Easily doddged

Just pay attention to them.
If you pay attention to bullets and swords, you can pay attention to flying shards.

well sometimes toothpicks get the most damage, or guns get the most damage, or gf gets the most damage...

why not rss once in a while?

So no, to answer your original question, I do not believe they have been given too much power...

I guess wait for others' opinions. But your objective is to see others' thoughts, not convince us otherwise.

I say this a lot, but people really need to stop underestimating the RSS.

It shoots eight shards, each of which travels as far as a Blitz Needle's charge attack. Upon hitting, each shard explodes and does AoE damage. And it's pretty darn fast to charge (1225ms at CTR Max). And it has a super-small fuse time.

Honestly, I'm convinced it's one of the best weapons in the game; the fact that a skilled bomber managed to top the damage chart with it honestly doesn't surprise me, especially post-patch.

If it was 5 star no one would complain. It's how DBR should preform ...

If you're gonna call the RSS overpowered, might as well call the Final Flourish and Gran Faust overpowered too. In LD, RSS is one of the bomber's few offence weapons, so of course it has to be decent.

RSS isn't OP.... I still die to swordies most of the time when I use it.

Would you rush to a person in the middle of a Voltaic Tempest? If your answer is "Yes," then you either have shock UVs or do not know how to handle bombers.

In general, each class is better against another: Bombers>Swordies>Gunners>Bombers. If someone is bombing, do not get into their muthahuggin' Blast radius, (Which for RSS is right up on them and 8 different directions.) instead, pull out a gun and shoot them. If someone is shooting at you, do not start bombing, dash up beside them and take them out with a sword. If someone has a sword and is slaughtering all in their way, plant a bomb and keep them the Vanaduck away from you.

You can be great if you can use one type of weapon but you can be legendary if you can use them all.

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/me runs around, spamming RSS whilst laughing manically.

"It shoots eight shards, each of which travels as far as a Blitz Needle's charge attack."

Uuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhmmmmmmmmmm........

Tennis has a solution!

Use a gun. ^^

How is the RSS overpowered? It's a bomb that technically has the smallest area of detonation, and only attacks in eight directions otherwise. A little limited, in my opinion, but it's more than made up for by its short detonation time and long range. It's not overpowered, just different.

And Snarbo Set wearers that can't dodge.

Okay, No.
Just No.

-Sarcasm Mode Activate!-
Oh no, a bomber SOMETIMES getting the most damage in a round? (Oooooh, "It doesn't happen every time but much too often." Daaaaaaaang.)
Blasphemy!
Clearly, it is overpowered, and MUST be nerfed.
-Sarcasm Mode Powering Down-

Okay, a bomb can outdamage a sword.
What of it?
A gun can outdamage a sword.
A sword can outdamage a bomb.
There is no SUPAH AWESOMESAUCE BESTIEST weapon type that should always come out on top.
Just because a bomber can avoid getting killed by a Toothpicker/GFer/Hammerer long enough to get some damage in does not mean in any way that such a weapon is OP.

I love my Sun Shards and I love trolling T2 LD with it.
If you come anywhere near my baby I will shove it -censored- and maybe -censored- with some -censoredcensoredcensored-

TL;DR NONONONONONONONONONONONONO

RSS has a predictable detonation pattern of 8 shards in a compass rose shape. With some practice, you can position yourself to approach from angles where you get in between the paths of the shards, and reposition to a safe zone if you aren't able to strike them before planting another bomb. What would be interesting to see is a bomber alternating between RSS and nitronome to keep strikers at bay. Unfortunately I don't have any bombs so I can't test this out myself, but it's an idea. If this turns out to be wildly effective against my fellow strikers, remember, you didn't hear it from me.

lol, Tennis had a simple and effective solution.

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You know why RSS bombers get such high damage?

It's because they use autoaim.

If we ban autoaim from LD, then everything will be better. Bombers will die to clones, and clones will die to skilled players, etc.

You know the RSS isn't affected at all by aim direction, rendering auto-aim ALREADY turned off, right?

Honestly, everyone who moans about auto-aim should just become a bomber. It doesn't even matter to us.

Finally got around to playing a few rounds of Lockdown since the buff. My old record with shards was around 7k damage; on the first round I broke 10k, the second 11k with 4 defends. I can definitely see how people think it's a bit much for a four star weapon, but I don't want to see it nerfed unless an upgrade becomes available.

Alchemers and Magnus are also tricky. Trollaris makes me laugh, just step back and you'll live.

I always get aggressive with people who try to spam Polaris at me. Get in their face, bully them and make a fight. Just wish the unexpanded shots couldn't shock :x

Look, I've been pushing this kind of thing for a while. In LD, the Clockworks, between Damage types, and weapons.

Oh, What? Bombers cant have something They can spam? Swords have flourishes, and Gunners have antiguas... So why shouldn't they?.

How about this: Nerf the RSS, DA, FF, GF, and all those other POWER sets and lets see a Dragon go eat a bomber with a DVS, a Grey Owlite waltz through Haze bombs and shrug off Gunshots, and the Almighty God of Tanking, the Ancient Plate armor sit smack dab in the middle of the friggan battlefield and throw every sword that crosses it against a wall far away; not interrupting his suda, and simply eating all of the damage.

Lets make the ENTIRE GAME fair. Lets have DEFENSIVE sets be DEFENSIVE, not Sub-Par 'Cause they don't have the damage boosts.

Do this, and you can have actual OPTIONS, not, gunner, swordy, or bomber. Yeash!

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Also pertaining to the thread, I Recently tried my level 5 ISB in t3 lockdown, with 3&4* plate armor on, and no trinkets. I found that you can chain the ISB off its self, while still staying kinda out of reach of the skolvers. And once they're shocked, Oh man, do they hunt me down.

Too powerful? Nonsense. It needs a 5* version that is even more powerful. I encourage that they make the thing stronger. Got a problem with that? Eat the end of my toothpick.

If you're getting killed by Radiant Sun Shards, you are either
a) standing in its line of fire.
b) running towards the bomber like a derp without dodging.

If you know how the bomb works, concentrating to avoid damage isn't that hard. You just gotta, y'know, concentrate a bit. (God forbid?) I've taken out bombers without taking a single pip of damage from their Radiant Sun Shards because I actually get out of their line of fire, and then run in on the offensive until they place another bomb. Just get out of the way, it's really not that difficult.

This post from Sheldontoaster is merely becuz Guanchi and I both got 18k and 19k damage earlier that morning.

Note: Guanchi and I were on different teams, but we burst sheldon's bubble that skolvers will automatically get the highest damage.

p.s. sorry that seiran's comment about autoaim confuses other ppl. I started this joke when someone was complaining about autoaim in one of our games, and seiran carried it on. The truth is autoaim has no effect on bombs, he was just kidding.

whyyy do people tell the world, RSS was always overpowered (definitely for a 4star weap) ; maybe not so much in PvP (I don't care) but ine PvE you don't even need another weapon. It literally does everything; it absolutely wrecks anything it should be week against - and it's good that way.
FYI RSS was originally released as a 5star weapon, and besides getting rid of a bug that cause the shards to go through trojan shields; I don't believe any stats changed when it was downgraded to 4*.

If you think it's OP in LD; go get one along with your polarises and flourishes and stop the jabber.

As a player whom has been a bomber since August and also dabbles in gunning, I do everything I can to avoid falling into the trap a lot of self-important people do on this forum. Just because some uses the most effective gear, just because someone uses the "Wolver clone" loadout there is absolutely no reason to have ill will toward them, they play the game how they want to much like how bombers and gunners do and frankly I get sick to my teeth of certain morons on this forum continually perpetuating this mentality that the bombers and gunners of the game need to rally together as a surpressed minority against the tyranny of those evil sword users. It's childish, and entirely delusional.

That being said for the time ever I'm going to say it; you sound like the stereotypical 'swordsman' who runs around with his generic loadout and the moment something outside of that limited array of gear appears to perform better than you, it's overpowered. Radiant Sun Shards is overpowered? Based on what precisely? The fact that out of all the weapons in the game it is one of the few that requires the player both to position themselves correctly and time it near flawlessly to maximize its damage potential? The fact that it's not a flourish line weapon that every single Lockdown player whom isn't arbitarily limiting themselves to x class of weapons uses? I know I for one cry myself to sleep at night after hours of Lockdowning against all those clone bombers, running around with their overpowered status bombs and shards, ya know arguably the easiest weapons in the game to avoid because of their fuse-time, radius indicator and the fact that unlike swords and guns can't attack instantly?

No I'm going to tell you what happened very simply. You went up against a bomber, who blatantly outplayed you probably because he's a better player than you; more likely because you're terrible and can't even understand the basic manner in which RSS projectiles spread and how to avoid them and now you're sat on the forums crying about it. The solution is not to nerf a perfectly balanced weapon used only by the class of players who have arguably been the single most underpowered and difficult 'class' to play since the very beginning of the game and have only recently begun to get the buffs they needed, no, the solution is for you to suck less.

If you were sat here trying to make an argument for RSS being too powerful in the Clockworks I may give you the time of day. I'd dispute the fact since it's also the bomb that requires the single most skill to use effectively beside arguably vortex, but it is crazy powerful. However in Lockdown? A game barely balanced in any concievable way where a good 80-90% of the players involved use the exact same loadout because it's flat out better than nearly everything else? No, RSS is no more unbalanced than everything else in Lockdown and frankly I for one am glad that with the recent updates we may actually see more variety in PvP.

I use the term "wolver clone" to refer only to the specific swordsmen who think swords are the best and feel superior for using swords. Clearly the OP, with his bombs-are-overpowered-and-should-be-nerfed attitude, fits perfectly into this category of swordsmen.

Just No.

It's a BOMB!

It boggles my mind how, in Spiral Knights, someone complains that a BOMB is overpowered... and it does less than half the damage of some of the swords! Spiral Knights has reversed the power/effectiveness of real world weapons. In real life you won't cower in fear if a lunatic with a sword bursts on your plane... at least not the same as if a lunatic with a gun, or bomb were there.

Bombs need to be way more powerful than they currently are, so shut up about bombs being too powerful. Personally, I think, 1 hit 1 kill bombs would be so much fun! (I don't play lockdown, nor do I care to play lockdown)

So what I'm seeing is whining about Skolver, GF, RSS and Polaris.
So if you know they beat you every time why not get maxed out ctr or asi weapons then max defenses on skolver and modules or pentaheart pendants and run them yourselves? I've played my bout of lockdown but I honestly don't think it's worth the trouble to deal with other people. Its a natural human nature to want to win and be pissed when you lose.
This is where the rage in the forum comes from and I'm surprised it hasn't been hidden yet.

Someone needed to say that. Badly.
Speaking as a shameless Dusker clone, I still have to say that, if there is anything that the bombers can use to stop dying so often in LD, then they should use it. That way, maybe they can actually have some fun in the game and not RAGEQUIT.

If anyone thinks bombs are overpowered, go ahead. Personally, I think OOO discriminates against early bombers by:
1. Not giving a Proto Bomb straight away at the Rescue Camp (OK, the Crash Site)
2. Not having an early, 0* bomber armour (after all, Cyclops is better than all but one gunner helmet, and the same for the Fencing Jacket).

@Steeltachi: Human Nature -> Nearly all problems with global economy, and the world in general. The world would be a better place without people.

+1 to 1-hit kill bombs. WATCH OUT, all you fools who don't care about stepping into a bomb radius because they're invincible with heart pendants so they're just going to step in this red circle and k- BOOM.

Epic Fail.