEED a buff, the damage is VERY unreliable for a 3 Star.

Not just the statuses, we are also talking about the DAMAGE of these things, the chance of fire in a charge is about 1/2, but it's roughly 5 hits, but it still needs better chances.
A Grand Flourish has MORE damage than the Furious Flamberge, even though its a 4 star!
In all my playing time, about 8 months, I saw ALMOST 3 FLAMBERGES.

Its obvious the Flamberge and Rigadoon NEED a buff, theres no denying it.

May be brought back from the dead with necromancy, but I'm with this. Furious flamberge user here, they really do need a huge buff. Sure, they may have statuses, but that doesn't justify giving them such little damage output. I say increase the damage output to be on par with BTB and final flourish, and maybe make the status a tad better chance on normal swings and better on the charge.

~Magnicth

I only seen one. wait....2. the other one (5*) was on Auction House for 80,000crowns.

I know some people who use these for fun in LD, they're bad for damage but sometimes worth it for the stun chance. Not enough to make it worth buying, sadly.

What I meant to say is how many I saw IN USE.

And according to the wiki, a Grand Flourish has higher damage than the Furious Flamberge at stratum 2 starting at the HIGHEST possible non-UV hit.