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Flourish & Roses

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Mon, 04/02/2012 - 10:23

Melodramatic

Hey all. I tried searching for these without results, so if there are any repeats please forgive me.

My suggestion is for the expansion of the flourish lines to include the other status ailments ice, poison, sleep, & shock. Now, I'm sure that there some will say we already have a few too many currently. It seems that the barbarous thron blade and final flourish being the most popular. And if I remember correctly, this is due to the weaker damage and fair to slight chance of inflicting status ailments of the flamberge and rigadoon. Personally being a fan of the flourishes, enough to obtain all four types to five star since they came out with the original Rose Regalia promotion, I find them all useful. If not to just match outfits. A stunned trojan is always satisfying to give back a little to those brats. Of course i would suggest an increase of the chance of inflicting status ailments across the board of all types to a more mid range chance of occuring. Just enough to maybe even out their affectiveness. This doesn't address the argument of redundancy. I must be honest and say I don't have one other than providing the SK community with more choices of weapons of an existing mechanic that should not break the bank as it were.

Also I would think these swords along with a new Rose Reaglia promotion might be hit. Prismatic, shadow, divine & volcanic Rose sets would cause just as much a stir in the economy as the recent wing accessory sets. Truthfully, I was so focused on searching for other flourishes that I did not think to see if these had been suggested previously, I would be surprised if they hadn't.

Thanx for looking.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 10:57

Diamondshreddie

Yes +1

i personally do not currently own any of the flourishes, but im looking to make a rigadoon soon. ive heard that he status almost never applies, and that its best to just get a final flourish.

i personally like to see weapons with alternate lines, having an actual decision factor added.

and im sure something like shadow, volcanic, divine, and prismatic rose sets would sell like mad!

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 11:28

Juances

Freeze with a florusih will simply not work. It's a sword that flavors speed, you'll proably end up throwing another swing right after you froze the monster, neagting it (unless you have robotic reflexes).

Based on that argument, thats why a plain florusih wil always win, you take advantage of the speed to kill fast, with the highest damage possible. Statuses have a duration, if you want to take advanatge of a status, you have to wait for it to have full effect, else you're wasting it and losing damage.
Trojans are the only enemies with high enough life to let this happenand make it worthwhile, like you said with the stun, but the rest of the fiends/beast....not so much.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 14:17

Melodramatic

tier 3

True, in the lower tiers the baddies won't last long. Only in tier 3 do you get to see them shine, sometimes on devilites you have to hit/shield/hit a couple of times depending on the type and if you could poison, or freeze, or sleep, or shock them little brats between hits. I just love giving back a little of their own, lol. With the wolvers you might not see much, I notice in tier 3 with them it doesn't matter which flourish you bring as they are too easy now.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 16:48

Tsubasa-No-Me

Sleep? No.

Why? Because it is removed as of now...

BUT... let me point some things out...

Freeze: this would only be good if it inflicted on the very last swing, because it does not work well with Repeated hits.
Shock is second worst, because each time they are shocked, knockback is canceled. It MIGHT be good, or over powered, due to constant shock.
Poison would be quite amazing, especially as a team weapon.

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~Tsu

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 16:53

Severage

o.o

Erm...

I still say people should consider LD first.

If you had an electrifying flourish, talk about murder in LD if it had any good chance whatsoever to shock.

Or poison. A poison flourish? You'd make the enemy knight do half damage, as well as take more damage from everything for a period of time.

Given that flourish is already powerful, I think these statuses are a wee bit too powerful with LD considered. The current status-flourishes are Stun and Fire. Out of those, stun is more useful in LD (Vog cubs block fire, which you're more likely to see over Jelly-wearers), but stun lasts for a short amount of time.

I can see shock being balanced(ish) if it had a fairly low rate of happening, because people have so many shock UVs already for VTs. But Snarbolax isn't very common, and poisoning someone basically spells doom for them.

~Sev

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:25

Melodramatic

shock and sleep

Well, the uv option for sleep has been turned off and not many armors defend against it (royal jelly set), but the sleep vials have not been removed, you still have the option to sleep a monster. Plus I don't believe that the option to inflict status should be any higher than medium at the extreme. I can see your concerns for lockdown. I don't play it very often because the people in there could beat me in proto gear while I'm wearing skolver, lol. The idea is to add additional options along the same vein, so as not to unbalance the current game mechanics.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:54

Iron-Volvametal

...

*COUGH*

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 19:04

Severage

@Iron:

You disappoint me, I was looking forward to that being a meme.

~Sev

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 19:30

Iron-Volvametal

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Mon, 04/02/2012 - 20:29

#10

Severage

@Iron:

Awh.

A meme just for me. <3

~Sev

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