New Arenas.

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Bacon-Strip's picture
Bacon-Strip

If you haven't played them yet, please don't, save yourself the trouble.

I just ran a Rise or Fall, and I have to say, this is one of the most horrible things I have ever seen in my life.
Not only did it the payout get reduced by around 1000 crowns, the arena is boring as hell.
NOT ONLY is the arena more boring than basket weaving, the "beautiful new lighting, areas, etc" LOOKS HORRIBLE.
Seriously, it's like the arena is not even fully built. Everything is hanging off of frames.
Furthermore, you have to fight enemies in between the arena stages, that by the way have absolutely no enemies in the ugly, hollow shell, impossible to bomb or gun in area, those monsters don't even drop anything. NOTHING.

But, even after I thought it was all over, the boxes. They give you 3 boxes to open. Whoo hoo.
Second round, 3 boxes again. What.
Final level, grand finale! 6 boxes. Give me a break. Also, no red boxes to be found anywhere.

This is possibly one of the worst level re-hauls I have ever experienced. I'm am never inclined to do an arena ever again.

Nice try OOO, try shooting another arrow, this one completely missed.

-Bacon

UPDATE: I just ran the other mission arena, Vicious and Viscous, and to my dismay, was exactly the same results as the T2.
Infact, I made LESS crowns running the T3 than the T2. Go figure.

Today just keeps getting worse, and worse.

Lukehandkooler's picture
Lukehandkooler
Sadface.jpegT3 arena is my

Sadface.jpeg

T3 arena is my favorite part of this game.

~Luke

Aumir's picture
Aumir
o_ou

Is this for real? I might as well check now that I can and confirm...

Alynn's picture
Alynn
I think this is only for

I think this is only for mission arenas

ima check the arcade ones for myself later

Flaame's picture
Flaame
With all due respect, if it's

With all due respect, if it's one thing that shouldn't have been changed, it's this.

Arenas actually had a challenging endeavor prior before the update, now they're just a joke. Not to mention the Risk vs Reward for Previous arenas were more rewarding than they are now.

Additionally, I had two mecha knights by my side that didn't die. In the previous arenas, these things would die by the end of the second round. Easier to stay alive and not a challenge by any means. Simply put, I am appalled by the update.

Bacon-Strip's picture
Bacon-Strip
If there is any update on if

If there is any update on if the clockworks arenas have changed as well, please let us know.

Leafblader's picture
Leafblader
also

the arenas are now WAY to easy.
A guy in 3* gear can easily solo the arena in rise or fall now.

Aumir's picture
Aumir
Yeah, confirmed, Rise and

Yeah, confirmed, Rise and Fall got a horrible makeover. A "warzone"? Really? And so few enemies... ._.

I am waiting for an elevator in tier 3, to see how they are now... the real way. Will edit later.

Spireo's picture
Spireo
I can confirm that Arcade

I can confirm that Arcade arenas are untouched, and it is only Mission arenas that are affected.

Jaroche's picture
Jaroche
Infact, I made LESS crowns

Infact, I made LESS crowns running the T3 than the T2. Go figure.

Level payout depends on stratum... anything before basil pays way less than after. So an arena at D17 would drop double crowns than one at D19.

Coatl's picture
Coatl
Coatl breaks down in tears.

Coatl breaks down in tears.

Leafblader's picture
Leafblader
same with Spark and Roar

We need to check the gate arenas.

Xamtheking
I don't really care

Who honestly gives a snipe?
It might be easy, and if it is easy,
GO BREAK THE WORLD RECORD(for doing said arena)
Do it blindfolded
Do it upside down
Do it while making out with a hot girl

Spireo's picture
Spireo
@Leafblader I just completed

@Leafblader

I just completed a D7 Venom Fang Arena, and it was a normal arena. I believe the new arenas are only available in missions.

Aumir's picture
Aumir
Ok

Just did the first floor Arena in tier 3 that has beast strata (flamelash arena, 3rd gate, tier 3). It was a normal arena with a payout of 839 crowns, so it is safe to say that, right now, the "new arenas" aren't in the Arcade.

Still, tomorrow someone should check the arenas in the new gates generated, just in case it is a "not generated yet" problem.

I really, really hope these new "arenas" don't go to the Arcade, it would make it even deader. If that is a word.

Ginungagap's picture
Ginungagap
It seems to me

That OOO is trying to get people to go back to the arcade with his patch. Having the more lucrative arenas and runs in the arcade (Sovereign Slime versus RJP etc) will make people maybe not just spam the missions as much, and bring more people back to the arcade. I'm looking forward to just doing some T3 arena runs in the coming days, I haven't done that in forever, and this patch has kind of motivated me to do so. While it seems like hte payout for the arena missions has taken a big hit, I don't think that newer players are going to necessarily be bothered by that. They'll see the missions as one time deals, and then go back to the arcade, aside from maybe KoA. But only time will tell.

Lunaice's picture
Lunaice
HEY!

I agree with Ginungagap with this..

This will probably make this game less grindy and more explorish...?
Since there will be less payout, less buying of CE? And the CE might lower, probably I'm wrong..
I might check the arcade if theres more people but, meh.

Kive's picture
Kive
the arrow didnt Miss

it went into youre knee

Thimol's picture
Thimol
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the "beautiful new lighting, areas, etc" LOOKS HORRIBLE.

The only thing I would have to vehemently disagree with.

Rangerwillx's picture
Rangerwillx
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So much for Arenas being difficult.

Pauling's picture
Pauling
Some bad, some good

I was fairly disappointed in the payout and challenge levels of the new arenas... but there are some elements that I really did like. Hopefully all arenas will become some combination of the old and new eventually, and I doubt this is the last arena change we'll see.

First, the new art is nice, and lends a different sort of ambience... it's nice to occasionally see our fellow knights of the spiral order and remember that we're part of something larger.

More importantly, though, the new layout requires a lot less wasted time running through empty areas. I liked the surprise of turrets on the way to the second arena room, and while I think that the overall difficulty was disappointing, I *did* appreciate the addition of renewable terrain (and barbed wire!) to strategic points around the room. Arenas have always been a bit too much about running around the center (...or edges, for those pesky spikes in room 3) with occasional pauses for hacking and slashing, but adding terrain could change the fight and add some variety.

Psychodestroyer's picture
Psychodestroyer
...

I'd support the nerfing of payouts on missions to encourage Arcade use.

All I'm seeing are people using the missions as shortcuts now.

Not that I think badly of them, it's just that now the Arcade is pretty much only for Basil runs now, and even less so because of the HoH.

So I hope the nerf isn't on the arcade too :)

Milkman's picture
Milkman
..

Hahahaha Bacon, what a joke..

1) I like the new mission arenas, a lot. Everyone was complaining about how missions were just rehashed clockworks. Well now its less so. Don't like these arenas? Go play the old arenas in the arcade. More variety is definitely not a negative.

2) Can't gun or bomb? I just completed Spark and Roar solo with a Hail Driver and Biohazard, so... you're wrong.

3) Sure the payouts got nerfed. So what? Since when was anybody running these levels for profit? Last I checked it was FSC or RJP (which only had a minor nerf in payout anyway and so is still farmable). And why do you even care about profit? You're stinking rich, why not start playing for fun rather than crown payouts?

3.5) I found 2 red boxes. As in all arenas (and other clockworks I guess), a red box has a chance of replacing green ones.

Valorai's picture
Valorai
I haven't been in an arena

I haven't been in an arena since the patch.

Asukalan's picture
Asukalan
Please, tell me more how when

Please, tell me more how when OOO said "balance to crown and heat output" meant something more that "we will nerf everything suckers, go grind more for your pathetic crowns and come back with your credit cards".

Aumir's picture
Aumir
Concrete Jungle?

Weeeeell, maybe they buffed those Concrete Jungle levels...

Let me dream D:

Hijadestone's picture
Hijadestone
I did rise and fall yesterday

and you couldn't get paid less befor the patch it was barely over 1000 cr