Spiral Knights - Difference between atk speed? BTB vs FF

Difference between atk speed? BTB vs FF

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Thu, 04/26/2012 - 09:54

Aaron-The-Mighty

I thought I'd bring this to the attention of forumers because I don't test anything.

Basically I think I've been scammed out of 5k ce because the person who bought my BTB *cough* Entropize *cough* claimed that it was slower than FF when it came to atk speed (I was promised another 5k ce if he could not prove this to me).

He pretty much ignores my PMs when I try to contact him so something tells me I've been played. Now I don't actually have any hopes of getting that 5k ce I was promised but I was wondering if there was any truth to what he said and whether somebody had irrefutable proof of this.

I will not be taking comments from any of his guildies (aka Apathy) unless they are providing proof.

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 09:59

Rangerwillx

They're exactly the same in attack speed. And damage.

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 10:12

Bopp

same

As Rangerwillx said, they have identical regular attacks, including the speed. The Lancer Knightz sword speed data confirm this, at least for complete combos.

Edit: Removed sanctimonious postscript. Also, name-shaming is not allowed in the forums, so you should probably remove your mention of the offender.

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 10:16

Aaron-The-Mighty

Unfortunately I do have quite

Unfortunately I do have quite a bad tendency to trust others even when they could very well be alts. Tbh I wasn't planning on bringing it up but I recently bought a VH asi FF so I was almost hoping there was a difference now @_@

Plus u gotta bring baddies to light u know? :D

Anyway getting back to the topic at hand, the chart seems rather incomplete, is anyone going to actually argue FOR the difference?

EDIT: Ah icic, I probably should but baddies need to be exposed so I shall keep it there until forced to remove it, anywayy~ ^^^^

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 10:32

Bopp

chart will be completed

The chart will be completed, I'm sure. The FF and BTB combo numbers match at ASI: None. As someone who has studied these numbers in detail (and contributed a few of them, to help out), I would be very surprised if FF and BTB failed to match at higher ASI.

For what it's worth, I have only ever seen one person argue that FF and BTB have different regular attacks. And that one person was me, and I retracted my argument (I had been using bad data).

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 12:13

Neodasus

I've never used a btb, but I

I've never used a btb, but I assume that have the same range as well, and the FF was nearly the same as a Gran Faust.

Fri, 04/27/2012 - 01:56

Stompt

Kinda irrelevant but....

But the difference in range between a DA and a GF i think is different. DA has slightly more range, i can feel this in lockdown. I have a asi vh DA for sale since im quitting this game for 30k CE but if u prove me wrong and there the same it will be sale for a limited time 20k CE! Dont miss out on this offer! (even though im right lol)

Fri, 04/27/2012 - 05:46

Halandin

Quite irrelevant--it's in the

Quite irrelevant--it's in the wrong forum. This is not the place for advertising stuff for sale. :P

Fri, 04/27/2012 - 16:32

Rangerwillx

Also, Final Flourish and Divine Avenger have exactly the same swing length.
They have the same range whether you know it or not..:3

Sun, 04/29/2012 - 03:17

Thrillhaus

Stompt I'll take you up on

Stompt I'll take you up on that offer.

Mon, 04/30/2012 - 10:04

#10

Bopp

and just to beat the horse dead

Lancer Knightz has just added some more FF speed data. Sure enough, they match the BTB data. Cheers.

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