I don't know where you guys stand on this. But i think this is a bad idea. Specificially for someone like me who has made lots of costumes with jelly helms.
Any one with me?
Perhaps all jelly helms heretofore with eyes and the old one stay as they are.
any ways, wanted to voice my opinion.
All the trolls are gonna come out of the woodwork and be happy that it possibly messes up rommil's costumes.
At least Juances got us started with one well-thought out point that actually stays on topics. Good point Juances.
@Pawn insulting trolls on forums is clearly against ToS (Trolls of service)
Uh..... I didnt notice next patch notes:
-Eyes on the various jelly helms now animate and recolor according to the knight's personal color like other helms.
I'm not sure If I'll like them to stand out that much.
I'm sorry if the eyes will now conflict with costume choices you have made, but it is a necessary change to not only bring them up to date with the rest of the recoloring, animated eyes, but also to allow them to engage with an upcoming feature to player faces.
Ooooh, I like the sound of that.
But does this mean other helmets like the Steam Knight Mask will be given eyes also?
Also I think it would be nice if you allow people to retrieve their accessories from any gear that has changed substantially in appearance since they added it.
Oh my god... could this be the long awaited... DIFFERENT EYE SHAPES?
I AM SO EXCITED SQUEE.
No Batabii, if a helm doesn't have eyes, it won't be affected.
also to allow them to engage with an upcoming feature to player faces.
If this means what I think it means then THANK YOU BASED NICK! I've been waiting for this since the NPC update!
Fair enough I suppose (although I do not understand why jelly helms couldn't be treated as any other helm that lacks eyes)
I suuuuuuuure hope this feature is a look of surprise and delight @ all the new content that has been added =o
And not just more endless cosmetics.
I agree with you Rommil. My Ice Queen Helm costume is going to look pretty stupid with red eyes :/
"I'm sorry if the eyes will now conflict with costume choices you have made, but it is a necessary change to not only bring them up to date with the rest of the recoloring, animated eyes, but also to allow them to engage with an upcoming feature to player faces."
"Oh my god... could this be the long awaited... DIFFERENT EYE SHAPES?
I AM SO EXCITED SQUEE."
Oh you know that they're WAY ahead of any updates we're thinking they are working on. I bet Shadow Lairs patch were already made after Spiral Knight launched lol.
By just watching some of the forum avatars, you have to give @Kitty some credit.
Fallconn stop spamming.
And if eyeless masks won't be affected, why did they add eyes to other jelly masks?
What are you talking about? I didn't type anything in the subject, it just puts that there automatically. And it's not spamming unless you post the same thing every time, or post stuff that's totally irrelevant to the topic.
screw this eye changes. now my ice queen crown has no (visible) eyes. i have dark blue color as standard and they are linke invisible!
fix now!!!!!
thats when im glad i got a quicksilver helm instead...
It does appear as though certain combinations are producing undesirable results. We are looking in to a solution to this problem.
i wonder what it might be....
actually, no i dont. thats why im still here.
Pity my bombhead mask hides my eyes, but still can't wait!
Well I dont have a jely helm, but I can see why this could cause some rage.
I have to agree though, you should allow players to take off any accessories from their jelly helms if they had them on before the update, just to satisfy those who didnt see this coming. I guess it may look strange... but I cant see any long term game-breaking-everyone-dies-ragequit affects because of this.
Idk. I'll chack out the update after Piano practice etc. before taking sides, if at all.
:P
(ps sorry for grammar,just making a quick post.)
Just want to point out due to the somewhat translucent nature of the jelly helm, the eyes glitch out above accessories that are supposed to cover the eyes. For example they somehow standout above my helm mounted displays. If someone has on a game face they eyes are bizarrely half above their eyebrows.
Obviously i was not a fan of the eyes in the 1st place, but to make matters worse they just behave strangely around accessories altogether.
What's wrong with the update exactly? Pics por favor.
"I'm sorry if the eyes will now conflict with costume choices you have made, but it is a necessary change to not only bring them up to date with the rest of the recoloring, animated eyes, but also to allow them to engage with an upcoming feature to player faces."
I have never actually been bothered by the original jelly eyes and I don't see why I ever would have wanted them to be like other helms? Though I may just be reading what you said wrong.
Anyway, is this "upcoming feature to player faces" something that we would desire for looks? If so, I am fairly certain that people with jelly costumes now look quite silly, "feature to player faces" or not. Due to the personal colors that we do have and such, jelly helms kind of just look silly now in my opinion costume or no costume.
There are plenty of helms that would not benefit from any new eye feature, and it would be no big deal at all if jelly was not included as well.
But these are my opinions and I bet some people really like this change...
I understand that this change is vital for a future update, but I must say I really don't like it.
Yellow eyes on a Rock Jelly Helm makes me look like I have flashlights shining out of my head.
The contrast between the two colours makes my eyes stand out way too much.
It hasn't nothing to do with accessories, it just looks bad...
such an easy solution :)
and again, i see no harm in treating jelly helms as no eyed helms (like quicksilver).
Kinda boils right back to "when you fix what isn't broken you break what was fixed." I see no reason to fix something this arbitrary that no one was requesting? I mean, we got the entire community requesting sum redesigns on gunner 5* gear, and its ignored. I've never seen anyone say a thing about jelly helms, they come in and change it and you have two categories:
#1 apathetic. Didn't care before, don't care now.
#2 disappointed. The change messed up what they had and already loved.
People might be thinking that oh only Rommil cares because of his costumes, but no, many of us don't like the change. Just to clarify that... somehow I had a premonition of someone commenting something based on that.
Rommil's look on the gunner gear example is great. And things like this have occurred in other areas too, to our dismay.
Jelly helms need to have prismatic eyes because it is important and necessary for some eye animation update (which it is not. plenty of helms have no prismatic eyes whatsoever, and this is where I can actually get upset IRL over a jelly helm in a video game).
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Many dislike how the jelly helms look now, eye animation change or not.
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Our time could have been spent somewhere much more useful, even if we are to be talking about specifically graphics here: Gunslinger hats.
Something similar happened to weapons. One star weapons get some better charge attack, even though some new players skip one star items let alone skip using charge attacks for the ones that do have one star items ---> Nobody really cares about this change, it hasn't really affected anyone --> Our time could have been spent doing something about the ton of weapons that are unbalanced. Now this one specifically can't really be brought up much anymore because we did in fact get weapons balanced and such, but it is still something to look at while considering the current unbalanced weapons.
Rawr, just use this little icon for your arrows: ↓
:3 thank you I think it looks better
Just wanted to give a sincere thanks to everyone who has popped in to support this thread. I'm hoping that if enough people post here, we can get an option like xplad suggested (+1 to you). I personally always really like the dynamic (idea) of the jelly helms eyes being hidden behind the jelly. It made it singularly unique in the armor and costume arsenal. It was the defining characteristic of the helm for many of us. Please support this thread.
Thanks so much guys, for taking it seriously and discussing it.
We developed a solution that will retain the animated eyes while having them colored as before. We'll have the best of both worlds in this case.
And people will still say OOO never listens to the players'/customers' suggestions or complaints. That makes me sad.
Thank you Nick, for all the work you (the OOO staff) put into this game.
thanks so much. i love to see u guys realize mistakes and fix them. And a good compromise is surely in order.
we love to see you hear our worries. it makes the game more SMILEY FACE. :)
i appreciate that you hear both wanted and unwanted suggestions and consider them quickly. You deserve the slow clap.
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But nick some colors would look nicer on some jelly helms than the pale white/pink/blue/whatever we have!
Just put checkbox for prismatic/pale eyes!
CHEEEECKBOXXXX
again for xplad. unless its a programming nightmare, then stick with old style + style change as option.
but if we are going to advance personal options under a personal menu, this would be sweet as 1 of may personal options.
Thanks to OOO for taking the thoughts of the public into account one again!
Hopefully everyone is happy.
Sounds good to me. Glad this one got caught before implementation.
Can you at least make an accessory that lets me get back those beautiful prismatic eyes T^T
Is it my imagination or this Falcon guy only post irrelevant stuff?
I don't personally care about the Jelly eye thing, but it is always nice to see rapid response to community feelings. I am very happy to hear that the AH glitch may be fixed now.
Garlicveggie has a point. If jelly helms could equip the Primatic Glow Eye accessory, then the people that did like the eye color could be happy too (well if they can afford it).
Game face needs the eyes to not look weird.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/814/spiral20111221135540.png/
But i bet you have an awesome set to prove me worng.