Barbarous thorn blade charge attack can also be spammed on vana with no misses in the 5th stage, like DA.

Woops, read that as vana 3rd. My apologies. I'm curious though, how does a troika line hit from beyond the range of the outer ring? If the normal attack can, I'm willing to assume the sealed line can too. And thus, by extension, so can the toothpicks, as one of their many complaints is the range that equals a heavy sword line.

Btb projectiles are treated somewhat differently than other projectiles. Back when mecha knights shielded friendly shots, they will react to da/gf charges. But not btb. Whether it is a lack of range, or some other mechanic, they were not considered projectiles. But regardless of their state, they do penetrate the fireballs, whilst da charges will explode when in contact.

It does? That's the little light pulse at the end, right? I thought it was fixed, or at least on triglavs.

I own neither the triggy or the suda, not even the humble troika :3

I wouldn't know.

Sowwy >.>

But its new stuff :P

Ok, forreals now. Tell me about the new charge so I don't make a fool of myself. Again.

If both hits can hit past, does that mean that the initial strike hits both above and in front of your knight? o.O
Oh, and yeah, BTB charge can hit with all of the initial swipe and spikes on 5th stage vana, i tried it on my last fsc run. I'll have to try the normal first hits for btb and da sometime though, not sure about that.

wait.. so then its possible to do a deathless vana sword solo? it was all a lie?

I can hit him just fine with Voltedge's charged slash in phase 5 with no watering, it's just really tricky because you have to step between the first ring of fire and be almost touching the inner layer of fire for the slash to hit... the explosions almost always hit but they don't do very good damage compare to the slash.