I love when suggestions get shot down by all the rude and disrespectful players, if it doesn't benefit them they just talk about how dumb I am. -Sigh...-
Mostly suggestions dealing with Lockdown....
I love when suggestions get shot down by all the rude and disrespectful players, if it doesn't benefit them they just talk about how dumb I am. -Sigh...-
Mostly suggestions dealing with Lockdown....
Most people (myself included) are just tired of the same things being suggested over and over.
The extremely active forumgoers are pretty scummy.
It's even better when you have an fairly original suggestion (hopefully) that goes quite well, but about 5 people read and post it.
Then pet threads and the other unoriginal suggestions get all the attention, usually saying "lolno" "y u necro" "This thread said it first" etc
usually, if multiple people are suggesting the same idea, it suggests that it might be something a certain part of the community would actually enjoy seeing implemented. that said, the idea may also be "game breaking" in certain regards, or perhaps it just lacks finesse, but if thats the case, the idea could easily be tweaked, or perhaps someone who cares could actually explain how the idea doesn't fit the narrative or is not balanced in it's own regards, etc, to put the thread to rest without stunting actual progressive ideas that could enhance the game experience.
in the act that multiple threads, as Metrulizer stated, are started based on explaining the same idea, it would be best for a someone to link the proper, pre-existing post concerning that same idea, if they do not wish to repeat themselves.
I for one, enjoy hearing new ideas, though I will say some of them are without merit, many of them have logic and reason behind them, and I will agree with the OP, OOO is always looking for new ideas and feed back, they aren't stupid. they don't need self proclaimed experts on game design to tell other members of the community that their ideas are dumb and flawed, as if they are attempting to shut out all future idea threads with fear mongering.
if OOO sees something that looks desired by the community, it's there job as game designers to MAKE IT WORK, not tear it down and tell their consumers "hey, we want good ideas, not a load of verbal vomit on how cool it would be if we added a new boss/weapon!" as much of the community on here seems to enjoy doing. now if an idea is SO BAD, that it needs to be stopped at the source, then explain why it doesn't work for the games interest in the OP thread, rather then making them upset by just saying "no" as a single word answer in your post. single word posts like "no" are totally useless in an idea discussion thread, and make you come off as a close minded fool that can't contribute towards any progressive idea.
If you don't have time to explain why you don't agree, then don't post anything, or link a topic that explains a similar idea, and let OOO decide how to handle ideas like that. if it's really bad, they'll just look away. no harm done.
If bad ideas were left unnatendend, the dumb guy will keep bumping it over and over and complain no one hears him.
Let's shoot it down early so he realizes his mistake :p
@Theozai
"I for one, enjoy hearing new ideas"
I agree with you - new ideas are those things I enjoy very much. BUT, that said, PETS, TWO-HANDED WEAPONS or DUAL WIELDING are not new ideas - they are present in almost all MMORPG clones on the market. Actually I don't think that PETS, TWO-HANDED WEAPONS or DUAL WIELDING are bad ideas, and I'm sure that with a bit of effort and adjustments they may be implemented to SK with no big harm for game balance or story. But what for? To make SK less original? Do we really want all MMORPG to provide exactly the same gaming experience? I value diversity and that's why I'm rather sceptical to any ideas like "game X, Y and Z all have it, we want it in SK".
Actually i was thinking about being able to throw half charged bombs that do half the damage and have half the blast radius like the gremlins.
And when i mean throw i mean that it can be chucked a certain distance.
I don't think that idea would work really. Unless you mean a half-charge will toss your bomb, you'd need to come up with another way to access that ability, and in any case, haze bombs would be overshadowed by vials (not counting repetitive use), and blast-types would be easily outclassed by the Pulsar line.
It's open for discussion, I just think it would be slightly improbable.
Don't take my opinion too heavily, I'm not a bomber, so leave it to a bomber to discuss it properly. There will be some bomb-related stuff I am not aware of.
As for the rest of the thread, Ideas are 'shot down', because the posters:
-Don't bother using the search bar to look up a thread that has been in existence for millennia.
-Adding to that, post an idea we just finished shooting down.
-Ask for something completely stupid with little/no punctuation/grammar/spelling so they sound like 7 year olds i.e. I wan 2 driv a truck in th cw an run stuff ovr i tink thtd b totaly awsom i mean wuldnt u want 2 driv ova stuf in a hug truk lik that?
-They insist their idea is a good one, despite it having being discussed civilly already and had it explained to them WHY their idea would not work/is not wanted, leaving us raging over their inability to just accept the facts. (One dude even tried to claim credit for his idea being the basis for the Wing accessories and claimed to have been recognized by OOO for his efforts.)
-They act all snobbish and rude, like the guy who told us he could care less about what we say because he was quote: "Bored out of his FRIKKIN MIND" when he wrote the idea. (he sent me a friend request after I told him I'd ignore him completely.) One guy tried to copyright his idea and said OOO was not allowed to use his idea without his prior consent, then later said that OOO would have to give him some sort of payment for using his intellectual property if they did, then told us he didn't care what we said because he only values OOO opinion. The idea wasn't a particularly bad one, but only one person responded to him seriously after that, outlining why the idea was bad and he still didn't care.
Well, i bomb a lot to the point where thats all i use, but thinking about if its half a chagre it can be spammed quite easily so maybe a full charge is still required but it will only do so much. My problem lies within playing LD as a bomber is so difficult because the Wolver armors are so versitile against it, and if there are no bombers to counter it they can pretty much run the whole game alone. I just got out of a match and i really dont like the fact that though guns on a recon are better the striker can do it even better by fireing shots and dodging around. Plus when you bring the polaris into the bunch it really makes it unfair for anybody because its pretty much spam. And being able to auto aim causes it to be even more of a problem when every hit will be accurate (depending on the guns they use) so i was thinking about being able to toss bombs for some protection.
- Even though the recent patch made charge attacks easier, bombers still struggle to get past anyone. Mostly strikers with guns because not only that they cant dodge it but if they even try to get close they end up pulling out there sword. And getting close pretty much requires you to stop your charges and bob 'n weave. Maybe if they made guns harder to use on striker so that using the sword and knowing how to maneuver is necessary to knowing how to play it.
like i understand the charges and damage are different but striker is strong even without the sword. I just wish they Limited it so that the sword is a better weapon of choice...
-But then again this is from a bombers point of view since bombs aren't as popular in LD ever since the first nerf.
But anyway back to the whole bomb toss, i would think limiting it to only blast bombs would make it a little better. Such as Nitronome, big bad, irontech, and etc. And it would also require a full charge to be tossed but in tossing it you lose some of its radius (big bad wont be effected since it already contains a small radius) as well as some of its damage.
I made an estimate on where the bomb would land comparing to the range on the polaris.
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-This isn't suppose to be a suggestion until i have a better idea of how it should work. I would like to at least evaluate it so that it can be discussed without it being to overpowered.
I'm sorry that if using the scout as a reference as to why I think that ASI Maximum shouldn't be had isn't nice or something... I think it was that thread/me. But really, I was just trying to explain that if it was to happen, it shouldn't be made a medium bonus at all, I'd be fine with lows on the trinkets. But meds on each trinket? That'd be a bit game breaking IMO.
But really, people are allowed to disagree. Nor should you take it too seriously, there are things you might not have thought about, and after all, the dev's views are the only ones that matter 95% of the time.
On another note- I'd agree with your newer point, actually. Bombers are a bit lacking in PVP at the moment, and I'd love to see something like this, as long as the fuse time was long, and the charge time was medium (Like Nitronome's charge time with BAB's fuse). Oh, and the damage/radius needs to suck.... but have it throw a cluster of them, with a widish spread. +1
Nope wrong thread dude lol
-Also about the cluster of them, i would like that for the deconstructor since that would make more sense to its purpose of clearing objects.
It's not about what benefits them, it's about what's good for the game in its entirety.
It's not rude and disrespectful, it's tired from explaining why ideas won't work and angry from idiots with thick skulls.
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