Currently i have a strong loadout against normal and peircing damage and i'm trying to make it more even for moreversetiloty.
Current load out:
Brute jelly helm
Chroma suit
Swiftstrike sheild
Weapons used:
Vile striker
Avenger (have recepie for divine avenger)
Nightblade (have recepie for silent night blade)
Twisted snarble bard
I am planning on getting virlesk suit and the dragon scale sheild so i should get a skelly helm for balence any suggestions on other load outs?
some defense can increase your offence capabilities by keeping you alive long enough enough to deal it. I do get the point of the dusker set but the low attack damage increase isn't worth it so much. With uv you can get better increases. I prefer a more rounded play than a glass cannon load out. Though i will keep your advice in mind when i work on other loadouts this is just a versetility loadout for soloing.
Irontech Destroyer beats everything.
Being serious now, defensive armors are often seen as underpowered because:
-Swordies like damage for interrupting and attack speed for dodging
-Gunners like damage for interrupting and attack speed for dodging
-Bombers LOVE THEM SOME CHARGE TIME REDUCTION, and damage is good too
...so people generally gravitate to whatever armor helps them with that, be it a specific armor or some out-of-this-world Chaos set that works through some highly unorthodox method. It's a real shame, because Rock Jelly Helm + Salamander Suit looks really freakin' awesome in my humble opinion.
Lol try deadly virtulesl suit, rock jelly helm and military visors, now that looks awesome! I see what you mean and i think having a good sword damage and speed is nice, but sometimes one needs to be prepared so i'll try to follow your suggestions but i found i take damage alot so some health/protection is greatly appreciated.
Thanks for your advice and i'll keep it in mind for my second loadout.
Like Juance said. Offense actually helps you more than saving you from being killed by that one last hit. If you are taking damage, you need to shield or dodge more. Might not be scary in T1, but T3, you can ill-afford to take multiple trojan hits before killing it. You will never, ever, out tank a whole floor of enemies, even if you begin it with 3 pills, remedies, and full health.
Kill the jelly, and it really can't hurt you.
Yeah i know about offense dodging and shielding, i played some rank 9-2 missions with a friend and have survived through most of them. But sometimes there is no room to dodge and my sheild breaks. I am focusing on increasing my weapons but armor needs work too. I just don't want to die when i am in an arena and 20 enemies spawn.
A) ditch the chroma and jelly lines. the reason why people go wolver is because with skolver you have a medium bonus on both pieces instead of a low. add that to barbarous thorn shield and you have max sword damage bonus versus ALL creature types, not just the slime bonus you get from chroma.
B) do not get the dragon scale shield. do not use any part of that line. very, very few creatures hit without a component of normal damage and that shield line has no normal defense at all.
C) do not try and have a "balanced" load out. it's a proven fact they just don't function as well as specialized load outs. If you're running beast/slime levels, wear piercing defense. Fiend/undead go with shadow defense. Gremlin/construct elemental defense. make whole sets dedicated to specific defenses.
Yes, that takes time and money. So grind JK over and over to fund the rest of your load outs, or do something. But it's worth it to make specialized sets.
Learn wave management in arenas. In each room, there are 2 waves of enemies. Killing all enemies of one such group spawns the next in line. So you can kill all enemies but one, then leave that one alive as u decimate the other waves.
Shields are indeed very important. I highly recommend one shield for each damage type, it helps you more than your suggested general purpose loadout.
And since you seem to be crafting a general purpose loadut, with defences in every area, might I suggest a Divine Veil with a skolver coat. Gives you defence against everything, and resistance against fire, shock, and freeze. The precursors of divine is magic, which is elemental until divine. Precursor of skolver is wolver, which is piercing all the way through.
The bonus of such a set is that is the sword medium damage bonus and fiend damage bonus. As much as you might think damage bonuses are too low, consider this. Those damage bonuses are all on pieces of gear with comparable defence to the jelly and chroma pieces you utilize. The extra defence saves you maybe half a bar every couple of hits. Nothing substantial. On the other hand, a damage bonus allows you to kill the enemy in less hits than you would normally take.
Even if you don't want damage bonus, attack speed is very nice. Makes your sword or gun attack faster by shortening the wait time between hits. This also allows you to shield faster, adding to your total survivability.
Your weapons look good. Stop upgrading the Striker; now that you have piercing, elemental, and shadow swords, you don't need a normal sword.
Your armor looks poor, as the other responders here have said. That Dragon Scale Shield is downright bad. The rest of your armor is too heavy on piercing defense, at the expense of normal and shadow. Replacing the helmet with Skelly is a fine idea. But even then, the offensive bonuses on your armor are not good. In particular, the Virulisk Suit protects against elemental damage, but offers an offensive bonus against slimes, which do piercing damage. It doesn't make sense; it's not great against slimes, and it's not great against anything else. As much as I hate to see everyone wearing Wolver armor, it really is good for swords, which is the only weapon type you're using.
I disagree with Randomzz about general-purpose armor sets. While it's nice to get multiple specialized sets eventually, that can take a while, so I usually advise people to get a decent general-purpose armor to use until then. They can spend their time collecting various weapons, which are really fun because they alter the game play, instead of collecting various armors, which add very little to fun.
Virulisk resists pierce. Salamander resists elemental.
Thanks, Trying. Bad Bopp!
Deadly Virulisk is then worse than Wolver-line armor, but not totally dumb.
I stand by my other points, until they too are discredited. ;)
I never said it wouldn't take a while to build specialized sets. In fact, I specifically said it would. The point being her desire to "take less damage from hits" when her shield breaks. And you take a lot more damage from a half and half set than a set dedicated towards that damage type.
Now if you want, get other armors too. I would recommend in that case to get some "costume" armor, just to liven things up and take a break. But for serious runs, build specialized armor.
But unless you are specifically building wolver/gunner gear while in rjp and then moving on to fsc with nameless/shadosun/vog, a general purpose set does indeed help more in other aspects of the game.
Thanks i think i got enough info. The divine helm with barbarous thorn sheild and skoalver coat seem to give damage bonuses against all types, while having protection from all-most types of damage. I currently am workung on the nightblade and avenger amd will start working on the new loadout your data has given me. Not gonna toss my armor yet but will be using it more as costume armor.
Thanks, hard to believe i've only been playing for 2-3 weeks when there is so much more to learn.
Defense is overrated. If you like using swords, get a wolver set.
yes everyone uses it and you'll find clones everywhere, but thats becaue it's good.